The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

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The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by WhatIfTheories » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:21 pm

Ok so the Youtube community has had me in some pretty heated debates about who is stronger then who after the finish of the Future Trunks Arc. I find some of the arguments kinda crazy so I figured
I would ask the Kanzenshuu community thoughts on a list I made. I got tired of the debate with some people trying to bend theories to suit them and claim it as facts as we all know any guess or theory is as
good as the next cause in the end we really don't know. Only Toriyama does then he forgets :)

Anyways I made an explanation of why each character is where they are and why in the list in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FznHYnrFqa0

1. Zeno Sama
2. Daishinkan (The Grand Priest)
3. Vados
4. Whis
5. Zeno Attendants
6. Beerus
7. Champa
8. Merged Zamasu
9. Vegito
10. Hit
11. Goku
12. Vegeta


Common arguments the Toriyama scale. Goku 6 Beerus 10 Whis 15.

Well I said long ago we have no idea what these numbers represent. So if we are going to use this scale treat it exponentially like an Earthquake scale. So to go from 6 to 7 you need 10 times more power then 10 times more again
Which means 6 to 8 is 100 times in Power. I like this theory and well once again we have no idea but to me it makes sense.

Whis said Goku and Vegeta could beat Beerus if they worked together.

Well when? Like someday when they complete their training with Whis after many powerups? If they learn to react without thinking and increase their speed? To me its not a fact that he meant you 2 work together right now
you beat Beerus cause i don't interpret it that way.

Well any ways for fun make your own list and post it below. Also tell me I'm crazy for (XYZ) but you have to explain why.

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by Nano » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:10 am

Top 5 are Zeno, Zeno Attendant 1, Zeno Attendant 2, (Unseen Character), Daishinkan.
I love Dragon Ball so much that I'm constantly complaining about how horrible Super is.

Black Goku / Future Trunks saga... was/is garbage.

Top 5 Favorite DBS Characters = Beerus, Whis, still waiting on the last 3 lol...

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by WhatIfTheories » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:43 am

Nano wrote:Top 5 are Zeno, Zeno Attendant 1, Zeno Attendant 2, (Unseen Character), Daishinkan.

Yea I could go with the Attendants being that high. Think there is some big mystery behind them. You might be right about and unseen character.

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:06 am

Vegetto should be above Merged Zamasu.

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Post by sintzu » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:20 am

Zeno
Vados
Whis
Champa
Beerus
Vegetto
Fused Zamasu
Hit
Goku
Vegeta
Zamasu
Black
Freeza
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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by Abra kadabra » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:17 am

1. Zeno
2. Daishinkan
3/4. Vados = Whis
5/6. Beerus = Champa
7. Vegito
8. Merged Zamasu
9. Goku black
10. Vegeta
11. F Trunks
12. Goku
13. Hit
14. Zamasu

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by dblack » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:09 am

WhatIfTheories wrote:
Nano wrote:Top 5 are Zeno, Zeno Attendant 1, Zeno Attendant 2, (Unseen Character), Daishinkan.

Yea I could go with the Attendants being that high. Think there is some big mystery behind them. You might be right about and unseen character.
Odd the attendants weren't with future Zeno, I guess the button only brings him. I wonder if they're freaking out that he's gone or oddly happy that he can't threaten to poof them away at any moment.

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by WhatIfTheories » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:20 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Vegetto should be above Merged Zamasu.
The only reason I did that is because in the video as stated that I believe the results would of been the same even if Vegito didn't defuse.
Could be wrong but lets say he vaporizes Merged Zamasu like Trunks did well then could Vegito destroy him spreading threw the Universe like Zeno did?
So not sure if anything would of changed and he might have had to call Zeno although never know.

Although this does want to make me bring back up this Immortality thing but I will save that for another thread.

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:22 am

WhatIfTheories wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Vegetto should be above Merged Zamasu.
The only reason I did that is because in the video as stated that I believe the results would of been the same even if Vegito didn't defuse.
Could be wrong but lets say he vaporizes Merged Zamasu like Trunks did well then could Vegito destroy him spreading threw the Universe like Zeno did?
So not sure if anything would of changed and he might have had to call Zeno although never know.

Although this does want to make me bring back up this Immortality thing but I will save that for another thread.
Universal Zamasu should be separate from Merged Zamasu.

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:50 am

Zeno
Daishinkan
Zeno's Attendants
Whis/Vados
Beerus
Chanpa
Vegito
Merged Zamasu
Goku
Black
Hit
Vegeta
Zamasu
Frieza

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by Legion » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:59 am

Youtube is a cancer.

Zeno
Grand Priest
Zeno's Attendants?
Whis/Vados
Beerus
Champa
Merged Zamasu/Vegetto
Hit?
Black Goku
Goku
Vegeta
Trunks

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by WhatIfTheories » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:13 am

Legion wrote:Youtube is a cancer.

Zeno
Grand Priest
Zeno's Attendants?
Whis/Vados
Beerus
Champa
Merged Zamasu/Vegetto
Hit?
Black Goku
Goku
Vegeta
Trunks

Well Youtube is where I spend the majority of my time so a double edge sword.

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by WhatIfTheories » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:13 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
WhatIfTheories wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Vegetto should be above Merged Zamasu.
The only reason I did that is because in the video as stated that I believe the results would of been the same even if Vegito didn't defuse.
Could be wrong but lets say he vaporizes Merged Zamasu like Trunks did well then could Vegito destroy him spreading threw the Universe like Zeno did?
So not sure if anything would of changed and he might have had to call Zeno although never know.

Although this does want to make me bring back up this Immortality thing but I will save that for another thread.
Universal Zamasu should be separate from Merged Zamasu.

Fair enough.

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by Doctor. » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:14 am

1 - Omni-King
2 - Grand Priest
3 - Attendant 1
4 - Attendant 2
5 - Vados
6 - Whis
7 - Vegetto Blue
8 - Merged Zamasu
9 - Kaioken Goku
10 - Beerus
11 - Champa
12 - Rosé Black
13 - Hit
14 - Vegeta Blue
15 - Goku Blue
16 - Super Trunks
17 - Golden Freeza
Somewhere - Zamasu/Super Perfect Cell

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Re: The Great Debate- Top Strongest in DBS

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:20 am

Hello,

There is already an appropriate thread for this kind of discussion. Thank you!
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