We will inevitably get a new form ...

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We will inevitably get a new form ...

Post by ChiefWamsutta » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:53 am

Alright, so we all seem to be noticing the trend ... DBSuper's merchandise and ratings are doing so well. The Future Trunks Arc garnered huge sucess, and it may be enough to keep DBSuper airing for awhile!

Inevitably we are going to get a new transformation for Goku and Vegeta, as is what happens with Dragon Ball.

So what form do think they will go with next? I personally hope it isn't another color like Super Saiyan Green, and I also hope it doesn't disregard the fact that SSBlue seems to be the peak of Saiyan power. They will have to come up with a damn good reason why the Saiyans will transform again.

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Post by Fishman » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:13 am

ChiefWamsutta wrote:Alright, so we all seem to be noticing the trend ... DBSuper's merchandise and ratings are doing so well. The Future Trunks Arc garnered huge sucess, and it may be enough to keep DBSuper airing for awhile!

Inevitably we are going to get a new transformation for Goku and Vegeta, as is what happens with Dragon Ball.

So what form do think they will go with next? I personally hope it isn't another color like Super Saiyan Green, and I also hope it doesn't disregard the fact that SSBlue seems to be the peak of Saiyan power. They will have to come up with a damn good reason why the Saiyans will transform again.
Super Saiyan was the peak of Saiyan Power in the Freeza and early Android arc

Grade 2 was the peak of Saiyan Power when Vegeta dominated Cell with it.

Super Saiyan 2 was the peak of Saiyan Power when Gohan turned the tables on Cell to the point where he could only gain the upper hand by becoming a Super Saiyan 2 himself.

Super Saiyan 3 was the peak of Saiyan Power when Goku used it in the Buu arc.

Considering Super Saiyan Blue came completely out of nowhere, I don't think they need a particularly good reason to introduce a new peak, they can just do it and people will either attempt to justify it on their behalf or they won't.
Super Saiyan Blue is not a creative color.
DBZ Movie 3 told a stronger and more believable "Evil Goku" story in 60 minutes than Dragon Ball Super has in 20 episodes. And it did it with better visuals and score.

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Re: We will inevitably get a new form ...

Post by Xeztin » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:23 am

ChiefWamsutta wrote:Alright, so we all seem to be noticing the trend ... DBSuper's merchandise and ratings are doing so well. The Future Trunks Arc garnered huge sucess, and it may be enough to keep DBSuper airing for awhile!

Inevitably we are going to get a new transformation for Goku and Vegeta, as is what happens with Dragon Ball.

So what form do think they will go with next? I personally hope it isn't another color like Super Saiyan Green, and I also hope it doesn't disregard the fact that SSBlue seems to be the peak of Saiyan power. They will have to come up with a damn good reason why the Saiyans will transform again.
I think Super would continue even if the FT arc flopped because it's the merchandise sells that keeps the show going, but again your right the ratings and success even help it out more so. BUT if you have noticed, there is a new form every arc. Saiyan (Kaioken) Freeza saga (Super Saiyan), Cell Saga (SSJ2), Boo Saga (SSJ3), BoG (SSG), RoF (SSJB), Champa saga (SSJB Kaioken), FT saga (Super Trunks, SSJ Rose). Next arc it'll probably be Goku so I'm banking on it being a recolored SSJ2.

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Re: We will inevitably get a new form ...

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:04 am

Sooo..
Ultimate rosé Gohan?
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Post by Abra kadabra » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:30 am

Gohan going super saiyan is redundant in his ultimate state. So if he were to get God ki, it would have to go super saiyan God (the super saiyan that isn't super saiyan) but they gave that to goku, made retaining it a miracle and made the possibility of vegeta having it before SSB ambiguous

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Re: We will inevitably get a new form ...

Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:43 am

The inevitable Super Saiyan White will come, I have no doubts about this.

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Post by Abra kadabra » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:33 am

SansrivaaL wrote:The inevitable Super Saiyan White will come, I have no doubts about this.
That was merged zamasu

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:50 am

Fishman wrote:
ChiefWamsutta wrote:Alright, so we all seem to be noticing the trend ... DBSuper's merchandise and ratings are doing so well. The Future Trunks Arc garnered huge sucess, and it may be enough to keep DBSuper airing for awhile!

Inevitably we are going to get a new transformation for Goku and Vegeta, as is what happens with Dragon Ball.

So what form do think they will go with next? I personally hope it isn't another color like Super Saiyan Green, and I also hope it doesn't disregard the fact that SSBlue seems to be the peak of Saiyan power. They will have to come up with a damn good reason why the Saiyans will transform again.
Super Saiyan was the peak of Saiyan Power in the Freeza and early Android arc

Grade 2 was the peak of Saiyan Power when Vegeta dominated Cell with it.

Super Saiyan 2 was the peak of Saiyan Power when Gohan turned the tables on Cell to the point where he could only gain the upper hand by becoming a Super Saiyan 2 himself.

Super Saiyan 3 was the peak of Saiyan Power when Goku used it in the Buu arc.

Considering Super Saiyan Blue came completely out of nowhere, I don't think they need a particularly good reason to introduce a new peak, they can just do it and people will either attempt to justify it on their behalf or they won't.
SS3 literally came out of nowhere in the Buu arc though even more so than SSGSS (which still makes more sense than SS3 anyway), so I don't see your point.

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Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:52 am

Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Rainbow Gokuu is what I think is going to be the next form.

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Post by MagmonKai » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:33 am

Abra kadabra wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:The inevitable Super Saiyan White will come, I have no doubts about this.
That was merged zamasu
No it wasn't. Merged Zamasu was a Kai not a saiyan. Even though Black was apart of him it doesn't make him SSJW. Besides Zamasu had white hair already. I think you're confused.

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Post by Abra kadabra » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:48 am

MagmonKai wrote:
Abra kadabra wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:The inevitable Super Saiyan White will come, I have no doubts about this.
That was merged zamasu
No it wasn't. Merged Zamasu was a Kai not a saiyan. Even though Black was apart of him it doesn't make him SSJW. Besides Zamasu had white hair already. I think you're confused.
No. AT said that he thought about white hair for a super saiyan form but decided against it because he wanted a villain with white hair. The villain with the white super saiyan hair was merged zamasu. I see no confusion friend

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Post by Grimlock » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:50 am

Abra kadabra wrote:No. AT said that he thought about white hair for a super saiyan form but decided against it because he wanted a villain with white hair. The villain with the white super saiyan hair was merged zamasu. I see no confusion friend
Yes you are. Akira Toriyama said he would give Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan white hair but the color would clash with the next villain (Freeza), then he decided blue. Then he said he would save the white color for the next time.

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Post by Abra kadabra » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:51 am

Grimlock wrote:
Abra kadabra wrote:No. AT said that he thought about white hair for a super saiyan form but decided against it because he wanted a villain with white hair. The villain with the white super saiyan hair was merged zamasu. I see no confusion friend
Yes you are. Akira Toriyama said he would give Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan white hair but the color would clash with the next villain (Freeza), then he decided blue. Then he said he would save the white color for the next time.
Do you have a source I can read? I may be mistaken

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Post by dbgtFO » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:57 am

Abra kadabra wrote:
Grimlock wrote:
Abra kadabra wrote:No. AT said that he thought about white hair for a super saiyan form but decided against it because he wanted a villain with white hair. The villain with the white super saiyan hair was merged zamasu. I see no confusion friend
Yes you are. Akira Toriyama said he would give Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan white hair but the color would clash with the next villain (Freeza), then he decided blue. Then he said he would save the white color for the next time.
Do you have a source I can read? I may be mistaken
It is on the site somewhere, but don't worry he is right.

Still I for one think it was no coincidence that the next villain we ended up did in fact end up with white Super Saiyan hair just as many of us assumed.
I think Toriyama was hinting at things to come without completely spilling the beans and so talked some bullshit about how white would color clash with the next villain, which it really would not if he really meant Freeza.

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Re: We will inevitably get a new form ...

Post by Mazingerdestro » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:17 pm

Yes we will get a new form. No there is no indication that we will get it soon. Yes there are signals and flags everywhere like "the power of rage" that created ssjssjgod

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Post by ChiefWamsutta » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:40 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:Yes we will get a new form. No there is no indication that we will get it soon. Yes there are signals and flags everywhere like "the power of rage" that created ssjssjgod
What do you mean by Super Saiyan Super Saiyan God?
Xeztin wrote:BUT if you have noticed, there is a new form every arc. Saiyan (Kaioken) Freeza saga (Super Saiyan), Cell Saga (SSJ2), Boo Saga (SSJ3), BoG (SSG), RoF (SSJB), Champa saga (SSJB Kaioken), FT saga (Super Trunks, SSJ Rose). Next arc it'll probably be Goku so I'm banking on it being a recolored SSJ2.
True, but those aren't new forms that become the new standard. SS2 became the new standard and SSB became the new standard.

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Post by Mazingerdestro » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:46 pm

ChiefWamsutta wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote:Yes we will get a new form. No there is no indication that we will get it soon. Yes there are signals and flags everywhere like "the power of rage" that created ssjssjgod
What do you mean by Super Saiyan Super Saiyan God?
Xeztin wrote:BUT if you have noticed, there is a new form every arc. Saiyan (Kaioken) Freeza saga (Super Saiyan), Cell Saga (SSJ2), Boo Saga (SSJ3), BoG (SSG), RoF (SSJB), Champa saga (SSJB Kaioken), FT saga (Super Trunks, SSJ Rose). Next arc it'll probably be Goku so I'm banking on it being a recolored SSJ2.
True, but those aren't new forms that become the new standard. SS2 became the new standard and SSB became the new standard.
Trunks' new form. I call it ssjssjgod. Basically super saiyan+power of rage+balance from the god ki without reducing speed=ssjssjgod

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Post by MaxZ » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:51 pm

SSJB2 is a possibility, I think

I just hope they do something distinct with it other then just giving it the SSJ2 hair

do something neat with the aura, add some big crackles of lightning, maybe intensify the yellow bit around the blue part of the aura

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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:24 pm

MaxZ wrote:SSJB2 is a possibility, I think

I just hope they do something distinct with it other then just giving it the SSJ2 hair

do something neat with the aura, add some big crackles of lightning, maybe intensify the yellow bit around the blue part of the aura
Or change the shape of their heads..
We got all types of changes.. it's time for super Saiyan Pentagon to shine..
Let's give shapes some love :lol:
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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:25 pm

Super Saiyan Blue 2, Super Saiyan Blue 3, Godly Blue Oozaru, Super Saiyan Fruit Loops, Super Saiyan Taste The Rainbow, Super Saiyan Frosties...

The sky is the limit.

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