"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[AzuraRacon]

Also, it just hit me that Funimation's announcement mentions that their dub will be for Canada too
So it looks like no more chance for an Ocean dub? If there was any to begin with that is

[Lunatic Fringe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCwuMG- ... e=youtu.be

Another new clip from Funimation with Goku on Kaio's (King Kai's) planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynEm0dsfzjA

Here's the original sub clip if anyone wants to compare...

...or meticulously nitpick.

What's there to nitpick? I think the dub nailed it.

If not the voices, then dialogue differences. There are a few unique additions to the Funi script that don't screw up the integrity of the scene but will still cause a certain brand of zealous, hardcore purists to dock points.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Also, it just hit me that Funimation's announcement mentions that their dub will be for Canada too
So it looks like no more chance for an Ocean dub? If there was any to begin with that is

TOEI hasn't allowed companies that dubbed Kai to move on to Super unless they finished all of Kai first.

Ocean have only dubbed the Saiyan-Cell part of Kai so they more than likely weren't permitted to do Super.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Well, among the people who don't like his English Kaio voice, the talking point that I hear brought up most commonly is that they think the voice sounds too silly for the character's more serious moments. I can understand why they'd think that, but I've always thought of Kaio's English voice in a Yoda sort of way...it sounds silly, but silly voices don't necessarily ruin the emotional weight of serious scenes.

[Dbzfan94]

If not the voices, then dialogue differences. There are a few unique additions to the Funi script that don't screw up the integrity of the scene but will still cause a certain brand of zealous, hardcore purists to dock points.

Some small unique additions are necessary to fill the mouth flaps. It's extremely difficult to be word-for-word in the literal sense.

[AzuraRacon]

Well, among the people who don't like his English Kaio voice, the talking point that I hear brought up most commonly is that they think the voice sounds too silly for the character's more serious moments. I can understand why they'd think that, but I've always thought of Kaio's English voice in a Yoda sort of way...it sounds silly, but silly voices don't necessarily ruin the emotional weight of serious scenes.

Yeah, that voice has never really killed serious moments for me
Actually hearing a voice like that get serious for even a second has always added to it for me

I'll never forget hearing that voice say "Piccolo draws breath no more" for the first time

[huzaifa_ahmed]

Still gutted that Laura Bailey essentially had to bow out as Kid Trunks due to being too busy and to prevent her from straining her voice. Becoming a highly demanded VA can be very rough. I'm happy that Meredith McCoy is back as 18. I missed her.

I'm not sure about that. Money can change anyone's mind, & my gut assumption is that, while she'd like to come back, she's definitely got big fish to fry & whatever FUNimation was offering, wasn't as big. Considering there are 68 episodes, it just wasnt worth it, & FUNi's budget would likely to have be doubled if not tripled. The thing is: Dragon Ball as a franchise makes up nearly half of FUNimation's profits. It's an incredible anomaly within anime in general, & it's interesting that it still wasn't big enough for FUNimation.

Woo, I can't believe it. I was kind of not looking forward to going through the whole series again after watching it subbed, but these two simple clips have made me so pumped for it! Just hearing everyone in their old roles but doing something actually new instead of retreading Frieza, Bell, and Buu for the umpteenth time--I love it.

I'm disappointed Laura Bailey won't be coming back but it's understandable, both due to strain and being in California instead of Texas. Alexis Tipton has already been half of Gotenks before right? She'll be a fine Trunks I'm sure.

She was in Gears of War 4 and Halo 5, & those are certainly not devoid of screaming in any way, shape or form, I'm presuming. Several out-of-state actors, like Matthew Mercer & Patrick Seitz, have recorded very quickly at FUNi for long shows they have major parts in. Guys, let's call a spade a spade & point out the obvious problem here. She was willing to return for XV2 only in part, & only as a favor to Sabat & friends. Considering this is a far bigger piece as a whole new show..again, FUNi's budget wasnt made to include the massive talent that Laura has gotten to be, & it's necessary that we acknowledge that. Voice actors are human being, & dub actors...are voice actors, too. The fact that a whole industry doesnt respect that, well, the fanbase isnt totally devoid of responsibility. I mean where would Kanzenshuu be if we simply relied on FUNimation's "official" info back in the day?

We may not change anything on a business level, but sheer memetic spread of information definitely flows back to companies in charge. Remember "You think you know GT?" & the fact that "Mystic Gohan" wasn't a thing prior to being a fan term?

[huzaifa_ahmed]

Also, it just hit me that Funimation's announcement mentions that their dub will be for Canada too
So it looks like no more chance for an Ocean dub? If there was any to begin with that is

TOEI hasn't allowed companies that dubbed Kai to move on to Super unless they finished all of Kai first.

Ocean have only dubbed the Saiyan-Cell part of Kai so they more than likely weren't permitted to do Super.

Well (unfortunately), Dragon Ball at all, really, has never been dubbed in LA. Yet Bang Zoom is doing that dub.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Also, it just hit me that Funimation's announcement mentions that their dub will be for Canada too
So it looks like no more chance for an Ocean dub? If there was any to begin with that is

TOEI hasn't allowed companies that dubbed Kai to move on to Super unless they finished all of Kai first.

Ocean have only dubbed the Saiyan-Cell part of Kai so they more than likely weren't permitted to do Super.

Well (unfortunately), Dragon Ball at all, really, has never been dubbed in LA. Yet Bang Zoom is doing that dub.

Harmony Gold dubbed Dragon Ball in LA way back when.

But hence I said the companies that dubbed Kai have been required to finish it before starting Super. Ocean hasn't finished Kai (Brian Drummond confirmed this) hence why they weren't given the licence for Super. Bang Zoom didn't dub Kai to begin with so there was no obligation to finish what they never started.

[AzuraRacon]

TOEI hasn't allowed companies that dubbed Kai to move on to Super unless they finished all of Kai first.

Ocean have only dubbed the Saiyan-Cell part of Kai so they more than likely weren't permitted to do Super.

Well (unfortunately), Dragon Ball at all, really, has never been dubbed in LA. Yet Bang Zoom is doing that dub.

Harmony Gold dubbed Dragon Ball in LA way back when.

But hence I said the companies that dubbed Kai have been required to finish it before starting Super. Ocean hasn't finished Kai (Brian Drummond confirmed this) hence why they weren't given the licence for Super. Bang Zoom didn't dub Kai to begin with so there was no obligation to finish what they never started.

Where did this thing about companies that started Kai having to finish it before Super come from anyhow?
I can never seem to find a source for that information

[Bansho64]

Well, even though I think that Kaioh voice is still horrible, Sean sounds at the top of his game with his Goku. Consider me interested
Edit: Wrong emoji at first.

[Majin Pocus]

She was in Gears of War 4 and Halo 5, & those are certainly not devoid of screaming in any way, shape or form, I'm presuming. Several out-of-state actors, like Matthew Mercer & Patrick Seitz, have recorded very quickly at FUNi for long shows they have major parts in. Guys, let's call a spade a spade & point out the obvious problem here. She was willing to return for XV2 only in part, & only as a favor to Sabat & friends. Considering this is a far bigger piece as a whole new show..again, FUNi's budget wasnt made to include the massive talent that Laura has gotten to be, & it's necessary that we acknowledge that. Voice actors are human being, & dub actors...are voice actors, too. The fact that a whole industry doesnt respect that, well, the fanbase isnt totally devoid of responsibility. I mean where would Kanzenshuu be if we simply relied on FUNimation's "official" info back in the day? ?

Actually, Sabat said strain is one of the reasons she's not coming back. That and busy.

https://twitter.com/VoiceOfVegeta/statu ... 1850804226

[TheWalkingCash]

Kind of disappointed about Laura Bailey. Hopefully Alexis Tipton's Trunks sounds similar.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Actually, Sabat said strain is one of the reasons she's not coming back. That and busy.

https://twitter.com/VoiceOfVegeta/statu ... 1850804226

Still sad to see it happen, but it's definitely understandable, and I'm glad Sabat's sticking up for her. It's really sweet to see them stick together in cases like this.

That said though, question - is Tipton full on Trunks in Xenoverse 2, or is she still only filling in for the Gotenks half? Cuz if that's Tipton as Trunks, it's one heck of a soundalike.

[AzuraRacon]

Kind of disappointed about Laura Bailey. Hopefully Alexis Tipton's Trunks sounds similar.

I'd rather they try to do their own thing with the character honestly

We've already had a period of Dragon Ball's history where Actors tried to impersonate their predecessors and it's still some of the most awkward and hard to listen to acting in the series IMO

[Lunatic Fringe]

Kind of disappointed about Laura Bailey. Hopefully Alexis Tipton's Trunks sounds similar.

I'd rather they try to do their own thing with the character honestly

We've already had a period of Dragon Ball's history where Actors tried to impersonate their predecessors and it's still some of the most awkward and hard to listen to acting in the series IMO

Agreed. Dedication to doing a character justice with a unique portrayal should supersede doing an imitation of someone's unique take, 100% of the time.

[AzuraRacon]

Huh
Funi just got asked to remove the Clip of Mr. Satan

It's either because A. they decided they didn't want two dubs having the same promotional clip shown off or, B., and this is a hopeful stretch, they used the Name Mr. Satan in that clip, which would conflict with the Edited dub should it end up being used

At least those are the only two reasons I can think of

[huzaifa_ahmed]

TOEI hasn't allowed companies that dubbed Kai to move on to Super unless they finished all of Kai first.

Ocean have only dubbed the Saiyan-Cell part of Kai so they more than likely weren't permitted to do Super.

Well (unfortunately), Dragon Ball at all, really, has never been dubbed in LA. Yet Bang Zoom is doing that dub.

Harmony Gold dubbed Dragon Ball in LA way back when.

But hence I said the companies that dubbed Kai have been required to finish it before starting Super. Ocean hasn't finished Kai (Brian Drummond confirmed this) hence why they weren't given the licence for Super. Bang Zoom didn't dub Kai to begin with so there was no obligation to finish what they never started.

Key word: "really". While we're at it, Final Bout's English dub was also recorded in LA, at Animaze, essentially the pre-Bang Zoom, during the anime boom. We're finally getting a dub with the (heavily limited application, but still) biggest voice-over talent pool on the planet, just hope they base more off just the JP version & less do a replacement version of the FUNi dub. As for Ocean Kai, the project financially could not continue at all. Super was left out of consideration from a broadcast standpoint, not licensing-wise.

Actually, Sabat said strain is one of the reasons she's not coming back. That and busy.

https://twitter.com/VoiceOfVegeta/statu ... 1850804226

I've seen the tweet. My point is that every professional comes back when decent money is involved. Laura is a VA. She's in a few US cartoons that frankly don't make as much as DBZ does, & I'm sure FUNi could afford it if they thought it was worth cutting into profits. Apparently she's not that big of a character, & they have a good replacement. Clearly if she's screaming for hours at a time in Gears or Halo, she can do a young kid voice for a few hours. I explained the whole thing in my post.

Kind of disappointed about Laura Bailey. Hopefully Alexis Tipton's Trunks sounds similar.

I'd rather they try to do their own thing with the character honestly

We've already had a period of Dragon Ball's history where Actors tried to impersonate their predecessors and it's still some of the most awkward and hard to listen to acting in the series IMO

Agreed. Dedication to doing a character justice with a unique portrayal should supersede doing an imitation of someone's unique take, 100% of the time.

Well, Alexis was specifically chosen because she's the default Laura Bailey replacement, so she'll start off by (hopefully studying the performance's qualities) doing an impression of Laura's voice, & then, because, y'know, she's not actually Laura, she'll perform it in a way that suits her voice & decisions as a human being. I think Matthew Mercer described his Troy Baker replacements that way. I also would like the idea of Trunks' adult VA having done the child Trunks, as well.

As for comparisons to the Ocean fall-out era? That's not fair. Alexis, while admittedly she feels sort of cheap in this scenario, is a genuinely talented VA with actual training, unlike the era where Fukunaga literally picked folks off the street to replace the best VAs in Canada (as they'd really bit off more than they could chew & have never gone back to Ocean since, aside some reprisals).

[TheWalkingCash]

Well (unfortunately), Dragon Ball at all, really, has never been dubbed in LA. Yet Bang Zoom is doing that dub.

Harmony Gold dubbed Dragon Ball in LA way back when.

But hence I said the companies that dubbed Kai have been required to finish it before starting Super. Ocean hasn't finished Kai (Brian Drummond confirmed this) hence why they weren't given the licence for Super. Bang Zoom didn't dub Kai to begin with so there was no obligation to finish what they never started.

Key word: "really". While we're at it, Final Bout's English dub was also recorded in LA, at Animaze, essentially the pre-Bang Zoom, during the anime boom. We're finally getting a dub with the (heavily limited application, but still) biggest voice-over talent pool on the planet, just hope they base more off just the JP version & less do a replacement version of the FUNi dub. As for Ocean Kai, the project financially could not continue at all. Super was left out of consideration from a broadcast standpoint, not licensing-wise.

Actually, Sabat said strain is one of the reasons she's not coming back. That and busy.

https://twitter.com/VoiceOfVegeta/statu ... 1850804226

I've seen the tweet. My point is that every professional comes back when decent money is involved. Laura is a VA. She's in a few US cartoons that frankly don't make as much as DBZ does, & I'm sure FUNi could afford it if they thought it was worth cutting into profits. Apparently she's not that big of a character, & they have a good replacement. Clearly if she's screaming for hours at a time in Gears or Halo, she can do a young kid voice for a few hours. I explained the whole thing in my post.

I'd rather they try to do their own thing with the character honestly

We've already had a period of Dragon Ball's history where Actors tried to impersonate their predecessors and it's still some of the most awkward and hard to listen to acting in the series IMO

Agreed. Dedication to doing a character justice with a unique portrayal should supersede doing an imitation of someone's unique take, 100% of the time.

Well, Alexis was specifically chosen because she's the default Laura Bailey replacement, so she'll start off by (hopefully studying the performance's qualities) doing an impression of Laura's voice, & then, because, y'know, she's not actually Laura, she'll perform it in a way that suits her voice & decisions as a human being. I think Matthew Mercer described his Troy Baker replacements that way. I also would like the idea of Trunks' adult VA having done the child Trunks, as well.

As for comparisons to the Ocean fall-out era? That's not fair. Alexis, while admittedly she feels sort of cheap in this scenario, is a genuinely talented VA with actual training, unlike the era where Fukunaga literally picked folks off the street to replace the best VAs in Canada (as they'd really bit off more than they could chew & have never gone back to Ocean since, aside some reprisals).

If Eric Vale had a nice childlike voice, I'd be all for it.

[huzaifa_ahmed]

If Eric Vale had a nice childlike voice, I'd be all for it.

Takeshi Kusao has in fact quite a similar voice to Eric Vale, coincidentally. It's not like he couldnt manage it, they're just trying to maintain consistency.