"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:53 pm

I have a bad, bad feeling the dub will be airing weekly. If that is indeed the case, it'll be roughly a year (factoring in potential breaks) until the Zamasu Arc, which is what most people are really looking forward to. To be honest, I wish it were possible to have each episode air dubbed a week or two after the Japanese airdate.
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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:58 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:I have a bad, bad feeling the dub will be airing weekly. If that is indeed the case, it'll be roughly a year (factoring in potential breaks) until the Zamasu Arc, which is what most people are really looking forward to. To be honest, I wish it were possible to have each episode air dubbed a week or two after the Japanese airdate.
It shouldn't matter to anyone who hasn't seen the subs since they'll still probably be keeping up with the show that way and for anyone who either found out that Dragon Ball Super existed today or knew about it but wanted to wait out for the dub, they'll most likely follow along with the movie recap arcs since they won't have any idea if it's a waste of time for them or not.

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Post by Theophrastus » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:28 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:To be honest, I wish it were possible to have each episode air dubbed a week or two after the Japanese airdate.
Funimation has been making progress on that front (albeit streaming VODs on their website rather than a live broadcast). Even for some stuff where major cast members are located in California (last 12 episodes of Fairy Tail, Attack on Titan Junior High, Tales of Zestiria the X, Danganronpa 3), they've been able to get a dub of the TV broadcast version out within 2-4 weeks of Japanese air date.

...Of course, those tend to all be relatively short shows (12 episodes each, except Danganronpa 3 which is technically 24). Something long-running like Super with no clear stopping point in sight is a different beast entirely and probably wouldn't be feasible right now.

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Post by Makai » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:48 pm

Disappointed Kyle Herbert isn't narrating, was hoping he would stay in that role from BOG.

I really hope when we get to the Zamasu arc, Future Mai will be voiced by her same VA from original Dragon Ball. Just to remind me that it's the same character, since they changed her character so much.

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Post by jelleline89 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:07 pm

I noticed something while re-watching my dub comparison (https://youtu.be/IDmJaVpALM0). Buu refers to himself as "I'm" in the Bang Zoom dub while he says "Buu" in the FUNimation dub. I wonder if Bang Zoom overlooked that detail or they purposely wanted to change Buu's dialect.

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Post by TheWalkingCash » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:12 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:I have a bad, bad feeling the dub will be airing weekly. If that is indeed the case, it'll be roughly a year (factoring in potential breaks) until the Zamasu Arc, which is what most people are really looking forward to. To be honest, I wish it were possible to have each episode air dubbed a week or two after the Japanese airdate.
I was thinking they could air 2 episodes a week on Toonami. But they probably won't do it lol.

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Post by AzuraRacon » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:14 pm

TheWalkingCash wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:I have a bad, bad feeling the dub will be airing weekly. If that is indeed the case, it'll be roughly a year (factoring in potential breaks) until the Zamasu Arc, which is what most people are really looking forward to. To be honest, I wish it were possible to have each episode air dubbed a week or two after the Japanese airdate.
I was thinking they could air 2 episodes a week on Toonami. But they probably won't do it lol.
I'm just desperately hoping Toonami doesn't end up with it honestly

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Post by TheWalkingCash » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:14 pm

AzuraRacon wrote:
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Anime Kitten wrote:I have a bad, bad feeling the dub will be airing weekly. If that is indeed the case, it'll be roughly a year (factoring in potential breaks) until the Zamasu Arc, which is what most people are really looking forward to. To be honest, I wish it were possible to have each episode air dubbed a week or two after the Japanese airdate.
I was thinking they could air 2 episodes a week on Toonami. But they probably won't do it lol.
I'm just desperately hoping Toonami doesn't end up with it honestly
Would you rather have it on Nick Toons?

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Post by AzuraRacon » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:26 pm

TheWalkingCash wrote:
AzuraRacon wrote:
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I was thinking they could air 2 episodes a week on Toonami. But they probably won't do it lol.
I'm just desperately hoping Toonami doesn't end up with it honestly
Would you rather have it on Nick Toons?
Honestly Yes
Or wherever else it could end up

I will gladly take it somewhere where it can air faster and more often, knowing full well this time around that there will be a completely uncut vocal track that I can just buy later

Plus, Toonami not getting it would leave them free to finally premier the Buu arc of Kai once Cell finishes up, and I'd gladly take two shows with one slightly edited (and even then only until the DVD and Blurays start releasing) than only one

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:12 am

My thought is, the more accessible the show is, the better. I'm thinking, of course, from the perspective of keeping the franchise--and anime in general--healthy, and one of the best ways to do that is to make sure there's a generation of new fans. So, from that perspective, the best place on TV for it would be on a cable channel that airs in the after-school time slot. Sure it would have to be edited, but that doesn't bother me in an era where we have uncut home video releases. The Nicktoons broadcast of Kai was proof that you can edit a show and still maintain its artistic integrity.
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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Post by rs_chaosmaster » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:37 am

I doubt nicktoons nickelodeon is a lot more likely though just have to wait and see but if toonami it will be a long time before the black arc elsewhere maybe not as long. I do feel Dragon Balls rightful home is Toonami but it makes sense to have toonami continue with Kai then Super after. Unless they decide to do Dragon ball Power Hour :O that would be awesome Kai followed by Super :D
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Post by precita » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:03 am

Was the music in those clips the same as Japanese's Super music? So no dub soundtrack, right?

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Post by TheBlackPaladin » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:21 am

precita wrote:Was the music in those clips the same as Japanese's Super music? So no dub soundtrack, right?
That's correct. FUNimation has been done with dub soundtracks (or, at least, done with making new ones) for over a decade now. Dub soundtracks for other shows still exist here and there, but the growing consensus is that it's a dated practice.
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."

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Post by ParkerAL » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:51 am

Laura Bailey will be missed, but otherwise that's a strong cast. I do sort of wish Kaio and Majin Boo had been recast, though

The whole point of Kaio's character is that he's a prestigious person with a dignified voice, who just happens to say dumb things and act silly. That's the joke. Instead, in Funimation's dubs we get a goofy character who acts goofy and sounds goofy - lazy characterization compared to the original performance.

For our favorite pink glob of chewing gum, the voice used sounds too gimmicky, plain and simple. But I don't mind either voice too much, and I understand the need to maintain consistently and not piss off DBZ dub fans. I just feel there are better alternatives in an ideal world.
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Post by precita » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:54 am

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For our favorite pink glob of chewing gum, the voice used sounds too gimmicky, plain and simple. But I don't mind either voice too much, and I understand the need to maintain consistently and not piss off DBZ dub fans. I just feel there are better alternatives in an ideal world.
Fat Buu barely gets any screentime in Super, I doubt it matters. There's like what...maybe 5 episodes at the most he says anything in? The one he fights Beerus, then one of the fillers, then when Goku initially asks him to fight in the tournament?

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:32 am

TheBlackPaladin wrote:My thought is, the more accessible the show is, the better. I'm thinking, of course, from the perspective of keeping the franchise--and anime in general--healthy, and one of the best ways to do that is to make sure there's a generation of new fans. So, from that perspective, the best place on TV for it would be on a cable channel that airs in the after-school time slot. Sure it would have to be edited, but that doesn't bother me in an era where we have uncut home video releases. The Nicktoons broadcast of Kai was proof that you can edit a show and still maintain its artistic integrity.
If censorship laws changed then it would not matter. It is that what hurts anime outside of Japan.

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:07 am

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I know that's the strategy for Toei Europe, but it is clear to see where Toei as a company see Super, and the long term goal for it.
Now there's also a Bandai toyline thrown into the mix, Super is intended as a show primarily targeted at a younger demographic.
In order for Dragon Ball to survive long term, it needs to be given the opportunity to grow new, younger fans to take it into the next generation.
How are Bandai going to sell these toys if the show starts at midnight? I'm not saying it won't end up on Toonami, but I am saying it won't be Toei's first choice.
AzuraRacon wrote: Where did this thing about companies that started Kai having to finish it before Super come from anyhow?
I can never seem to find a source for that information
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Mario Castaneda (Mexican VA for Goku) stated that Toei insisted they finish dubbing Kai (this included mixing and editing the episodes) before they allowed them to start Super.
Whilst it isn't from Toei directly, all other regions who aired/dubbed the original 1-98 of Kai, and currently hold the rights to Super, all released Buu Kai.
Also, the fact Funimation finished Kai earlier this year shows they were most likely asked to finish up before they were given the rights.

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Post by sangofe » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:11 am

huzaifa_ahmed wrote:
TheWalkingCash wrote:
huzaifa_ahmed wrote:
Takeshi Kusao has in fact quite a similar voice to Eric Vale, coincidentally. It's not like he couldnt manage it, they're just trying to maintain consistency.
How is it similar? They don't sound alike to me.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:06 am

Even if it airs weekly we gonna get Blu rays anyway which will cover 12-13 eps every couple of months. The fact Sabat has clips ready to go shows that I think we'll get our first listings soon.

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Post by Gafonso6 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:00 am

If FUNi's dub follows the path my country's dub took it's gonna take a long time until you get to original material. In Portugal the dub started airing on September 24th and it's just now starting the RoF arc with 2 episodes airing every week, the difference is that here we never got the BoG and RoF movies so it's not that big of a deal, for you if they take this route you'll need to wait a really long time.
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