Who had more potential, Broly or Gohan?

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Who had more potential, Broly or Gohan?

Post by RedShift » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:40 am

As a concept Broly is a pretty cool idea... It's just too bad that the idea was wasted on a psychotic and brain-dead character who screams Kakarot over & over. Regardless of your opinion on the character, I've always viewed Broly as the Saiyan counterpart to Freeza. He was born freakishly powerful simply due to the genetic lottery... Or something.

Now, we don't know if Broly ever did any training. The movies never even hint at the concept (like all of DBZ's villains). But that got me thinking, does Broly have more raw potential than Gohan? If Broly actually trained with the same intensity & dedication as Goku or Vegeta have for all these years, how powerful do you think he could become? Would LSSj3 (if you want to call it that) be substantially more powerful than Ultimate Gohan, Buutenks, Buuhaan, or would he even make for an entertaining fight for Vegito back in the Z days?

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Post by nickzambuto » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:51 am

Considering the curbstomp Gohan dealt Super/Evil Boo, if the gap between LSSJ3 Broli and SSJ3 Goku is the same as the gap between them at just regular LSSJ and SSJ, I can see a LSSJ3 Broli being Gohan's rival.

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Post by Captain Strawberry » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:57 am

Gohan has the potential to be the strongest.
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Post by dragon boss z » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:49 pm

Logically Broly since he was born with a higher power level.

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Post by Cetra » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:28 pm

I bet if Broly trains for 4 months he is Zenou level. Hell, he might even rival Sorbet's ring. Broly calls himself Goldy in his new Golden Form.
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Post by Kishido » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:56 pm

Broly... Guy is a beast. Given him the Heroes transformations and he is just insane.

Not even talking about a Legendary Super Saiyan Blue

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Post by TheMikado » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:48 pm

RedShift wrote:As a concept Broly is a pretty cool idea... It's just too bad that the idea was wasted on a psychotic and brain-dead character who screams Kakarot over & over. Regardless of your opinion on the character, I've always viewed Broly as the Saiyan counterpart to Freeza. He was born freakishly powerful simply due to the genetic lottery... Or something.

Now, we don't know if Broly ever did any training. The movies never even hint at the concept (like all of DBZ's villains). But that got me thinking, does Broly have more raw potential than Gohan? If Broly actually trained with the same intensity & dedication as Goku or Vegeta have for all these years, how powerful do you think he could become? Would LSSj3 (if you want to call it that) be substantially more powerful than Ultimate Gohan, Buutenks, Buuhaan, or would he even make for an entertaining fight for Vegito back in the Z days?
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Post by Perfectionist-Cell » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:50 pm

Broly hands down. Gohan shouldn't even have potential to begin with.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:55 pm

Broly, hands down. As an infant he was among the strongest of the Saiyans, so with proper training, it's actually kind of freighting to think how strong he would become. Gohan show great hidden right out the bat but it was nothing compared to what Broly displayed.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:24 pm

Well as it stands, Broly is dead and imprisoned like Frieza was. So his potential is currently sitting at zero along with Cell and all the other dead villains as they cannot train and they don't have an army of minions wanting them back. So Broly is now and until further notice stuck at weaker then fate Buu while Gohan has surpassed Super Buu and has room to grow.

But lets be real here...then answer is Trunks.

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Re: Who had more potential, Broly or Gohan?

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:50 pm

Broly of course, he was born with a PL of 10,000 or was that a Dub thing? He still destroyed the Z-fighters and I'm pretty sure he never trained in his life.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:54 pm

Cetra wrote:I bet if Broly trains for 4 months he is Zenou level. Hell, he might even rival Sorbet's ring. Broly calls himself Goldy in his new Golden Form.
Shit if he trains for like...a week that could happen...maybe...or a month tops....just doing push ups, sit ups, and drinking plenty of juice.

But yeah Broly...cause Gohan as the writers see it, is basically useless without dadda holding his hand. While Broly is basically the most overwanked character of all...so no contest.
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Post by kinisking » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:11 am

Perfectionist-Cell wrote:Broly hands down. Gohan shouldn't even have potential to begin with.
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Re: Who had more potential, Broly or Gohan?

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:51 am

Gohan has the most potential..
Broly even though born with a higher power level and bottomless reserves himself, he is just a maniac..

When you take his personality into account, him training to achieve higher power or even maintaining steady flow of energy is thrown out of the window.. he just powers up madly and has to release energy all the time to not blow the hell up..
Gohan in the other hand has the personality which can control what he got very well..

If just the bodies are compared, broly would best Gohan.. no competition, broly kicks whis around if he trained as much as goku and Vegeta..
If the characters themselves are compared, yeah Gohan kicks brolys ass in terms of potential to grow AND to Handel that growth
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Re: Who had more potential, Broly or Gohan?

Post by RedShift » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:36 am

Ki Breaker wrote:Gohan has the most potential..
Broly even though born with a higher power level and bottomless reserves himself, he is just a maniac..

When you take his personality into account, him training to achieve higher power or even maintaining steady flow of energy is thrown out of the window.. he just powers up madly and has to release energy all the time to not blow the hell up..
Gohan in the other hand has the personality which can control what he got very well..

If just the bodies are compared, broly would best Gohan.. no competition, broly kicks whis around if he trained as much as goku and Vegeta..
If the characters themselves are compared, yeah Gohan kicks brolys ass in terms of potential to grow AND to Handel that growth
You're trying to argue that Gohan's character makes him physically superior (even potentially) to Broly. The only problem there is that Dragonball Z shows that is clearly not the case.

(I was speaking more in terms of if they both actually trained like Goku & Vegeta do, which is out of character for either of them)

Were it not for Elder Kai's ritual, Gohan would have stayed irrelevant in the Buu arc. He doesn't train unless his daddy is holding his hand or there is some immediate threat he needs to prepare for. DBZ showed this and Super just made it worse. As far as we know, Broly never trained a day in his life, yet he walks through the Cell-Games era cast without difficulty. From what I can tell, Gohan doesn't even hold a candle to that kind of potential power. With ten years of training and Super Saiyan 3, I don't think even Buuhan could stop Broly if it comes down to "what-if" scenarios.

It's a point is moot anyway, Broly is a dead non-cannon character in Gohan is too busy rocking that tracksuit. It's just interesting to ponder what Broly could have achieved if he was mentally stable and had the dedication that Goku & Vegeta do.

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Re: Who had more potential, Broly or Gohan?

Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:44 am

I'd say Gohan. He's a main character and the son of our protagonist. He's had plenty of time to develop into a well-rounded and interesting character. Broli is just a bland muscle-head from the movies that was written to basically be an advertisement for the show, with little regard to storytelling or or the show's continuity. Oh wait, did you mean their strength?

Probably Broli. Gohan has a lot of dormant potential, but he actually has to train to draw it out. Given the way he behaves, it is unlikely that Broli did much in the way of training, and that his power grew to its considerable heights just through growing up. If he had been able to train and grow as a fighter, he could've very well easily been one of the most powerful forces in the universe. Of course, it's unlikely that he'd be able to do any of that, given that he's nuttier than squirrel poo.
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Re: Who had more potential, Broly or Gohan?

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:46 am

RedShift wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Gohan has the most potential..
Broly even though born with a higher power level and bottomless reserves himself, he is just a maniac..

When you take his personality into account, him training to achieve higher power or even maintaining steady flow of energy is thrown out of the window.. he just powers up madly and has to release energy all the time to not blow the hell up..
Gohan in the other hand has the personality which can control what he got very well..

If just the bodies are compared, broly would best Gohan.. no competition, broly kicks whis around if he trained as much as goku and Vegeta..
If the characters themselves are compared, yeah Gohan kicks brolys ass in terms of potential to grow AND to Handel that growth
You're trying to argue that Gohan's character makes him physically superior (even potentially) to Broly. The only problem there is that Dragonball Z shows that is clearly not the case.

(I was speaking more in terms of if they both actually trained like Goku & Vegeta do, which is out of character for either of them)

Were it not for Elder Kai's ritual, Gohan would have stayed irrelevant in the Buu arc. He doesn't train unless his daddy is holding his hand or there is some immediate threat he needs to prepare for. DBZ showed this and Super just made it worse. As far as we know, Broly never trained a day in his life, yet he walks through the Cell-Games era cast without difficulty. From what I can tell, Gohan doesn't even hold a candle to that kind of potential power. With ten years of training and Super Saiyan 3, I don't think even Buuhan could stop Broly if it comes down to "what-if" scenarios.

It's a point is moot anyway, Broly is a dead non-cannon character in Gohan is too busy rocking that tracksuit. It's just interesting to ponder what Broly could have achieved if he was mentally stable and had the dedication that Goku & Vegeta do.
You didn't read my post well enough..
The bolded part clearly shows I agree broly is physically far superior..
It still dosen't change the fact he is insane.. and yes he trained far more than a day in his life.. his father trained him, he just didn't care after a while, he couldn't take that much power, he is insane..
You can be 100 times weaker than a person who has no arms, yet you will be able to open a door and he can't..
Same case with broly, no matter how strong he gets he dosent know to control it, Gohan can.. that's the point I made anyway..

I have stated everything clearly above, if you would just take the time to read it..

I would halt the discussion here.. there is nothing else to say
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Re: Who had more potential, Broly or Gohan?

Post by SSJ Ace Son » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:33 am

well as the son of goku gohan had way more potential. but broly could have been amazing.its a tie if u ask me :? :thumbup:
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Re: Who had more potential, Broly or Gohan?

Post by RedShift » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:46 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:You didn't read my post well enough..
The bolded part clearly shows I agree broly is physically far superior..
It still dosen't change the fact he is insane.. and yes he trained far more than a day in his life.. his father trained him, he just didn't care after a while, he couldn't take that much power, he is insane..
You can be 100 times weaker than a person who has no arms, yet you will be able to open a door and he can't..
Same case with broly, no matter how strong he gets he dosent know to control it, Gohan can.. that's the point I made anyway..

I have stated everything clearly above, if you would just take the time to read it..

I would halt the discussion here.. there is nothing else to say
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No, I did read your post. The events in Z and its films don't support your argument - that's the point. Were it not for Elder Kai's ritual, Gohan would have hit his peak back against Cell. It's debatable if that era SS2 Gohan could go 1v1 against Broly on even terms.

Anyhow, the topic is more in the realm of hypotheticals anyway. Neither Gohan or Broly will ever have the work ethic of Goku, Vegeta, or even Tien & Piccolo. It's interesting to brainstorm what they might achieve if they did though.

P. S. - I don't have a personal stake in this discussion. I'm not really a 'fan' of either of the characters here.

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Re: Who had more potential, Broly or Gohan?

Post by Perfectionist-Cell » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:13 pm

kinisking wrote:
Perfectionist-Cell wrote:Broly hands down. Gohan shouldn't even have potential to begin with.
You're just mad because he beat your ass :P.

Although it makes your profile picture kind of confusing.. :think:

I put Gohan because he is the last person i saw when i died.

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