Super is TOO anime.

[keyz05]

Back in DBZ, everything was colorful and some stuff is wacky. Here we just see a lot of anime scenes/segments and all that. Can anyone explain why?

[Boo Machine]

I'm not sure I understand. Could you explain further? What does "Too anime" mean?

[keyz05]

I'm not sure I understand. Could you explain further? What does "Too anime" mean?

It means the series has shifted into a modern anime style. Characters wearing fancy suits, anime schools, and all that. It's filled with Japanese stuff, for the most part.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It means the series has shifted into a modern anime style. Characters wearing fancy suits, anime schools, and all that. It's filled with Japanese stuff, for the most part.

It was always like that. Japanese cartoons just happened to be much better in the 80's-90's.

[Boo Machine]

I'm not sure I understand. Could you explain further? What does "Too anime" mean?

It means the series has shifted into a modern anime style. Characters wearing fancy suits, anime schools, and all that. It's filled with Japanese stuff, for the most part.

Well it is for a Japanese audience. So of course they're going to have "Japanese stuff."

DBZ would put characters in fancy suits a few times. And Gohan had an entire thing where we just watched his high schools adventures for a bit. I'm not even sure we've been near a school in super.

Still not sure what makes it too anime, but maybe modern Dragonball just isn't a thing you're into? Could be any number of reasons but I'm not sure about Too anime.

[keyz05]

I'm not sure I understand. Could you explain further? What does "Too anime" mean?

It means the series has shifted into a modern anime style. Characters wearing fancy suits, anime schools, and all that. It's filled with Japanese stuff, for the most part.

Well it is for a Japanese audience. So of course they're going to have "Japanese stuff."

DBZ would put characters in fancy suits a few times. And Gohan had an entire thing where we just watched his high schools adventures for a bit. I'm not even sure we've been near a school in super.

Still not sure what makes it too anime, but maybe modern Dragonball just isn't a thing you're into? Could be any number of reasons but I'm not sure about Too anime.

I like DragonBall, no matter what. I just want to see what others think about DragonBall's modern anime style.

[MajinMan]

"Why is my Japanese show being Japanese!"

I don't understand this. Have you see Dragon Ball, like, at all?

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Sorry, but a Japanese cartoon made by a Japanese company and Japanese author in Japanese for Japanese children will definitely absolutely 100% have Japanese stuff.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Also, re-reading now, your premise is wrong

Back in DBZ, everything was colorful and some stuff is wacky. Here we just see a lot of anime scenes/segments and all that. Can anyone explain why?

Dragon Ball Super is wackier than the old stuff ever was, even if superficially. Also, old Dragon Ball had a lot more generic action sequences in it as well, especially DBZ, which occupies most of the show. It's also riddled with the shonen cliche of frequent comment by the spectators, dragged out battles, and characters that are stupidly focused almost exclusively on their strength. Not to be rude, but the idea behind your question is ass-backwards.

[keyz05]

Also, re-reading now, your premise is wrong

Back in DBZ, everything was colorful and some stuff is wacky. Here we just see a lot of anime scenes/segments and all that. Can anyone explain why?

Dragon Ball Super is wackier than the old stuff ever was, even if superficially, and old Dragon Ball had a lot more generic action sequences in it as well. Not to be rude, but the idea behind your question is ass-backwards.

Maybe you're right. I guess the older DragonBall did have Japanese stuff before being more modern like we see today.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

It was always like that. Japanese cartoons just happened to be much better in the 80's-90's.

I don't think that's the case at all. Japanese cartoons nowadays are just as good if not better. Cartoons like Hagane no Renkinjutsushi: Fullmetal Alchemist, One Punch Man, Mob Psycho100, Shingeki no Kyojin, Space Dandy, Naruto Shippuuden, Hunter X Hunter(2011), Casshern Sins to name a few are good shows.

The 80s-90s cartoons and the modern cartoons both era's have some good stuff and bad stuff, neither is inherently better than the other.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

There are a few legitimate observations here that can coalesce to form some confusion about Super's tone, but "anime" in quotes by itself doesn't really constitute a complaint.

It it fair to say that the Z-era of Dragon Ball gutted a lot of the series more explicitly-Asian imagery in favor Toriyama's original, comparatively culturally-neuter sci-fi, which has done a bang-up job of helping some fans not identify it in their heads as a "Japanese" property. Take someone with that mindset and plug them into Super, a show produced in the anime industry of the 2010's rather than the 1990's, written primarily by Toei anime-side rather than directly by Toriyama, and the injection of the odd anime trope that original animated series usually avoided from time to time (Bulma's screaming "BAKA!" loud enough to shake the Capsule Corp. building, the perhaps Toriko/One Piece-esque "food porn" joke more potent than anything in the original run) and I would not be the least bit surprised if someone concludes this isn't the Dragon Ball they remember. That Super's been collectively hit or miss so far does not help matters.

For the record, none of that applies to clear and deliberate nonsense like the Arale episode.

[Ki Breaker]

I think I understand what you mean..

Mai and trunks saying YOKATTA waah waah anytime they see each other, trunks getting ridiculous power because friendship, learning techniques you never saw because a freaking child screamed teary eyed..
Ya these do smell of generic anime..
I just took it as a parody to them, do the same if it helps you sleep at night..

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It was always like that. Japanese cartoons just happened to be much better in the 80's-90's.

I don't think that's the case at all. Japanese cartoons nowadays are just as good if not better. Cartoons like Hagane no Renkinjutsushi: Fullmetal Alchemist, One Punch Man, Mob Psycho100, Shingeki no Kyojin, Space Dandy, Naruto Shippuuden, Hunter X Hunter(2011), Casshern Sins to name a few are good shows.

The 80s-90s cartoons and the modern cartoons both era's have some good stuff and bad stuff, neither is inherently better than the other.

Oh my God! The nature of enjoyment is subjective?! Thanks, I honestly had no idea. See, I was saying that it was better in a factual sense, but now I realize that other people subjectively enjoy different things from different eras. Yeah, I get that there are great, iconic cartoons made more recently. I'm just saying that in general, the tropes of the old cartoons aren't nearly as obnoxious. Also, while I'm making truth statements, Naruto is not a good show, you'll need those sharpened intellectual fangs to convince me otherwise. Every statement I make is calculated, 100% sincere, without a hint of inflammation or sarcasm, but I digress.

TL;DR: No shit. It was only a half-hearted statement, I don't literally mean that newer cartoons are worse.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

TL;DR: No shit. It was only a half-hearted statement, I don't literally mean that newer cartoons are worse.

You could've worded that better, but my apologies for the misunderstanding. I'm so tired of that 80s-90s was the golden era, the modern era is not as good comments and I thought you were doing the same.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It's fine. Don't take it personally or anything, I just amuse myself by going on mock-rants from time to time. I actually agree with you, people do overestimate that period.

I'm serious about Naruto not being good, though

[sintzu]

Back in DBZ, everything was colorful and some stuff is wacky. Here we just see a lot of anime scenes/segments and all that. Can anyone explain why?

If I'm not mistaking then what you're asking is, why is modern DB doing generic anime things that the original (especially Z) avoided, right ?

If that's what you're asking then it's probably to bring in as many new fans as possible but doing that is leading it (Super) to heavily clash with the original in nearly every way.

[namekiansaiyan]

The problem is probably Toei as they add and fill in the gaps and instead of doing it the taditional Dragon ball way they are doing it the traditional anime way.

[Yomi]

It means the series has shifted into a modern anime style. Characters wearing fancy suits, anime schools, and all that. It's filled with Japanese stuff, for the most part.

Is this just a response to episode 69? Because that's the episode in which they are wearing fancy suits. "Japanese stuff"?
Also, if you have a problem with anime schools, which I haven't seen in super yet. How did you like the Great Saiyaman arc?

[Saikyo no Senshi]

It's fine. Don't take it personally or anything, I just amuse myself by going on mock-rants from time to time. I actually agree with you, people do overestimate that period.

I'm serious about Naruto not being good, though

Oh, it's cool. I'm not taking anything personally. As for Naruto, I disagree completely. I'm someone who is not too stuck on the script side of things. The story/plot/script whatever is not the be-all and end-all like some fans say. It doesn't make or break a show.

I like good storytelling and storytelling in an anime is good voice acting, music, engaging sound effects and most importantly animation and direction. Naruto has got'em all much much better than any other long running series.

You can at least agree that Naruto has an interesting enough premise, right? I don't think it is complex or deep or earth shattering like some do. At its core, it is a simple story for people with simple tastes. What it excels at is storytelling. The amount of love it gets from the staff shows. Dragon Ball, One Piece not even Hunter X Hunter(2011) got as much as love it has gotten. The battle scenes and dialogue scenes always expand and improve upon the comic.

Guys like Wakabayashi Atsushi, Matsumoto Norio, Tsuru Toshiyuki, Suzuki Hirofumi and Nishio Tetsuya did it in the 2002 Naruto series while they and Date Hayato(series director)also pushed young guns like Yamashita Hiroyuki, Masayuki Kouda, Sessha Gorou and transformed them into not only good animators but also great directors. Studio Pierrot with all their connections were able to get a superb web-gen animator like Yamashita Shingo and the amazingly talented Kobayashi Naoki who have produced outstanding work for Naruto Shippuuden.

My point is animators/directors are storytellers and they told the Naruto story with all their might and passion and it's hard not to notice the excellent work they've done. That is more important and it makes Naruto and Naruto Shippuden more than qualified to be called a good cartoon. It's not by any means flawless, there's instances of bad storytelling but it's highs far far overshadow it's lows.

I also enjoy the comic. Kishimoto Masashi's attention to detail is wonderful. As an artist, he draws well and I like his drawings just as much as Toriyama's. The inner Sakura is one of the most intelligent and creative ideas I've seen. His work started going downhill in the later stages of the comic, but I don't blame him cause the cartoon makes up for it. It could very well be him getting burnt-out just like Toriyama. It's not easy to write/draw on a weekly basis after-all, but he and his editors planned the story decently and it reached a conclusion which I thought was pretty fitting.