Minions for Zamasu

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Minions for Zamasu

Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:11 pm

While I was happy with the Zamasu arc for the most part dose anyone else think some flunkies would have been cool. Not in a way that takes away Black/Zamasu's accomplishments but just to increase the scope of their organisation and add some weaker enemies for others to fight. My ideas...

More evil/corrupted trainee Kaioshin - Basically Kaioshin who agree with Zamasu's way of thinking and follow our main bad guys. With 12 universes worth of kaioshin this idea is not impossible and you could add elements of betrayal (kaioshin who want to rule instead of Zamasu or ones who have misgivings about the Zero Mortals Plan) as well as giving weaker caste members to fight. It cannot however be true kaioshin as that would also mean so of the Gods of Destruction are still around.

Soulless Constructs or Creations - Basicly Zamasu/Black use their power to create life without a soul or mind that is completely subservient to their will, like the Black Clones but on a grander, more meaningful scale. For example While Zamasu and Black get to work on earth, the minions are off working on other planets.

Now some have suggested demon but I think this is implausible. Given Zamasu's radicalism, he will view demons as even lower then other mortals as they are effectively living embodiment of darker aspects of mortals and the evil we are all capable of. So it would be very unlikely that he would let them live if they met, let alone work with them.

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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by HeroR » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:31 am

Part of Trunks' reason that you suck speech before he cut Merged Zamasu in half is that he was so selfish that he could only depend on himself. Him having minions would go against that since Zamasu truly feels that only he can save the multiverse.
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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by Lord Frieza » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:24 pm

HeroR wrote:Part of Trunks' reason that you suck speech before he cut Merged Zamasu in half is that he was so selfish that he could only depend on himself. Him having minions would go against that since Zamasu truly feels that only he can save the multiverse.
Good point.

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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by Muffin Man » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:14 am

His minions should all have been different Zamasus from different timelines. One could be from a timeline where he stole Vegeta's body. One could be from a timeline where he stole Trunks' body. One could be from a timeline where he stole Mr. Satan's body. Et cetera.

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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by ShadowBardock89 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:53 am

He was his own minion. Minionception.
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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by Araki » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:18 pm

Lord Frieza wrote:
HeroR wrote:Part of Trunks' reason that you suck speech before he cut Merged Zamasu in half is that he was so selfish that he could only depend on himself. Him having minions would go against that since Zamasu truly feels that only he can save the multiverse.
Good point.
In-universe reasons aside, i would add that's not really Toriyama's style. Freeza and Piccolo Daimao were the only main antagonists that had "minions", when you think about it. That's more something the movies liked to do.

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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:32 pm

Black thought all mortals AND gods were sinners. To admit one had a saving grace would destroy his entire perception on the world.

He realized the only companion worthy of himself....was himself.
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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by HeroR » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:19 am

Araki wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
HeroR wrote:Part of Trunks' reason that you suck speech before he cut Merged Zamasu in half is that he was so selfish that he could only depend on himself. Him having minions would go against that since Zamasu truly feels that only he can save the multiverse.
Good point.
In-universe reasons aside, i would add that's not really Toriyama's style. Freeza and Piccolo Daimao were the only main antagonists that had "minions", when you think about it. That's more something the movies liked to do.
There was the Red Ribbon Army. But only handful of them had combat experience with General Blue being the only who physically threatened Goku.
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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:32 pm

The Shadow Dragons could work if they ever do DLC story mode chapters in XV2. The Shadow Dragons hate Goku and the people of Earth for over using the Dragon Balls. I think Yi Xing Long can agree with Zamasu's Zero Mortals Plan.
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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by Cipher » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:02 am

I try to read a little bit every day, mostly stories, but sometimes I have to read the same thing over and over again because I dont know what it means. And its hard to write. I know I should look up all the words in the dictionary but its so hard and I'm so tired all the time.

Then I got the idea that I would only use the easy words instead of the long hard ones. That saves time. I put minions on Zamasus grave about once a week. Mrs Flynn thinks I'm crazy to put minions on a kaios grave but I told her that Zamasu was special.

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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:06 am

Henchmen are largely pointless in this series. Zamasu not having any was a plus.
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Re: Minions for Zamasu

Post by Bullza » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:04 am

Absolutely not. That's the one good thing that Dragon Ball always had going for it when compared to most other shonen, a lack of henchmen for the main villains.

One Piece pretty must started that trend. Bleach and Fairy Tail did it aswell and they were all poor for it. Having to go through several predictable filler battles between a secondary character and some fodder introduced to die before you get to the fight you actually want to see.

That's something that this series never needs.

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