"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Chelentano]

"That promise"? Could it be the Zen'ou's tournament? What else are people waiting for?

I think Veget was part of Toriyama's outline. It's a logical conclusion given it's a story revolving around Kaioushins and the Potaras haven't been treated like regular ornaments.

It could be, but I think he was referring to when he recently said that the manga would soon be ahead of the anime again.

The "Toriyama twist" part tells me that he's talking about bringing Zeno a friend. Or maybe Trunk's promise to save his world.

[Mazingerdestro]

Judging from what Toyotaro says, Toriyama has become quite the "Torishima" nowadays. He rejects his work all the time. Poor guy he just said wants Toriyama senpai to notice him

[Sandubadear]

Judging from what Toyotaro says, Toriyama has become quite the "Torishima" nowadays. He rejects his work all the time. Poor guy he just said wants Toriyama senpai to notice him

Next, on Dr. Slump Super: Tori-bot becomes the evil Dr. Mayarito!!

[Neon Z]

"That promise"? Could it be the Zen'ou's tournament? What else are people waiting for?

I'd guess the tournament. The fact that in the anime we're getting the U6 crew returning and even an arc with Goku vs Hit also would line up with that. Toei's writers would know how the U6 crew would be in the next arc and maybe Goku and Hit won't even face each other in the next tournament, leaving space for the anime to handle their rematch by itself.

[Ajay]

I assumed the promise was to do with Goku and Hit's promise to fight each other uninhibited in the future. I figured the Toriyama twist has something to do with who put the Hit on Goku, but I dunno.

I guess I really shouldn't assume that this is the new arc since we've not actually had any confirmation of such a thing.

I sure hope it's not another tournament. I have absolutely zero interest in that.

[Alee9977]

I don't expect that promise to be the tournament, I mean, people are expecting the Salad Saga more than the tournament, also the Goku vs Hit promise was something that I barely remember so I assume it is the Salad Saga....
Or maybe any other promise made in Z, like what happened in Ep 2 of Super.

[Neon Z]

I don't expect that promise to be the tournament, I mean, people are expecting the Salad Saga more than the tournament, also the Goku vs Hit promise was something that I barely remember so I assume it is the Salad Saga....
Or maybe any other promise made in Z, like what happened in Ep 2 of Super.

Was the talk about visiting Salad even in the manga? The talk about a Goku vs Hit rematch was though, but I think Hit and Goku not even getting to face each other in the new tournament would count as a "Toriyama twist".

[Chuquita]

I was mostly disappointed in the previous tournament (or maybe I'm just spoiled by the wacky variety of powers I see in Jojo every week?) I'm still hungry for Planet Salad though. That tease about Cabba's king reminding him of Vegeta is something I can't get out of my head.

Speaking of Jojo, as neat as it is to have our own Jotaro in the form of Hit, I'd like to have gotten a Joseph or Josuke instead.

[eledoremassis02]

I love the idea of the manga moving on when the shows between "seasons" and with how much toriyama is involved, I am very excited!
I'm assuming toriyama wrote both endings? (Manga and anime)

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I love the idea of the manga moving on when the shows between "seasons" and with how much toriyama is involved, I am very excited!
I'm assuming toriyama wrote both endings? (Manga and anime)

If all is as is, he didn't write either. Toyotaro and Toei write their own version based on vague notes.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I don't expect that promise to be the tournament, I mean, people are expecting the Salad Saga more than the tournament, also the Goku vs Hit promise was something that I barely remember so I assume it is the Salad Saga....
Or maybe any other promise made in Z, like what happened in Ep 2 of Super.

All these supposed "hints" about a Planet Salad arc are anime-only.

I assumed the promise was to do with Goku and Hit's promise to fight each other uninhibited in the future. I figured the Toriyama twist has something to do with who put the Hit on Goku, but I dunno.

They just said "Let's fight again for real next time!", they didn't actually make any promise.

[Zeru14]

I love the idea of the manga moving on when the shows between "seasons" and with how much toriyama is involved, I am very excited!
I'm assuming toriyama wrote both endings? (Manga and anime)

If all is as is, he didn't write either. Toyotaro and Toei write their own version based on vague notes.

In that case, I wonder how different the finale in the manga will differ from the anime, will Toyotaro opt for an more light hearted conclusion. Maybe the Namekian Dragonballs will be used, like some of us was speculating, from the start, it was never clear if Zamasu(in any timeline) knew that Earth(formerly in Future Trunks and Cell timelines) and New Namek had their own set of Dragonballs or not.

[Will]

I love the idea of the manga moving on when the shows between "seasons" and with how much toriyama is involved, I am very excited!
I'm assuming toriyama wrote both endings? (Manga and anime)

If all is as is, he didn't write either. Toyotaro and Toei write their own version based on vague notes.

In that case, I wonder how different the finale in the manga will differ from the anime, will Toyotaro opt for an more light hearted conclusion. Maybe the Namekian Dragonballs will be used, like some of us was speculating, from the start, it was never clear if Zamasu(in any timeline) knew that Earth(formerly in Future Trunks and Cell timelines) and New Namek had their own set of Dragonballs or not.

Toyotaro didn't said that the ending specifically will be different from the ending.
He just said that: "The rest of the “Future Trunks arc” will take a slightly different approach with how things play out, compared to the TV anime."
The rest of arc will just be slighthly different from the anime (like all the others arc have been.)

[Theophrastus]

Super manga vol. 2 sold 56,947 copies in its first week.

Significantly better than what volume 1 opened at (but that was partly due to it selling out). I suppose we'll see whether it's still on the charts next week or not.

[eledoremassis02]

Looking at the spine art I wonder how long the manga plans on running? Any ideas if there will be a break after black?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Looking at the spine art I wonder how long the manga plans on running? Any ideas if there will be a break after black?

We know that the manga will be ahead of the anime soon, so it's probably not going on break any time soon.

[Lord Beerus]

Super manga vol. 2 sold 56,947 copies in its first week.

Significantly better than what volume 1 opened at (but that was partly due to it selling out). I suppose we'll see whether it's still on the charts next week or not.

It's definitely gonna fall off the charts next week unless the top selling manga are around the 150-200k region.

[sailorspazz]

Late to comment, since I had more important stuff to deal with the past couple weeks, but it's disappointing that the manga is so rushed. The art style really is appealing (well, my problem with how Toyotarou draws Zamasu aside, everything else is good), it's very nice to look at, but I am bothered by how quickly everything is happening. Though the addition of the thorough explanation of how Trunks dealt with Bobbidi/Dabra a couple chapters back was good, maybe that could've been cut down to give more time to the true meat of this arc. Zamasu did still get his development, but I don't find his reasons for taking Gokuu's body specifically to be as believable as the anime's version. Between avoiding the paradox and having the motivation be solid, I would rather have the latter take precedence, honestly. The messy timeline stuff in the anime is irksome, but its character development for Zamasu was much better, in my opinion.

I'm now curious about Future Zamasu, as well. We saw Black at the cabin drinking tea by himself, without Zamasu. I guess they didn't want to reveal him so anticlimactically? At first I thought he might not appear at all, but we already saw art of their fusion. But with the way this story is rushing, how much time will they even have to devote to him? He probably won't even get to show off the great anti-mortal speeches he's prepared and I bet we won't even get to see them hug

[Noah]

Judging from what Toyotaro says, Toriyama has become quite the "Torishima" nowadays. He rejects his work all the time. Poor guy he just said wants Toriyama senpai to notice him

What Toyotaro said to imply that?

[Ajay]

What Toyotaro said to imply that?

I don't know if that's necessarily the right conclusion to draw, but in various interviews, he's spoken about how Toriyama does criticise his work a lot, and that motivates him to improve.