The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[Noah]

Depends on how much of the Kaioken he can use. x2 would be barely enough to match Cell's full power. I say he'd need at least x4 to completely vaporize him.

Perfect or Super Perfect form?

[TheUltimateNinja]

Depends on how much of the Kaioken he can use. x2 would be barely enough to match Cell's full power. I say he'd need at least x4 to completely vaporize him.

Perfect or Super Perfect form?

He's probably talking about Perfect Cell, Kaioken x2 Goku would still get wrecked by Super Perfect Cell.

[nickzambuto]

What if Dr. Brief didn't take #16's bomb out of his body, and so #16 did end up self destructing against Cell?

Cell would survive and regenerate, but most of the Z fighters would be dead.

We'd get Super Perfect Cell early. When Cell came back from his own self destruct, he was deranged and maniacal and went straight for a full powered Kamehameha to end things. Was this attitude shift a result of his near death and overwhelming power up, or a reaction to Gohan's torture? If the former, he'd kill everyone pretty quick. If the latter, he'd still want to see Gohan's power and would try to bring it out, although without 16 around to trigger the transformation I don't see Gohan letting go, even if his friends started dying.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Depends on how much of the Kaioken he can use. x2 would be barely enough to match Cell's full power. I say he'd need at least x4 to completely vaporize him.

Perfect or Super Perfect form?

He's probably talking about Perfect Cell, Kaioken x2 Goku would still get wrecked by Super Perfect Cell.

The combination of Super Saiyan and Kaioken would be the Super Kaioken, which would be more than enough for Goku to deal with any canon form of Cell.

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Dr. Brief didn't take #16's bomb out of his body, and so #16 did end up self destructing against Cell?

Cell would survive and regenerate, but most of the Z fighters would be dead.

We'd get Super Perfect Cell early. When Cell came back from his own self destruct, he was deranged and maniacal and went straight for a full powered Kamehameha to end things. Was this attitude shift a result of his near death and overwhelming power up, or a reaction to Gohan's torture? If the former, he'd kill everyone pretty quick. If the latter, he'd still want to see Gohan's power and would try to bring it out, although without 16 around to trigger the transformation I don't see Gohan letting go, even if his friends started dying.

Gohan would probably die or be severely injured from the blast.

[Cetra]

What if Goku could combo KK with Mastered SS, does he have a shot of winning against Cell?

Considering Cell can also use the Kaiouken and thus can counter with it, something he should have done in the manga in the first place against Gohan, no one should win against him.

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Goku could combo KK with Mastered SS, does he have a shot of winning against Cell?

Considering Cell can also use the Kaiouken and thus can counter with it, something he should have done in the manga in the first place against Gohan, no one should win against him.

Perhaps Cell's biology prevents him from using the technique.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Perfect or Super Perfect form?

He's probably talking about Perfect Cell, Kaioken x2 Goku would still get wrecked by Super Perfect Cell.

The combination of Super Saiyan and Kaioken would be the Super Kaioken, which would be more than enough for Goku to deal with any canon form of Cell.

Same technique, beefed up name. Goku combines it with SSB and it's exactly the same as using Kaioken from base form (power level wise). How would SSJ make Kaioken any different? In the non-canon episodes, if Goku's Super Kaioken was anything more than 2-4 times his initial SSJ power, Pikkon would be instantly KO'd.

[Hellspawn28]

What if Zamasu wish to switch bodies with Hit instead of Goku?

[ekrolo2]

What if Zamasu wish to switch bodies with Hit instead of Goku?

He wins the arc. Hit > everyone in the Black arc minus Whis, Zeno and Beerus.

[Ki Breaker]

What if chi chi was supportive of gohan's training from the beginning of z.

While we are at it, what if bulma didn't have sex appeal in Dragonball

[LightBing]

What if chi chi was supportive of gohan's training from the beginning of z.

While we are at it, what if bulma didn't have sex appeal in Dragonball

Gohan would probably be around Yamcha level when Raditz arrived. I guess his rage attacks would be much more powerful, allowing Goku to survive the conflict. Because of this there's no Kaioken. The Earth Warriors manage to defeat Nappa but get squashed by Vegeta, unless Gohan pulls yet another rage attack. I doubt that would work thou.

If Bulma had no sex appeal Pilaf would probably be King of Earth. Even if they convince Master Roshi to give them his Dragon Ball, Yamcha would just kill them or leave them to die in the desert.

[Noah]

What if Zamasu wish to switch bodies with Hit instead of Goku?

He wins the arc. Hit > everyone in the Black arc minus Whis, Zeno and Beerus.

There's no basis for that, as battle powers are messed up in Super, even more in this arc and I don't really believe Hit is superior to Deus Ex Machina Super Trunks, Merged Zamasu and Vegetto Blue

[ekrolo2]

What if Zamasu wish to switch bodies with Hit instead of Goku?

He wins the arc. Hit > everyone in the Black arc minus Whis, Zeno and Beerus.

There's no basis for that, as battle powers are messed up in Super, even more in this arc and I don't really believe Hit is superior to Deus Ex Machina Super Trunks, Merged Zamasu and Vegetto Blue

I base this mostly on the performance of the characters. Hit is strong enough to outlast Goku's Blue KKX10 Kamehameha while a tired Goku with most of his limbs destroyed can bitch slap Merged Zamasu around with a mere X2 KK boost.

[Rumanid]

IDK if this has been asked already, but:

What if Goku and Gohan actually managed to fuse against Super Buu, while Vegeta was absorbed?

[RedShift]

Goku & Gohan fusing would have stomped Buutenks just like Vegito did. Except when Gotenks fusion wore off it would have been even worse. Not much of anything changes really.

What if the Fat Buu absorbed Dabura instead of killing him?

[Saiyan007]

I base this mostly on the performance of the characters.

and ignore the numerous statements coming out other characters mouths as well.

Hit is strong enough to outlast Goku's Blue KKX10 Kamehameha while a tired Goku with most of his limbs destroyed can bitch slap Merged Zamasu around with a mere X2 KK boost.

I don't recall Hit even tanking that KHH he dodged with his time improvement not too mention Vegta saying he never felt power like this before while sensing Zamasu and oh you know Goku the same one who fought Hit saying he can't beat him without fusion

If you want to ignore Goku's own words that he doesn't stand a chance against Zamasu and pretend Hit is stronger than Zamasu go ahead but it's pretty clear Zamasu is much stronger than Hit.

Zamasu was heavily suppressed against Goku and Vegeta he was toying with them,getting angry,breathing heavily and gritting your teeth is not a sign of going all out,Beerus did the same when he fought SSJG Goku but we all know Beerus is much much stronger than Goku.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Goku & Gohan fusing would have stomped Buutenks just like Vegito did. Except when Gotenks fusion wore off it would have been even worse. Not much of anything changes really.

What if the Fat Buu absorbed Dabura instead of killing him?

1) Then karma would have hit both Super Saiyan 2 Gohan and Majin Vegeta that much harder.

2) What if Super Perfect Cell wasn't entirely destroyed by the spirit of Goku, Vegeta, and Teen Gohan during the conclusion of the Cell Games and had regenerated from the subcellular-level before using Instant Transmission to appear before Majin Vegeta? When the Evil Saiyan Prince was just about to provoke Goku by killing people at the World Tournament?

[TheUltimateNinja]

1) What if Super Perfect Cell wasn't entirely destroyed by the spirit of Goku, Vegeta, and Teen Gohan during the conclusion of the Cell Games and had regenerated from the subcellular-level before using Instant Transmission to appear before Majin Vegeta? When the Evil Saiyan Prince was just about to provoke Goku by killing people at the World Tournament?

Vegeta would be overwhelmed by Cell's power and he would be forced to team up with Goku to win, this will probably humiliate him and make him give up on fighting Goku.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) What if Super Perfect Cell wasn't entirely destroyed by the spirit of Goku, Vegeta, and Teen Gohan during the conclusion of the Cell Games and had regenerated from the subcellular-level before using Instant Transmission to appear before Majin Vegeta? When the Evil Saiyan Prince was just about to provoke Goku by killing people at the World Tournament?

Vegeta would be overwhelmed by Cell's power and he would be forced to team up with Goku to win, this will probably humiliate him and make him give up on fighting Goku.

1) Hell yeah! Having Super Perfect Cell making fun of Vegeta and Gohan would be worth it!

2) Then what if during the fight, Legendary Super Saiyan Broly from Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming came crashing down to join in?