The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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Initial #19 and #20 VS Piccolo (no weighted clothing on), Base Gohan, Yamcha, Tien, Krillin, Chiaotzu
[All Androids Saga, Pre-Kami Fusion. No Tribeam/Kienzan/Solar Flare. Absorbing allowed]
former matches:
Manga Buu Arc Chiaotzu VS Guru unlocked Roshi [manga DBZ only; exclude all BoG/FnF/DBS feats; No flying]
23rd WMAT Chiaotzu VS 22nd WMAT Roshi [No flying]
[All Androids Saga, Pre-Kami Fusion. No Tribeam/Kienzan/Solar Flare. Absorbing allowed]
former matches:
Manga Buu Arc Chiaotzu VS Guru unlocked Roshi [manga DBZ only; exclude all BoG/FnF/DBS feats; No flying]
23rd WMAT Chiaotzu VS 22nd WMAT Roshi [No flying]
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I think with Piccolo's enough. He was dominating A20 with a bit of Piccolo's energy, as well as Vegeta's blast energy, with Vegeta's energy it seems a good boost.Angelus wrote:Initial #19 and #20 VS Piccolo (no weighted clothing on), Base Gohan, Yamcha, Tien, Krillin, Chiaotzu
[All Androids Saga, Pre-Kami Fusion. No Tribeam/Kienzan/Solar Flare. Absorbing allowed]
former matches:
Manga Buu Arc Chiaotzu VS Guru unlocked Roshi [manga DBZ only; exclude all BoG/FnF/DBS feats; No flying]
23rd WMAT Chiaotzu VS 22nd WMAT Roshi [No flying]
Piccolo > A20 (energy absorbed) > Initial A20 >= Initial A19
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- Piccolo is the only one around powerful enough to really do any damage to the Androids. However, given his utter beatdown of a powered-up Android No. 20, who was the stronger of the two anyways, I don't doubt that he should be able handle the two of them together, especially with Gohan and the others backing him up and providing distractions for the enemies, though Chiaotzu and/or Yamcha probably kick the bucket by the end of the fight.Angelus wrote:Initial #19 and #20 VS Piccolo (no weighted clothing on), Base Gohan, Yamcha, Tien, Krillin, Chiaotzu
[All Androids Saga, Pre-Kami Fusion. No Tribeam/Kienzan/Solar Flare. Absorbing allowed]
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The z fighters take it. Piccolo takes one out while the others distract one. Than Piccolo comes and takes the other out.Angelus wrote:Initial #19 and #20 VS Piccolo (no weighted clothing on), Base Gohan, Yamcha, Tien, Krillin, Chiaotzu
[All Androids Saga, Pre-Kami Fusion. No Tribeam/Kienzan/Solar Flare. Absorbing allowed]
Roshi wins both of these and he may not even need to be unlocked by Guru.former matches:
Manga Buu Arc Chiaotzu VS Guru unlocked Roshi [manga DBZ only; exclude all BoG/FnF/DBS feats; No flying]
23rd WMAT Chiaotzu VS 22nd WMAT Roshi [No flying]
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So even after all those years, Chiaotzu never got beyond a battle power of 139?dragon boss z wrote:Roshi wins both of these and he may not even need to be unlocked by Guru.
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1) Syn Shenron vs. Captain Ginyu (Body of Tagoma).TheUltimateNinja wrote:1) Omega Shenron gets erased in one shot.Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) Super Saiyan Blue Little Goku (GT) vs. Omega Shenron.
2) A powerful enough Stardust Breaker would be enough to end the Ethereal Merged Zamasu.
3) Vegito Blue vs. Beerus and Champa.
4) Masked Saiyan vs. Present Zamasu.
3) Beerus can win by himself.
4) Probably Present Zamasu. But Bardock's feats in the game are totally inconsistent so we don't really know.
2) Beerus vs. Venyu (Captain Ginyu in the body of Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F).
3) Super Saiyan Blue Xeno Bardock vs. Captain Ginyu (Body of Beerus).
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1: Syn wins without too much difficulty, he's in a completely different tier.Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) Syn Shenron vs. Captain Ginyu (Body of Tagoma).
2) Beerus vs. Venyu (Captain Ginyu in the body of Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F).
3) Super Saiyan Blue Xeno Bardock vs. Captain Ginyu (Body of Beerus).
2: Beerus oneshots.
3: Beenyu oneshots, Gods of Destruction > All.
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4) Cell Junior vs. Base Bojack.TheUltimateNinja wrote:1: Syn wins without too much difficulty, he's in a completely different tier.Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) Syn Shenron vs. Captain Ginyu (Body of Tagoma).
2) Beerus vs. Venyu (Captain Ginyu in the body of Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F).
3) Super Saiyan Blue Xeno Bardock vs. Captain Ginyu (Body of Beerus).
2: Beerus oneshots.
3: Beenyu oneshots, Gods of Destruction > All.
5) Super Perfect Cell vs. Hatchiyack.
6) Golden Frieza vs. Present Zamasu.
7) Ghost Warrior Metal Cooler vs. Majin Dabura.
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Base Bojack > M9 Vegeta > CG Vegeta = Cell JrSteven Bloodriver wrote:4) Cell Junior vs. Base Bojack.TheUltimateNinja wrote:1: Syn wins without too much difficulty, he's in a completely different tier.Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) Syn Shenron vs. Captain Ginyu (Body of Tagoma).
2) Beerus vs. Venyu (Captain Ginyu in the body of Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F).
3) Super Saiyan Blue Xeno Bardock vs. Captain Ginyu (Body of Beerus).
2: Beerus oneshots.
3: Beenyu oneshots, Gods of Destruction > All.
5) Super Perfect Cell vs. Hatchiyack.
6) Golden Frieza vs. Present Zamasu.
Golden Freeza >= SSB Goku > SS3 Goku > SS2 Goku > Zamasu
These all seem really self-explanatory honestly.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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How about a Ghost Warrior incarnation of Metal Cooler vs. Majin Dabura?RandomGuy96 wrote:Base Bojack > M9 Vegeta > CG Vegeta = Cell JrSteven Bloodriver wrote:4) Cell Junior vs. Base Bojack.TheUltimateNinja wrote: 1: Syn wins without too much difficulty, he's in a completely different tier.
2: Beerus oneshots.
3: Beenyu oneshots, Gods of Destruction > All.
5) Super Perfect Cell vs. Hatchiyack.
6) Golden Frieza vs. Present Zamasu.
Golden Freeza >= SSB Goku > SS3 Goku > SS2 Goku > Zamasu
These all seem really self-explanatory honestly.
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I have one.
Gohan from Android Saga vs 4th Form Frieza. No 50% or 100% allowed. This is the Frieza who killed Vegeta and from the beggining of the fight with Goku. Frieza is available to use no hands too.
Gohan from Android Saga vs 4th Form Frieza. No 50% or 100% allowed. This is the Frieza who killed Vegeta and from the beggining of the fight with Goku. Frieza is available to use no hands too.
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Dabura crushes Cooler, he's nearly as strong as Perfect Cell whereas Meta Cooler is barely pushing Imperfect Cell level at best.Steven Bloodriver wrote: How about a Ghost Warrior incarnation of Metal Cooler vs. Majin Dabura?
Frieza still wins. He was using enough power to match Base Goku which would be 3 million/2.5%, and Gohan isn't quite there yet. He could waste Frieza with a rage boost, though.dragonball0900 wrote:I have one.
Gohan from Android Saga vs 4th Form Frieza. No 50% or 100% allowed. This is the Frieza who killed Vegeta and from the beggining of the fight with Goku. Frieza is available to use no hands too.
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Yeah, I also have Frieza winning. Keep in mind, however, that Gohan trained with Piccolo and Goku for the Androids. We saw the huge increase Piccolo got so maybe Gohan, who had 200K back in the Frieza saga, could get to at least the 3M-4m like Goku and Frieza with that training. But yeah, Frieza takes this.
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I honestly don't think Gohan is all that far behind the other Saiyans by that point, aside from not being a Super Saiyan yet. While Freeza would present some difficulties (partially due to Gohan's lack of tactical experience), he should have enough power to stalemate Freeza at the very least.dragonball0900 wrote:I have one.
Gohan from Android Saga vs 4th Form Frieza. No 50% or 100% allowed. This is the Frieza who killed Vegeta and from the beginning of the fight with Goku. Frieza is available to use no hands too.
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Yeah. I have Frieza winning, but not a one shot obviously, it's more like putting
Vegeta (Frieza Saga) < Goku (Frieza Saga) < Frieza Supressed < Gohan <= Frieza Less Suppressed < Frieza 50%
He was less supressed when battling with no hands against Goku. If Gohan does get angry, he might surpass even Frieza's 50%, but not 100%
I have Base Saiyans in the Android saga much stronger than Gohan. Given the difference there was between Vegeta and Gohan (a 2-3 millions vs 200K) then I suppose the difference could have gotten smaller since Gohan was training with Piccolo and Goku. Vegeta training in heavy gravity would make the difference to reduce not that much though.
Vegeta (Frieza Saga) < Goku (Frieza Saga) < Frieza Supressed < Gohan <= Frieza Less Suppressed < Frieza 50%
He was less supressed when battling with no hands against Goku. If Gohan does get angry, he might surpass even Frieza's 50%, but not 100%
I have Base Saiyans in the Android saga much stronger than Gohan. Given the difference there was between Vegeta and Gohan (a 2-3 millions vs 200K) then I suppose the difference could have gotten smaller since Gohan was training with Piccolo and Goku. Vegeta training in heavy gravity would make the difference to reduce not that much though.
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139 was Roshi's resting state. His serious state is around 180 and his buff form is above that. According to Toriyama Roshi was always as strong as he was in RoF. Chiatzu could possibly win with his special powers, but I doubt he could take buff Roshi in h2h combat.DanielSSJ wrote:So even after all those years, Chiaotzu never got beyond a battle power of 139?dragon boss z wrote:Roshi wins both of these and he may not even need to be unlocked by Guru.
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Piccolo one-shots all of them. Probably dr gero will need 2 shots again.Angelus wrote:Initial #19 and #20 VS Piccolo (no weighted clothing on), Base Gohan, Yamcha, Tien, Krillin, Chiaotzu
[All Androids Saga, Pre-Kami Fusion. No Tribeam/Kienzan/Solar Flare. Absorbing allowed]
Already answered chiaotzu matches.
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SSBlue Nappa vs 17 and 18.
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He has a power level of 60,000 or something or was it anove that?Hellspawn28 wrote:Who is the strongest DB character that Meliodas from Seven Deadly Sins can defeat?
In any case Captain Ginyu is where he stops based on his power level...





