"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Neon Z]

Bulma is nowhere to be seen, and there's no way they will leave the most famous female character out of a major arc. Maybe she's busy taking care of Bra.

Bulma had very small roles in the Saiyan and Buu Saga from DBZ. I feel like she actually has had a more constant presence through Super than at any other point of the franchise (unless you count the very first DB arc by itself). So, it's wouldn't be that odd if she were sidelined for once.

[ekrolo2]

Eh, every time Piccolo's gotten propped up he loses. Has he even won a fight? All his power ups in Z amounted to nothing. Piccolo was only useful in the saiyan arc. Gohan's beat down in the boo arc actually did good for his character imo. He was persistent until the end, unlike the Cell arc (although that was an anomaly anyways).

As opposed to what, Gohan's myriad of propped up moments of GRR! I'M ANGRY NOW! amounting to nothing? Literally the only time Gohan managed to contribute which was him beating Vegeta and Cell was done solely thanks to outside help, have him fight by himself and he's just as useless as Piccolo.

[namekiansaiyan]

Still treated better than Piccolo.

I don't know, Gohan's been getting propped up then punked a lot for a while now. I think his complete dismissal in the Boo arc outstrips even his later punking in Super and all of Piccolo's.

Eh, every time Piccolo's gotten propped up he loses. Has he even won a fight? All his power ups in Z amounted to nothing. Piccolo was only useful in the saiyan arc. Gohan's beat down in the boo arc actually did good for his character imo. He was persistent until the end, unlike the Cell arc (although that was an anomaly anyways).

Basically everyone who gets a power up gets beaten eventually or their would be no show really.

You disrespect the character who trained and saved your favourite characters butt many times. Throughout Super your hopes have been on Piccolo training Gohan.

We actually want to see characters who can fight in an intersting and skillful way and not just someone who only fights angry or arrogantly.

[Araki]

Maybe Yamcha's voice actor is busy elsewhere or not that interested in DB anymore, and that's the reason he only appears on stand alone episodes. It's odd that he get sidelined like that.

Lol no, Furuya is very active and incredibly enthusiastic over his main roles, including Yamcha. He just recorded a commentary track for the last episode, for Christ's sake.

It's not odd for Yamcha to be sidelined when by the time of the Buu arc he had retired already. He was reduced to a spectator along the likes of Chichi and Oolong. Sure Mutenroshi should stay away too, but as others said, we don't know his role yet. At the very least Roshi ia still a martial artist, i guess.

[Anime Kitten]

You play video games after school, and what do you miss? Apologies if I repeat anything here, but I didn't want to catch up on literally over 20 pages.

Oh, man. #17! And all the Z-Fighters! #18 looks good, too. Too bad Goku and Vegeta didn't switch into their ROF outfits. Looks to be likely that we'll never see them again. So hyped to hear more info!

[Will]

Eh, every time Piccolo's gotten propped up he loses. Has he even won a fight? All his power ups in Z amounted to nothing. Piccolo was only useful in the saiyan arc. Gohan's beat down in the boo arc actually did good for his character imo. He was persistent until the end, unlike the Cell arc (although that was an anomaly anyways).

As opposed to what, Gohan's myriad of propped up moments of GRR! I'M ANGRY NOW! amounting to nothing? Literally the only time Gohan managed to contribute which was him beating Vegeta and Cell was done solely thanks to outside help, have him fight by himself and he's just as useless as Piccolo.

Most of the fight are win with outside help in Dragon Ball.

Gohan an Piccolo are both good character, that had awesome moment in the entire franchise, I don't see the point of criticize one ficitonal character to make the other fictional character look good.

[kinisking]

Eh, every time Piccolo's gotten propped up he loses. Has he even won a fight? All his power ups in Z amounted to nothing. Piccolo was only useful in the saiyan arc. Gohan's beat down in the boo arc actually did good for his character imo. He was persistent until the end, unlike the Cell arc (although that was an anomaly anyways).

As opposed to what, Gohan's myriad of propped up moments of GRR! I'M ANGRY NOW! amounting to nothing? Literally the only time Gohan managed to contribute which was him beating Vegeta and Cell was done solely thanks to outside help, have him fight by himself and he's just as useless as Piccolo.

Gohan saved Goku's life in the saiyan saga. He was the one who personally chose to go back and help him. Not krillin, Gohan. He distracted Vegeta while Krillin got information about the spirit bomb and was the one who pushed the spirit bomb back at Vegeta. He was also the one to give him the final blow as an Oozaru whether it was on accident or not.

In the Namek saga he saved Vegeta's life. Gohan also saved Dende's life. If it weren't for him, there would be no dragonballs in the cell or boo saga.

Cell saga Gohan saves piccolo's ass from android 20. Gohan wouldn't have needed outside help if it weren't for him saving Vegeta's ass... again.

Boo saga he didn't do much

Gohan an Piccolo are both good character, that had awesome moment in the entire franchise, I don't see the point of criticize one ficitonal character to make the other fictional character look good.

You're completely right. He insulted my favorite character so I went for his. It was immature of me and I'll end this now.

[ekrolo2]

As opposed to what, Gohan's myriad of propped up moments of GRR! I'M ANGRY NOW! amounting to nothing? Literally the only time Gohan managed to contribute which was him beating Vegeta and Cell was done solely thanks to outside help, have him fight by himself and he's just as useless as Piccolo.

Most of the fight are win with outside help in Dragon Ball.

Gohan an Piccolo are both good character, that had awesome moment in the entire franchise, I don't see the point of criticize one ficitonal character to make the other fictional character look good.[/quote]
Both of them are largely useless characters, the only reason I find Piccolo very slightly more appealing is because of some stupid "cool factor" working in his favor but honestly, he might as well have stayed dead after the Saiyan arc. He's not like Vegeta who's pretty good death at the hands of Freeza and subsequent revival lead to some interesting developments for him down the line that you'd miss out on by keeping him dead post-Namek.

Gohan saved Goku's life in the saiyan saga. He was the one who personally chose to go back and help him. Not krillin, Gohan. He distracted Vegeta while Krillin got information about the spirit bomb and was the one who pushed the spirit bomb back at Vegeta. He was also the one to give him the final blow as an Oozaru whether it was on accident or not.

In the Namek saga he saved Vegeta's life. Gohan also saved Dende's life. If it weren't for him, there would be no dragonballs in the cell or boo saga.

Cell saga Gohan saves piccolo's ass from android 20. Gohan wouldn't have needed outside help if it weren't for him saving Vegeta's ass... again.

Boo saga he didn't do much

So, most of the stuff Gohan has ever done is thanks to outside help minus Dende? I don't even count Android 20 as him absorbing Piccolo's power would amount to fuck all since Vegeta would kill him anyway. Both Gohan and Piccolo can and probably should be out of the picture by this point, they'll never amount to anything and bringing them back only to highlight how completely throwaway they are in the grand scheme of the writing does them little to no favors.

[namekiansaiyan]

Eh, every time Piccolo's gotten propped up he loses. Has he even won a fight? All his power ups in Z amounted to nothing. Piccolo was only useful in the saiyan arc. Gohan's beat down in the boo arc actually did good for his character imo. He was persistent until the end, unlike the Cell arc (although that was an anomaly anyways).

As opposed to what, Gohan's myriad of propped up moments of GRR! I'M ANGRY NOW! amounting to nothing? Literally the only time Gohan managed to contribute which was him beating Vegeta and Cell was done solely thanks to outside help, have him fight by himself and he's just as useless as Piccolo.

Most of the fight are win with outside help in Dragon Ball.

Gohan an Piccolo are both good character, that had awesome moment in the entire franchise, I don't see the point of criticize one ficitonal character to make the other fictional character look good.

This is what happens when characters get sidelined. They dont want to see other sidelined characters to become relevant before their favourite sidelined character does.

There are definitely little wars like this around the Internet.

[Doctor.]

Both of them are largely useless characters, the only reason I find Piccolo very slightly more appealing is because of some stupid "cool factor" working in his favor but honestly, he might as well have stayed dead after the Saiyan arc. He's not like Vegeta who's pretty good death at the hands of Freeza and subsequent revival lead to some interesting developments for him down the line that you'd miss out on by keeping him dead post-Namek.

This is a completely different topic, but I actually think Piccolo is one of the few characters in DB who don't add anything negative to the story by staying alive. Him, Yamcha too I guess, Gohan and the kids. Goku, Vegeta, Tenshinhan, Chaozu and Roshi should have all died a long time ago and stayed dead. Undecided on Kuririn.

[kinisking]

As opposed to what, Gohan's myriad of propped up moments of GRR! I'M ANGRY NOW! amounting to nothing? Literally the only time Gohan managed to contribute which was him beating Vegeta and Cell was done solely thanks to outside help, have him fight by himself and he's just as useless as Piccolo.

Most of the fight are win with outside help in Dragon Ball.

Gohan an Piccolo are both good character, that had awesome moment in the entire franchise, I don't see the point of criticize one ficitonal character to make the other fictional character look good.

This is what happens when characters get sidelined. They dont want to see other sidelined characters to become relevant before their favourite sidelined character does.

There are definitely little wars like this around the Internet.

That's not true at all. If Piccolo became relevant I wouldn't be upset at that fact at all. I'd still want Gohan to be relevant, but I wouldn't root against Piccolo at all. I loved the FT arc after all.

Both of them are largely useless characters, the only reason I find Piccolo very slightly more appealing is because of some stupid "cool factor" working in his favor but honestly, he might as well have stayed dead after the Saiyan arc. He's not like Vegeta who's pretty good death at the hands of Freeza and subsequent revival lead to some interesting developments for him down the line that you'd miss out on by keeping him dead post-Namek.

This is a completely different topic, but I actually think Piccolo is one of the few characters in DB who don't add anything negative to the story by staying alive. Him, Yamcha too I guess, Gohan and the kids. Goku, Vegeta, Tenshinhan, Chaozu and Roshi should have all died a long time ago and stayed dead. Undecided on Kuririn.

....So who do you want alive?

[namekiansaiyan]

Most of the fight are win with outside help in Dragon Ball.

Gohan an Piccolo are both good character, that had awesome moment in the entire franchise, I don't see the point of criticize one ficitonal character to make the other fictional character look good.

This is what happens when characters get sidelined. They dont want to see other sidelined characters to become relevant before their favourite sidelined character does.

There are definitely little wars like this around the Internet.

That's not true at all. If Piccolo became relevant I wouldn't be upset at that fact at all. I'd still want Gohan to be relevant, but I wouldn't root against Piccolo at all. I loved the FT arc after all.

Both of them are largely useless characters, the only reason I find Piccolo very slightly more appealing is because of some stupid "cool factor" working in his favor but honestly, he might as well have stayed dead after the Saiyan arc. He's not like Vegeta who's pretty good death at the hands of Freeza and subsequent revival lead to some interesting developments for him down the line that you'd miss out on by keeping him dead post-Namek.

This is a completely different topic, but I actually think Piccolo is one of the few characters in DB who don't add anything negative to the story by staying alive. Him, Yamcha too I guess, Gohan and the kids. Goku, Vegeta, Tenshinhan, Chaozu and Roshi should have all died a long time ago and stayed dead. Undecided on Kuririn.

....So who do you want alive?

I am just saying what I have seen around the internet and especially recently the bashing of characters seems to have increased ten fold for some reason.

[Doctor.]

....So who do you want alive?

I said so already. Piccolo, Gohan, the kids, and Yamcha. Well, anyone but Goku, Vegeta, Roshi, Tenshinhan and Chaozu.

[kinisking]

....So who do you want alive?

I said so already. Piccolo, Gohan, the kids, and Yamcha.

Oh, I completely misread. My bad.

[ekrolo2]

....So who do you want alive?

I said so already. Piccolo, Gohan, the kids, and Yamcha. Well, anyone but Goku, Vegeta, Roshi, Tenshinhan and Chaozu.

I'd add Krillin to the list of dead people, I like the guy but I think him going out to spur Goku's transformation into an SS was more than a good enough way to send him off. He'd certainly go out as the Earthling with the best run of the whole lot.

[Doctor.]

....So who do you want alive?

I said so already. Piccolo, Gohan, the kids, and Yamcha. Well, anyone but Goku, Vegeta, Roshi, Tenshinhan and Chaozu.

I'd add Krillin to the list of dead people, I like the guy but I think him going out to spur Goku's transformation into an SS was more than a good enough way to send him off. He'd certainly go out as the Earthling with the best run of the whole lot.

The only thing leaving me undecided on him is the fact that he's the only character (well, besides Gohan, I guess) whose goal was just to get a happy life and get married. I feel like the guy deserves to get old and die like a normal human would, even if I do agree that it would give the SS transformation more meaning if he had stayed dead.

[precita]

Piccolo is the most iconic character in DBZ outside the Saiyans. People are crazy to expect him to sit out forever.

[ekrolo2]

I said so already. Piccolo, Gohan, the kids, and Yamcha. Well, anyone but Goku, Vegeta, Roshi, Tenshinhan and Chaozu.

I'd add Krillin to the list of dead people, I like the guy but I think him going out to spur Goku's transformation into an SS was more than a good enough way to send him off. He'd certainly go out as the Earthling with the best run of the whole lot.

The only thing leaving me undecided on him is the fact that he's the only character (well, besides Gohan, I guess) whose goal was just to get a happy life and get married. I feel like the guy deserves to get old and die like a normal human would, even if I do agree that it would give the SS transformation more meaning if he had stayed dead.

True, but Toriyama did kind of just randomly make that into his motivation after writing Yamcha as the guy who wanted the happy life for a while there.

[kinisking]

Personally, I wouldn't want any characters to die if I could help it. But, if I had to choose the best time for characters to die it would be Piccolo in the saiyan arc, Vegeta in the Boo arc, Goku in the Cell arc, Krillin in the Freeza arc because they'd all truly have had meaning. The rest had throwaway deaths that felt put in just for the sake of death.

Piccolo is the most iconic character in DBZ outside the Saiyans. People are crazy to expect him to sit out forever.

Even if I can give him shit sometimes, he's still a pretty decent character. I'd enjoy him getting some screentime. Plus, he's definitely getting a power up. It's apparent Super wants to appeal to as much people as possible. Which is a good thing imo.

[Scarlet Spider]

I want Goten and Trunks to be taller in this. I want them to be Cell games Gohan height. Keep their designs the same, I don't care, just make them taller. Please.