The Biggest Sin of the "Future" Trunks Arc

[HeroR]

Wouldn't call the 'sins', more like minor gripes:

- Goku Black and Future Zamasu fusing. I like them better as individuals and it was unique twist on the all-powerful final villain we had through the series.

- None of Goku Black's personality traits were in Merged Zamasu. He was like a amp up version of Future Zamasu. He almost nothing from Black except his mood-swings.

- The unexplained Spirit Bomb. Narratively, I love what it represent it felt so fitting. But where did it come from? Did Trunks formed it unconsciously?

- Goku forgetting the seal annoys me, but I am more annoyed that fanbase blames solely Goku for it and not Roshi who never gave it to him.

[Lord Beerus]

Losing Goku Black. That guy was so damn entertaining as an antagonist and an integral part of what the arc so amazing.

Other grips I had were:
- The lack of explanation of what Future Trunks new transformation was
- The Genki Dama sword scene

- Goku forgetting the seal annoys me, but I am more annoyed that fanbase blames solely Goku for it and not Roshi who never gave it to him.

This really annoyed me to. Not the moment Goku forgot the seal, well, actually, yeah that did annoy me , but with how quick the fanbase solely blamed Goku for it and not even mentioning how Roshi could have travel to Goku's house and given it to him. There are two sides of the coin to this. Both Goku and Roshi are at fault for that moment.

[omaro34]

Losing Gokû Black to the fusion that resulted in Merged Zamasu. I enjoyed Gokû Black as a villain so much more than their fusion.

I agree. Goku Black himself was a much more interesting villain than merged Zamasu. Nozawa's performance was absolutely stellar. The scene where he clapped his hands smirking and mocking at Vegeta then telling him he was the "appetizer" was a badass Goku Black moment.

[Thanos6]

Did Future Trunks and Goten ever meet? At all? Because if not, that is one TREMENDOUS missed opportunity.

He met Videl, he met Pan, he met 18 and saw she wasn't a monster like the one he was familiar with, but he doesn't mean his other self's best friend, and Gohan's younger brother? Fans have been waiting to see that for decades!

[omaro34]

This isn't a big sin but I feel it needs to be pointed out: What on earth happened to Majin Buu? He's the strongest Z fighter after Goku and Vegeta (not counting FT). I don't recall him making not even a cameo the entire Arc.

[Faisal Shourov]

I can only say one aspect? Damn...

Probably the structure of the story and unfilled gaps in between. It really felt like a rushed product.

TBH if it was any longer people would've complained about dragging on like dbz. I would take a rushed product over 80 episode arc anyday. Our timespan is very limited nowadays unlike back in the day (no smartphone, social media, playstation online, youtube etc). Nobody has patience for long arc

[Mnich]

Did Future Trunks and Goten ever meet? At all? Because if not, that is one TREMENDOUS missed opportunity.

He met Videl, he met Pan, he met 18 and saw she wasn't a monster like the one he was familiar with, but he doesn't mean his other self's best friend, and Gohan's younger brother? Fans have been waiting to see that for decades!

Oh boy, have you seen episode 67? xd

Just to warn you - don't expect too much.

[Fionordequester]

Oh boy, have you seen episode 67? xd

Just to warn you - Be prepared to either love it, or hate it

I'd say that's more accurate. I personally loved it, and that's as a guy who hated Episode 66.

[Thanos6]

Nope, I haven't been watching the series at all to be honest, just reading recap summaries. So if Mirai Trunks and Goten did meet, let me know what happened? Don't worry about spoiling it for me.

[Nano]

The arc butchered the laws of time travel, and pissed on the corpse at the very end.

Lol qft!

[sintzu]

Another issue I have is that there isn't much going on compared to the manga's original arcs.

I think there should've been more development for everyone and more build up to the important moments.

[Beerus-sama]

Its hard for me choose one sin as the "Biggest sin". I have two in mind:

- Black and Zamasu's fusion, it took every fun of watching Black and Zamasu's duo, it was fun and interesting how they were using Zamasu's inmortality to beat Goku and Vegeta. Also their relationship was entertaining
Merged Zamasu by the other hand, wasn't fun as he was just standing in the air throwing uninteresting attacks that didn't affect the heroes to the point of making a retreat. It didn't change the feeling when he became a monster either

- Trunks strength and abilities coming from nowhere. He didn't had his own special moves, just borrowed the ones from his father and the genkidama We didn't see how did he earned them, he just happened to use them because he could. Why did he needed Goku and Vegeta again?

[Akyon]

Goku's forgetfulness was absolutely ridiculous. Ignoring the seal he also forgot; he also forgot the senzu beans leaving them in the bathroom, and then forgot to take the pot out the time machine.

It does feel like it IS Goku's fault more than Roshi's however.
Goku has Instant Transmission, it's shown as a repeating character flaw on Goku's part in this arc and Roshi is generally well prepared for all his own character flaws. He said he was going to go in and make the talisman as Goku thanked him. He then phones up Bulma's house upon discovering the talisman hasn't been taken and states "You forgot something important".
At this point I'm half expecting Goku to have instantly forgotten what Roshi said about needing the Talisman mere seconds after the old man said it and IT off with the pot as soon as he learnt the Mafuba.

[toadma]

Not going into Zamasu's background a bit of how he started hating mortals before meeting Goku. Forcing the whole MaixTrunks shipping instead of focusing on the story.Not bringing Future Gohan back while the villain being his "father" and having a big role in Trunks' life.Having made that un creative fusion making the whole mystery with Black and the super saiyan rose use less.Retconning the whole potara fusion only an hour making it useless and not giving Vegito much screentime and that horrible ending.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I can only say one aspect? Damn...

Probably the structure of the story and unfilled gaps in between. It really felt like a rushed product.

TBH if it was any longer people would've complained about dragging on like dbz. I would take a rushed product over 80 episode arc anyday. Our timespan is very limited nowadays unlike back in the day (no smartphone, social media, playstation online, youtube etc). Nobody has patience for long arc

Hunter x Hunter Chimera Ant Arc is 60 or so episodes I believe and doesnt have ANY pacing problems. They could write an arc for Super at 30 and explain more.

[SsjCookie]

Goku's forgetfulness was absolutely ridiculous. Ignoring the seal he also forgot; he also forgot the senzu beans leaving them in the bathroom, and then forgot to take the pot out the time machine.

This!
I don't think Goku realizes his stupidity caused Trunks to lose everything.
And the fact that the destruction of Trunk's time line was downplayed like it was not a big deal.

And Gohan being absolutely useless in this arc.
Shame on him.

[FireFly]

The Genkidama sword and Mafuba related asspulls. The pointless retcon of the Potara Fusion that makes the guy who introduced the concept to Goku look like a fucking idiot.

There are other flaws but those stood out the most for me.

[SaiyanZ]

The arc in itself is a sin to Dragon Ball. Everything from character motivations to asspulls and retcons can suck a big fat one.

[UltimateHammerBro]

Even though I enjoyed the arc as a whole, I didn't like the idea of having Trunks and Mai end up in that alternate timeline. I feel Goku could have bribed Zeno to rewind time à la Wiss, then eliminate Black... I'm not sure of the details, but I bet that they could have thought of a way better outcome for them.

I also wonder what their lives in the new timeline will be. He'll be the even darker and edgier version of Future Trunks... basically Future Future Trunks