Although it's correct that he did make the same mistake, I would still say his character developed slightly.ABED wrote:And made the same mistake.He pushed his pride aside and trained for once in his life, not the best example.
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But not fundamentally and it didn't make him more interesting. I'm neither for nor against development, it all depends. There are times where I think it's necessary, like Scully eventually dropping her skepticism after everything she saw over the years, but Goku doesn't fall into that category.kinisking wrote:Although it's correct that he did make the same mistake, I would still say his character developed slightly.ABED wrote:And made the same mistake.He pushed his pride aside and trained for once in his life, not the best example.
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I prefer Future Trunks with blue hair. While I don't care for the retcon, I think it's a very cool look for him. Of course, that doesn't mean I dislike his purple hair.
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I also think he looks better with the blue hair. I still prefer the purple hair because it's more unique and I associate it with him though.Anime Kitten wrote:I prefer Future Trunks with blue hair. While I don't care for the retcon, I think it's a very cool look for him. Of course, that doesn't mean I dislike his purple hair.
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It was never about pride for Freeza. It was laziness. And he made the same mistake anyway. That was hardly a significant personal development, his decision to try and grow stronger was made pretty casually. That's not really significant character development, Freeza was the exact same person in RF that he was 20 years ago.Doctor. wrote:He pushed his pride aside and trained for once in his life, not the best example.nickzambuto wrote:Easy. Freeza.
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I never really got behind this argument. I mean if you were the best at something, never defeated and never practiced a day in your life, then why does that constitute as lazy? I would be more inclined to agree if Freeza knew there were tons of people out there who could threaten him and he still chose not to train. From what RoF implies he's only aware of 2.nickzambuto wrote:Doctor. wrote: It was never about pride for Freeza. It was laziness.
But then again the dude literally moves around with a hover chair when he can fly at supersonic speeds. (inb4 lightspeed debate and character feats comparisons).
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But having Beerus bossing him around, and him being okay with it kind of seems to go against Freeza's character. For someone who takes pride in calling himself "the strongest in the universe", it seems kind of odd that Freeza apparently didn't mind having to play second banana to the God of Destruction.MarCas92 wrote:I never really got behind this argument. I mean if you were the best at something, never defeated and never practiced a day in your life, then why does that constitute as lazy? I would be more inclined to agree if Freeza knew there were tons of people out there who could threaten him and he still chose not to train. From what RoF implies he's only aware of 2.nickzambuto wrote:Doctor. wrote: It was never about pride for Freeza. It was laziness.
But then again the dude literally moves around with a hover chair when he can fly at supersonic speeds. (inb4 lightspeed debate and character feats comparisons).
Considering that just 4 months of training was apparently all it took for Freeza to become significantly more powerful than Majin Boo, it seems a little weird that he never decided to train sooner and more frequently. If he did, it seems like he possibly could've rivaled Beerus.
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Here goes. Feel free to correct me if any aren't actually unpopular.
- Super Saiyan 2 Goku is the coolest Goku in my opinion, and the form itself is my favorite.
- Whis is quite boring (note that I've only seen Battle of Gods and played Xenoverse and XV2).
- GT isn't as bad as people say.
- Omni-King (forgot how to spell his name correctly) has an uninteresting design.
- I kind of like Black's Xenoverse 2 dub voice, as well as Hit's.
...well, that's good for now.
- Super Saiyan 2 Goku is the coolest Goku in my opinion, and the form itself is my favorite.
- Whis is quite boring (note that I've only seen Battle of Gods and played Xenoverse and XV2).
- GT isn't as bad as people say.
- Omni-King (forgot how to spell his name correctly) has an uninteresting design.
- I kind of like Black's Xenoverse 2 dub voice, as well as Hit's.
...well, that's good for now.
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I'm of the opposite opinion.Anime Kitten wrote:I prefer Future Trunks with blue hair. While I don't care for the retcon, I think it's a very cool look for him. Of course, that doesn't mean I dislike his purple hair.
The purple/lavender hair color gave a visual representation of Trunks's hybrid genotype.
Given that I still have not read any official explanation as to why his hair is now blue, it should be classified as more of a plot-hole than a retcon.
A retcon at least tries to explain a change.
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That's a pretty popular opinion. I remember The Monkey King had a pretty great rant about.MatrixChap wrote:Here goes. Feel free to correct me if any aren't actually unpopular.
- Super Saiyan 2 Goku is the coolest Goku in my opinion, and the form itself is my favorite.
- Whis is quite boring (note that I've only seen Battle of Gods and played Xenoverse and XV2).
- GT isn't as bad as people say.
- Omni-King (forgot how to spell his name correctly) has an uninteresting design.
- I kind of like Black's Xenoverse 2 dub voice, as well as Hit's.
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Freeza should've been stronger in Resurrection 'F'. As intense as his training was (literally pulling Tagoma apart), and considering how strong he was at birth, he logically should've reached the realm of the gods in, at most, half the time he did in ROF.
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Sarcasm?Anime Kitten wrote:Freeza should've been stronger in Resurrection 'F'. As intense as his training was (literally pulling Tagoma apart), and considering how strong he was at birth, he logically should've reached the realm of the gods in, at most, half the time he did in ROF.
It's clear freeza should have surpassed berrus by looking at videos roshi did for a min..
He was given four months to nerf him..
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I don't care what colour Trunks's hair is, my only problem with it is... Why? Did Toriyama just like Trunks having blue hair?Anime Kitten wrote:I prefer Future Trunks with blue hair. While I don't care for the retcon, I think it's a very cool look for him. Of course, that doesn't mean I dislike his purple hair.
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I've never understood how this made sense to people. Blue + black just equals darker blue.Esfír Dedragón wrote: The purple/lavender hair color gave a visual representation of Trunks's hybrid genotype.
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Because he's lazy.WittyUsername wrote:But having Beerus bossing him around, and him being okay with it kind of seems to go against Freeza's character. For someone who takes pride in calling himself "the strongest in the universe", it seems kind of odd that Freeza apparently didn't mind having to play second banana to the God of Destruction.MarCas92 wrote:I never really got behind this argument. I mean if you were the best at something, never defeated and never practiced a day in your life, then why does that constitute as lazy? I would be more inclined to agree if Freeza knew there were tons of people out there who could threaten him and he still chose not to train. From what RoF implies he's only aware of 2.nickzambuto wrote:
But then again the dude literally moves around with a hover chair when he can fly at supersonic speeds. (inb4 lightspeed debate and character feats comparisons).
Considering that just 4 months of training was apparently all it took for Freeza to become significantly more powerful than Majin Boo, it seems a little weird that he never decided to train sooner and more frequently. If he did, it seems like he possibly could've rivaled Beerus.
Freeza was angered and bitter over Beerus' power, but probably figured "well the guy is asleep most of the time so it's not like I'll really have to deal with him much..." Any excuse to keep from doing work. The whole Namek conflict could have been resolved in seconds if he just got out of his chair and handled business himself, but instead he ordered all of his henchman to take care of things and watch them fail one by one, giving his enemies the ladder they needed to slowly reach him, and even went so far as to call the Ginyu Force to the planet, just so he wouldn't have to do anything.
This is why Toriyama stated Freeza could "never" surpass the God of Destruction. Resurrection 'F' focused on the flaws of the heroes' fighting styles, and as prodigious as Freeza's power was, he just wasn't a true warrior, so he'll never ever be able to reach that full potential. As Vegeta said, the moment he achieved his Golden form, he went straight to Earth. He didn't even bother testing it out much, let alone mastering it. That's laziness.
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Perhaps he didn't believe that training to defeat someone known as "The God of Destruction" would bear fruit. Plus, it's not as if Freeza had any idea just how strong he'd get ahead of time.WittyUsername wrote:But having Beerus bossing him around, and him being okay with it kind of seems to go against Freeza's character. For someone who takes pride in calling himself "the strongest in the universe", it seems kind of odd that Freeza apparently didn't mind having to play second banana to the God of Destruction.MarCas92 wrote:I never really got behind this argument. I mean if you were the best at something, never defeated and never practiced a day in your life, then why does that constitute as lazy? I would be more inclined to agree if Freeza knew there were tons of people out there who could threaten him and he still chose not to train. From what RoF implies he's only aware of 2.nickzambuto wrote:
But then again the dude literally moves around with a hover chair when he can fly at supersonic speeds. (inb4 lightspeed debate and character feats comparisons).
Considering that just 4 months of training was apparently all it took for Freeza to become significantly more powerful than Majin Boo, it seems a little weird that he never decided to train sooner and more frequently. If he did, it seems like he possibly could've rivaled Beerus.
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Whether you've never been defeated or not, not practicing is lazy. Being unwilling to put effort or work in fits the definition of "lazy".MarCas92 wrote:I never really got behind this argument. I mean if you were the best at something, never defeated and never practiced a day in your life, then why does that constitute as lazy? I would be more inclined to agree if Freeza knew there were tons of people out there who could threaten him and he still chose not to train. From what RoF implies he's only aware of 2.nickzambuto wrote:Doctor. wrote: It was never about pride for Freeza. It was laziness.
But then again the dude literally moves around with a hover chair when he can fly at supersonic speeds. (inb4 lightspeed debate and character feats comparisons).
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Rock the dragon not that bad intro. It's kinda catchy and cheesy and it works.
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But Bluma's hair is purple in the manga, so it makes sense there. Why in the anime they didn't have Trunk's have hair blue from the get go or just keep Bluma's hair purple (Toriyama was consistently drawing hair with it), is a question that will probably never get an answer to.nite_jay wrote:I've never understood how this made sense to people. Blue + black just equals darker blue.Esfír Dedragón wrote: The purple/lavender hair color gave a visual representation of Trunks's hybrid genotype.
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In the original manga, Bulma's hair is still usually blue. Although it occasionally switches to purple, and once red when Bulma was pissed at Yamcha.Soppa Saia People wrote:But Bluma's hair is purple in the manga
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