"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Noah]

There is also a small chance U10 Team has Black in their team

How

He is right. 0% is a very small chance.

Not at all, remember that Trunks and his pals had travelled back and forth through the time, thus creating other timelines that Black could still be alive

[Cetra]

How

He is right. 0% is a very small chance.

Not at all, remember that Trunk and his pals had travelled back and forth through the time, thus creating other timelines that Black could still alive

And what has that to do with THIS timeline? Nothing.

[perucho1990]

Not at all, remember that Trunk and his pals had travelled back and forth through the time, thus creating other timelines that Black could still be alive

Yeah
Besides, Black never lost in the anime, and having him getting beaten in the Omniverse Tournment would be made a big deal.

Some fans want to see Black vs Hit in the Omniverse Tournament.

[DragonHermit]

How about you learn what a tournament is before you start calling other people morons.

Thank you Sherlock for your brilliance. I didn't know what a tournament is.

If you didn't notice I was referring to plot structure. Even when it's not a technical tournament, it's the same b.s.:

- No adventure
- No plot other than them having to beat someone
- The entire story takes place in one spot, apart from the ending where they always end up outside of the planet's atmosphere
- The entire story is just them beating someone
- When someone loses, someone else jumps in "the ring" to beat the new guy

That is the structure they have followed for 3/4 arcs, and it's nonsense that they'll keep doing this.

[Anime Kitten]

For what it's worth, Beerus (a god) killed Zamasu (a god) by Whis' request, which I think was a pretty clear indication that Black isn't alive anymore. Sure, he has the Time Ring, but if they were going to keep him around, I would assume they'd have foreshadowed it by now.

Though I could be wrong.

[Noah]

And what has that to do with THIS timeline? Nothing.

That it seems Time Rings are U10 only items, so is not that impossible to U10 Hakaishin lack the morals to recruit a guy that contributed to his death in the past just for the sake of winning (surviving)

[HeroR]

Not at all, remember that Trunks and his pals had travelled back and forth through the time, thus creating other timelines that Black could still be alive

The only other timeline with Black in it was the Time Ring Beerus created. And since Whis went out of his way to created a timeline where Future Beerus kills Black and take out Future Zamasu, why would they invite him to a tournament? And why would Black want to be in a tournament with a bunch of filthy mortals?

[Ki Breaker]

And what has that to do with THIS timeline? Nothing.

That it seems Time Rings are U10 only items, so is not that impossible to U10 Hakaishin lack the morals to recruit a guy that contributed to his death in the past just for the sake of winning (surviving)

Very far fetched, but an interesting idea..
Won't happen most likely, they don't usually do very complex things and timeline is really messed up as of now, having another black will only add to the confusion

[Araki]

Oh my god, Black is the new Brolly.

..well, at least he was a good character.

[Noah]

The only other timeline with Black in it was the Time Ring Beerus created. And since Whis went out of his way to created a timeline where Future Beerus kills Black and take out Future Zamasu, why would they invite him to a tournament? And why would Black want to be in a tournament with a bunch of filthy mortals?

Yes, but we don't know about the timelines that were possibly created by the retreat travels made by Trunks, Goku and Vegeta, there's a possibility of one or two timelines that Black is still alive.

Black has a Saiyan body he would like to test his limits with the strongest of each universe and besides the U10 Hakaishin could keep him in check if he tries something funny.

[Sandubadear]

And what has that to do with THIS timeline? Nothing.

That it seems Time Rings are U10 only items, so is not that impossible to U10 Hakaishin lack the morals to recruit a guy that contributed to his death in the past just for the sake of winning (surviving)

It's implied all Kaioshins have Time Rings, not just U10.

[Hellspawn28]

I agree with that, as it would be pretty lame if he didn't put some effort to design the Gods from other universes

I know this [spoiler][/spoiler] is fan made, but the point is that all the gods looks different from each other

I'm a fan of those desgins. Sure some of them don't fit that well in the DB world, but I do think the Demon God behind Beerus, the Bull God (His colors are similar to Super #13), the Green Dragon looking God, the Pig God and the guy behind the Bunny God do fit in the DB world pretty well in my opinion. I think their designs would fit well into the DB world. Not to mention, we haven't had a major demonic character since Janemba. Sure you have the villains from the XV games, but the anime and manga haven't had one since the 90's with Dabra and Janemba.

[Noah]

It's implied all Kaioshins have Time Rings, not just U10.

Where? IIRC it's implied that only Kaioshins can use the Time Rings not each universe has a box with those.

[Legion]

You are cussing a lot today

Probably it's the coffee that I drank today lol

I just hope not all 12 Gods of Destruction are just different types of cats. This being Toriyama though, I wouldn't rule it out.

I agree with that, as it would be pretty lame if he didn't put some effort to design the Gods from other universes

I know this [spoiler][/spoiler] is fan made, but the point is that all the gods looks different from each other

Mmh remember that if Beerus and Champa are twins, then even the other Gods are twins.

Anyway, Black is surely dead. Future Beerus killed him.

[Noah]

Anyway, Black is surely dead. Future Beerus killed him.

Yes, in the timeline that Future Trunks lives now, but I'm talking about the possible timelines created by the back and forth travels made by Trunks and cia

[Kanassa]

I wonder if the Demon realm is one of the universes. Then we'd have demons trying to get revenge on Buu for killing their king.

[Nejishiki]

I wonder if the Demon realm is one of the universes. Then we'd have demons trying to get revenge on Buu for killing their king.

The Demon Realm isn't described as a universe. It's another location that can be visited from the opposite side of the universe where our cast resides.

[Ki Breaker]

I wonder if the Demon realm is one of the universes. Then we'd have demons trying to get revenge on Buu for killing their king.

The Demon Realm isn't described as a universe. It's another location that can be visited from the opposite side of the universe where our cast resides.

What? I did not catch that..
With how we see all 12 universe's structure where is there an opposite side to it..

[Nejishiki]

I wonder if the Demon realm is one of the universes. Then we'd have demons trying to get revenge on Buu for killing their king.

The Demon Realm isn't described as a universe. It's another location that can be visited from the opposite side of the universe where our cast resides.

What? I did not catch that..
With how we see all 12 universe's structure where is there an opposite side to it..

I'm not understanding your inquiry clearly. In the same sense Goku can teleport to the Kaioshin Realm in Universe 7 (you cannot reach that location through normal means), the Demon Realm is described as another location in the universe. It wouldn't be its own separate universe. From where Earth in Universe 7 is, it's located "opposite" from there, whatever that should mean. It's the same as Jaco describing the "center of the universe". These are merely specific points in outer space used for reference.

[Ki Breaker]

The Demon Realm isn't described as a universe. It's another location that can be visited from the opposite side of the universe where our cast resides.

What? I did not catch that..
With how we see all 12 universe's structure where is there an opposite side to it..

I'm not understanding your inquiry clearly. In the same sense Goku can teleport to the Kaioshin Realm in Universe 7 (you cannot reach that location through normal means), the Demon Realm is described as another location in the universe. It wouldn't be its own separate universe. From where Earth in Universe 7 is, it's located "opposite" from there, whatever that should mean. It's the same as Jaco describing the "center of the universe". These are merely specific points in outer space used for reference.

I wanted to know if it existed in the same dimension as that of universe or a different one..
Come to think of it..

Is the check in station located somewhere in the universe or in a different dimension?
Is that eradicated as well when zeno starts a tantrum?
And is the kaioshin realm in a different dimension too because king kai has his own in the check in station dimension..

If kaioshin realm is in a different dimension demon realm should be too.. and dimensions can't really be explained by go in this direction, so opposite to earth dosen't make sense