Why was Gohan the only hybrid to have rage bossts

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Re: Why was Gohan the only hybrid to have rage bossts

Post by precita » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:39 pm

Gohan's personality is very distinct from the other Saiyans. He's probably the most similar to Future Trunks, but we generally just see him brooding all the time.

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Re: Why was Gohan the only hybrid to have rage bossts

Post by kinisking » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:48 pm

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Lord Beerus wrote: Which is why fans cling on to him having his "Rage Boost" ability, because if you take that away from him, he's got nothing unique to offer.
Not true at all. Great Saiyaman, being a scholar, fighting for selfless reasons, his respect for his mentors (Specifically requested outfits that looked like Goku and Piccolo's), and his rage boost ability makes him unique. That's not why fans cling onto the ability at all. They cling on to it because it being a Gohan only trait, because it makes absolutely no sense for other characters to be suddenly rage boosting when they never did it before.

To answer the thread: it's probably Gohan's gentle personality. He didn't like doing harm, so he subconsciously limited his power at all times. Only when angry was he able to truly show how much power he had. Would also explain why he hasn't rage boosted since. He's learnt to use more of his full power.
Being a scholar means jack shit because we never actually see what his job as a scholar is. Fighting for selfess reason and respecting mentors are both traits that all of the cast have, so at this stage, so it's nothing unique to Gohan at all.

I will admit, I get a kick out of his Great Saiyaman gimmick. But that shtick hasn't added anything of worth to the plot other than some cheap laughs. Not that that's a necessarily bad thing.
Your original statement had nothing to do with whether or not the traits he had were relevant to the plot. It was whether or not he had original traits which he does.

Gohan's main reason for fighting is born out of selfless motives unlike the rest of the cast. With the exception of Future trunks but he's not really part of the cast.

Also, Gohan takes his respect for mentors more seriously than the rest of the cast which still makes it unique.

The boo saga wouldn't have went the same way if it weren't for Great Saiyaman. Videl would have had nothing on Gohan, and he would have never went to the tournament. Then, no one else would have either.

Honestly, by the logic you're putting out, none of the characters are unique.
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Re: Why was Gohan the only hybrid to have rage bossts

Post by jplaya2023 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:51 pm

Totamo wrote:Trunks and goten didn't have it and neither did future trunks.
future trunks has them the kids don't because they were stronger than their counterparts at the same age (Except when gohan went ssj2) and they have ssj genes passed down

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Re: Why was Gohan the only hybrid to have rage bossts

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kinisking wrote:
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kinisking wrote: Not true at all. Great Saiyaman, being a scholar, fighting for selfless reasons, his respect for his mentors (Specifically requested outfits that looked like Goku and Piccolo's), and his rage boost ability makes him unique. That's not why fans cling onto the ability at all. They cling on to it because it being a Gohan only trait, because it makes absolutely no sense for other characters to be suddenly rage boosting when they never did it before.

To answer the thread: it's probably Gohan's gentle personality. He didn't like doing harm, so he subconsciously limited his power at all times. Only when angry was he able to truly show how much power he had. Would also explain why he hasn't rage boosted since. He's learnt to use more of his full power.
Being a scholar means jack shit because we never actually see what his job as a scholar is. Fighting for selfless reason and respecting mentors are both traits that all of the cast have, so at this stage, so it's nothing unique to Gohan at all.

I will admit, I get a kick out of his Great Saiyaman gimmick. But that shtick hasn't added anything of worth to the plot other than some cheap laughs. Not that that's a necessarily bad thing.
Your original statement had nothing to do with whether or not the traits he had were relevant to the plot. It was whether or not he had original traits which he does.

Gohan's main reason for fighting is born out of selfless motives unlike the rest of the cast. With the exception of Future trunks but he's not really part of the cast.

Also, Gohan takes his respect for mentors more seriously than the rest of the cast which still makes it unique.

The boo saga wouldn't have went the same way if it weren't for Great Saiyaman. Videl would have had nothing on Gohan, and he would have never went to the tournament. Then, no one else would have either.

Honestly, by the logic you're putting out, none of the characters are unique.
You made a huge assumption there. I'm not saying that none of the characters are unique because they collectively share one or two traits. Plus, I didn't say that the Great Saiyaman trait was something unique. I said I get kick out of it, but I don't find it special. We saw enough parodying of Tokusatsu with the Ginyu Force in the Namek arc. I will admit, I legit forgot that Gohan being the Great Saiyaman lead to him taking part in the tournament. So my bad on that part.

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Re: Why was Gohan the only hybrid to have rage bossts

Post by kinisking » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:58 pm

Lord Beerus wrote: You made a huge assumption there. I'm not saying that none of the characters are unique because they collectively share one or two traits. Plus, I didn't say that the Great Saiyaman trait was something unique. I said I get kick out of it, but I don't find it special. We saw enough parodying of Tokusatsu with the Ginyu Force in the Namek arc. I will admit, I legit forgot that Gohan being the Great Saiyaman lead to him taking part in the tournament. So my bad on that part.
I'm not saying you said that. I'm saying that if you only think a person has unique traits if they're plot relevant, then you're wrong. Gohan is a unique person outside of his rage boosts. Regardless if some of the differences are plot relevant.

Also, you might not think the Great Saiyaman trait is unique (although it totally is, what other dragonball character dresses up as a superhero and fights crime?) but you weren't talking about yourself. You were incorrectly speaking for other fans and there lies the problem.
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Re: Why was Gohan the only hybrid to have rage bossts

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:28 pm

kinisking wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: You made a huge assumption there. I'm not saying that none of the characters are unique because they collectively share one or two traits. Plus, I didn't say that the Great Saiyaman trait was something unique. I said I get kick out of it, but I don't find it special. We saw enough parodying of Tokusatsu with the Ginyu Force in the Namek arc. I will admit, I legit forgot that Gohan being the Great Saiyaman lead to him taking part in the tournament. So my bad on that part.
I'm not saying you said that. I'm saying that if you only think a person has unique traits if they're plot relevant, then you're wrong. Gohan is a unique person outside of his rage boosts. Regardless if some of the differences are plot relevant.

Also, you might not think the Great Saiyaman trait is unique (although it totally is, what other dragonball character dresses up as a superhero and fights crime?) but you weren't talking about yourself. You were incorrectly speaking for other fans and there lies the problem.
Honestly, by the logic you're putting out, none of the characters are unique.
You most certainly inferred that.

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Re: Why was Gohan the only hybrid to have rage bossts

Post by dragonballgeek » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:32 pm

The thing is Goten and Trunks have grown up in an era where their power isn't necessary. They have no reason to rise to the occasion.

It stinks because Goku even said himself that he won't be around forever to protect the world, so he needs to let them have a shot at preparing. It's kinda like they're spoiled and pampered.

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Re: Why was Gohan the only hybrid to have rage bossts

Post by kinisking » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:35 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
kinisking wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: You made a huge assumption there. I'm not saying that none of the characters are unique because they collectively share one or two traits. Plus, I didn't say that the Great Saiyaman trait was something unique. I said I get kick out of it, but I don't find it special. We saw enough parodying of Tokusatsu with the Ginyu Force in the Namek arc. I will admit, I legit forgot that Gohan being the Great Saiyaman lead to him taking part in the tournament. So my bad on that part.
I'm not saying you said that. I'm saying that if you only think a person has unique traits if they're plot relevant, then you're wrong. Gohan is a unique person outside of his rage boosts. Regardless if some of the differences are plot relevant.

Also, you might not think the Great Saiyaman trait is unique (although it totally is, what other dragonball character dresses up as a superhero and fights crime?) but you weren't talking about yourself. You were incorrectly speaking for other fans and there lies the problem.
Honestly, by the logic you're putting out, none of the characters are unique.
You most certainly inferred that.
Again, no I didn't. When I was saying that, I was referencing you implying that a trait has to be relevant to the plot for it to make a person unique. I already clarified that in my last comment.
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