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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Thu May 24, 2007 10:00 pm

I hope we're not all bombarded with so many lists...:?I just want a better fighting system and the character select screen to actually show you what costume you are instead of having to know which Goku out of the six you wanted by heart.
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Post by DNA » Thu May 24, 2007 10:19 pm

character select screen to actually show you what costume you are instead of having to know which Goku out of the six you wanted by heart.
Amen to that! D:

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Post by Xyex » Thu May 24, 2007 11:27 pm

DNA wrote:
character select screen to actually show you what costume you are instead of having to know which Goku out of the six you wanted by heart.
Amen to that! D:
Agreed. That was one thing I loved with Budokai 2 and 3. You could see which costume you were picking. But since they like using the little portrait shots chances are they wont do it this time either. I don't see them making a portrait shot for each costume. >>

And I'm still hoping they call the 'fall out of the sky' for the non-fliers crap. It makes it had to use, and fight against those characters unless you're underwater.
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Post by gohanku » Fri May 25, 2007 2:41 am

Actually the "fall out of the sky crap" is better seeing how it made more sense, I mean, does Yajirobe fly? Does Roshi fly? Does Kid Goku fly? No? So why you complaining? Anyway, I still want to see the Super Oozaru Fist return for Kid Goku or at least a 22nd Budokai Goku, he is so different compared to Kid Goku. He doesn't use the Pole anymore or use Jakken Fist. He could use the Eight Arm Attack too and a fully powered Kamehameha.
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Post by uchiha_boy » Fri May 25, 2007 5:29 am

Xyex wrote:
DNA wrote:
character select screen to actually show you what costume you are instead of having to know which Goku out of the six you wanted by heart.
Amen to that! D:
Agreed. That was one thing I loved with Budokai 2 and 3. You could see which costume you were picking. But since they like using the little portrait shots chances are they wont do it this time either. I don't see them making a portrait shot for each costume.
Same here and speaking of costumes, I finally want to see Gohan (Cell arc) with what he wore in Movie 9, so I'm really hoping that they include it this time.
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Post by Conan the SSJ » Fri May 25, 2007 6:57 am

Leotaku wrote:I see. I figured that that was what people were referring to, but I didn't know how he would actually differ from the adult Goku (especially since he looks pretty much the same). So I was still confused.
Physically, he can differ in quite a few aspects. He can look considerably younger in facial features and not be nearly as chest-bulky as Goku later becomes in his adult era. He can also only wear the orange gi with no blue undershirt or boots/wristbands (this is when he fights at his best since these items are weights at this point), as well as have the alternate outfit of when he first arrives at the 23rd Budokai stadium. Heck, they can do this for Vegeta and Gohan, why not Goku?
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Post by DNA » Fri May 25, 2007 7:10 am

Yeah, I also can't understand why the most important character in the series doesn't have his diferent phases in the game, where you could have at least 4 and tops 6. Here's a list (I do love my lists):
Kid Goku (first phase)
Kid Goku (second phase, Red Ribbon, 22nd Budokai and Daimao era)
Teen Goku (23rd tournament and Raditz arrival)
Goku (first phase, freeza saga)
Goku (second phase, android saga until beggining of GT)
Goku (third phase, Chibi Goku GT)

And if you want to push it real far:
Ultimate Goku (End of GT, no forms, max power, nyoibo, GT outfit, tail, adult form)

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Post by Xyex » Fri May 25, 2007 8:47 am

Actually the "fall out of the sky crap" is better seeing how it made more sense, I mean, does Yajirobe fly? Does Roshi fly? Does Kid Goku fly? No? So why you complaining?
Because it's 250% stupid. I don't care that they couldn't fly in the show. I'm not playing the show, I'm playing the game. If you're going to complain about non-flying characters flying in the game then complain about being able to use anyone but SSJ3 Goku, and stronger, to beat Kid Buu while you're at it. It's the same damned thing. It's called making the game playable.

Kid Goku, Roshi, Yajirobe, Tao, Grandpa Gohan, and Hercule are all broken, IMO. You can't ascend properly, you can't stay in the air, you can't power up unless your feet are on the ground, (making the destroyed Earth and the Lookout stages absolute NIGHTMARES) and the game defaults you to flying when you attack. No, just fucking no.

It's bad enough Hercule's broken with his attacks not making anyone flinch and his ultimate being stupidly pointless. Now he falls out of the air with a fucking jet pack on. I get it, he's not as strong as the Z Fighters. So what? It's a fucking game, make it WORK, not BROKEN.

You try to land a charged hit to a non-flier in the air and they fall to the ground breaking your combo. You try to play using a non-flier in the tournment ring and you have a 95% chance of losing by ring out. No. No. NO.

Tapion didn't really fight in movie 13. Broly can't beat SSJ4 Gogeta. Videl never uses energy blasts. Roshi can't beat anyone after Kid Goku. But guess what? It happens in the game. Why? Because it's a GAME. GAH. It's not better, it's horrible and it sucks and I'm complaining because it's dumb, it's stupid, it's worthless, it breaks the game's mechanics, and it needs to GO. NOW.
Same here and speaking of costumes, I finally want to see Gohan (Cell arc) with what he wore in Movie 9, so I'm really hoping that they include it this time.
Yes. Cell era Gohan in the orange Gi would ROCK.
Physically, he can differ in quite a few aspects. He can look considerably younger in facial features and not be nearly as chest-bulky as Goku later becomes in his adult era. He can also only wear the orange gi with no blue undershirt or boots/wristbands (this is when he fights at his best since these items are weights at this point), as well as have the alternate outfit of when he first arrives at the 23rd Budokai stadium. Heck, they can do this for Vegeta and Gohan, why not Goku?
Because Goku doesn't need it and we don't need more wasted character slots. Goku is pretty much the same, aside from gaining transformations, during the course of the series. He never fights in his USSJ form like Vegeta does so he doesn't need character for that, he doesn't have a certain time when, as an adult, he can transform into an Oozaru so no need for a form there, he doesn't really change phsycially that much like Gohan so no need to seperate him, etc. It'd just be wasted space.
Yeah, I also can't understand why the most important character in the series doesn't have his diferent phases in the game, where you could have at least 4 and tops 6. Here's a list (I do love my lists):
Kid Goku (first phase)
Kid Goku (second phase, Red Ribbon, 22nd Budokai and Daimao era)
Teen Goku (23rd tournament and Raditz arrival)
Goku (first phase, freeza saga)
Goku (second phase, android saga until beggining of GT)
Goku (third phase, Chibi Goku GT)

And if you want to push it real far:
Ultimate Goku (End of GT, no forms, max power, nyoibo, GT outfit, tail, adult form)
Because those would all be a waste of space. Goku is easily represented by only three character slots. Kid Goku, Z Goku, and GT Kid Goku. That's all he needs.
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Post by gohanku » Fri May 25, 2007 9:26 am

You know what they should have? Vegeta wearing the pink Badman shirt, if he doesn't wear it, I will go after Atari... That and Teen Gohan wearing the Saiyan Amour and Goku wearing the Saiyan Amour.
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Everyone's like, "What?! What are you doing with [b][i]two[/i][/b] arms?! You tear that off right now, mister!"

Poor guy.[/quote]
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Post by denitonis » Fri May 25, 2007 9:59 am

DNA wrote: Kid Goku (first phase)
Kid Goku (second phase, Red Ribbon, 22nd Budokai and Daimao era)
Teen Goku (23rd tournament and Raditz arrival)
Goku (first phase, freeza saga)
Goku (second phase, android saga until beggining of GT)
Goku (third phase, Chibi Goku GT)
And if you want to push it real far:
Ultimate Goku (End of GT, no forms, max power, nyoibo, GT outfit, tail, adult form)
Agree on some of that, but I'd say Kid Goku first phase and second differ to few to give him unique moves and since the tail pops up later he doesn't really seem to be that much different.
Also with adult Goku I'd include android saga in the first phase this way you can give him his Ultimate Super Saiyan transformation.

I'd say
Kid Goku (maybe with some kind of transformation or upgrad other than Oozaru)
Teen Goku (23rd tournament and Raditz arrival)
Goku (first phase, freeza and android saga has Base, SS, USS)
Goku (second phase, Buu and beginning of GT has Base, SS, SS2, SS3 maybe even SS4)
Goku (third phase, Chibi Goku GT has SS, SS3, Golden Oozaru, SS4)

Also I agree on this:
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Actually the "fall out of the sky crap" is better seeing how it made more sense, I mean, does Yajirobe fly? Does Roshi fly? Does Kid Goku fly? No? So why you complaining?
Because it's 250% stupid. I don't care that they couldn't fly in the show. I'm not playing the show, I'm playing the game.
Meaning that it isn't fun to play these characters against flying characters, so even if they don't fix this at least make some kind of tournament form in which characters can't fly.
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Post by DNA » Fri May 25, 2007 10:41 am

Like I said, you just need 4 but you can make 6 :P
I agree with you except for the USSJ transformation wich he didn't use at all for fighting, it's a worthless character slot. Contrary to popular belief, he DOES change is fighting style and attacks in those phases.

As for non-flying characters, I'll say only this: Pokemon Stadium, wich is a freaking Pokemon game for the N64, already had a fighting system wich you could set diferent rules, meaning, you had diferent tournaments to fight in, like baby cup wich only allowed primary forms. So please... Atari is just being lazy, it's not hard AT ALL to do something like that.

Like so: Old School Tournament would only let you fight whit and against Dragon Ball characters. Cell Games only Android Saga characters, etc etc.
It's simple to code, and I know, I study programming. It's just a few code lines saying which characters aren't permited in said tournament.

So yes, who ever is making the game are just lazy bastards who just like to make more and more skins, which is something really easy to do I must add, and you guys now damned well that most attacks are just copied from another fighter, they just alter the velocity, density, size, and colour, basicaly you have the same attack over and over again, just with diferent measures.

Lazy bastards -_-

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Post by Olivier Hague » Fri May 25, 2007 10:44 am

DNA wrote:Atari is just being lazy
Atari isn't making the game. Spike is.

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Post by DNA » Fri May 25, 2007 10:47 am

Do I look like I care about who's making the game?

Instead of commenting about my views you just grab a single mistake I made due to me not caring about who the creators of the game are.

I told you before, save your smart-ass corrections to others.

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Post by Anonymous Friend » Fri May 25, 2007 11:53 am

Beyond adding more characters, what issues do you want them to address in this new installment?
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Post by Xyex » Fri May 25, 2007 12:12 pm

DNA wrote:Like I said, you just need 4 but you can make 6 :P
I agree with you except for the USSJ transformation wich he didn't use at all for fighting, it's a worthless character slot. Contrary to popular belief, he DOES change is fighting style and attacks in those phases.

As for non-flying characters, I'll say only this: Pokemon Stadium, wich is a freaking Pokemon game for the N64, already had a fighting system wich you could set diferent rules, meaning, you had diferent tournaments to fight in, like baby cup wich only allowed primary forms. So please... Atari is just being lazy, it's not hard AT ALL to do something like that.

Like so: Old School Tournament would only let you fight whit and against Dragon Ball characters. Cell Games only Android Saga characters, etc etc.
It's simple to code, and I know, I study programming. It's just a few code lines saying which characters aren't permited in said tournament.

So yes, who ever is making the game are just lazy bastards who just like to make more and more skins, which is something really easy to do I must add, and you guys now damned well that most attacks are just copied from another fighter, they just alter the velocity, density, size, and colour, basicaly you have the same attack over and over again, just with diferent measures.

Lazy bastards -_-
Ehhhhhh. Only if those are optional options for the tournaments. Personally, I'd rather they add a 'gravity effect' so that you can glue the characters to the ground, disabling flying and making it only a jump button for everyone, nothing more. And none of that slow hovering descent crap either, just a regular fall like when you actually do jump (on those very rare occasions) in the game.
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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Fri May 25, 2007 12:15 pm

Anonymous Friend wrote:Beyond adding more characters, what issues do you want them to address in this new installment?
The fighting system and maybe a new way to play multiplayer like in Halo how you can system link if you have the means of doing so. And maybe, just maybe, a decent intro this time around.
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Post by DNA » Fri May 25, 2007 12:19 pm

Who? Me? :x
Well, don't get me wrong, I love more and more characters, but I do admit it's lazy work. So dispite all the characters, costumes, etc etc...

I would like to see better organized tournaments and game modes. Also I would love to see at least 2 vs 2 battles if not 3 vs 3 like Legends had. The graphics a tad more polished to become more "eye-candy-ish". The gameplay is nice in my opinion. I would like to see more stages and bigger ones, better story telling, better cutscenes, a nice new drawned intro instead of those monsters. As for music, the ocidental music isn't that bad, there are some really stupid tunes, but then again, there are some REALLY stupid tunes in the japanese music score, like Romantic Ageru, how is that a battle song? And all those "less then one minute" loops, agh, annoying. I would like musics from the series if they were well done and chosen.

I think that's all.

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Post by Gouko_the_Sleeping_Saiyan » Fri May 25, 2007 1:38 pm

Well for my n00b1sh response I would like to say what I want from Budokai Tenkaichi 3...please don't flame me.
Okay for new characters I think Chibi GT Goku would be good, I would also like an SSJ Broly,and better titling of some characters.(Hence RSSJ Broly being SSJ Broly). I would REALLY like Saiyan armor Goku/Teen Gohan. And a Gohan in Movie 8/9 attire. Maybe Kaio-ken Tien...
I Agree with denitonis about that flying crap. But I've NEVER seen an Android Saga Gohan,hes completely different from Cell Saga AND Kid. So a character for him would be nice.
But for the fighting system I agree with everyone it needs to be revamped. But personally I want a mode were you can play Team battles,or 2 on 2 IN the match and not that garbage about tag-team. I want to be able to team up with my friends and as Trunks and Gohan to beat the crap outa Goku and Vegeta.Is that so wrong?
Cant think of anything else at the moment...

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Post by DaemonCorps » Fri May 25, 2007 1:45 pm

Kantico wrote:I hope :oops: :

DB:
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- Young Roshi.
I'm guessing you mean the version we see in the filler episode where Goku "goes back in time," since the version of young Roshi seen in the canon looks like a generic bold monk in a purple gi.
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Post by caejones » Fri May 25, 2007 2:09 pm

The EpicBattle nature of the Sparking! Fighting engine lends itself to either the option of a legends-esque battle (teams fighting all at once rather than Marvel Vs Capcom style swapping), CoOp or multiplayer modes (And to make my life easier, you should have the "shots do not hurt other players... yet" option; it can be more interesting with it off, but it can be freaking annoying with it off sometimes), or both...


Hmm, the wakeup system confuses me. So... Yeah.

We have a lot of instances from just the 21st tournament where the characters do the superrapidholycrapyoucan'tseeanyonemoving sequence... a bursting mode of that type would be cool... yes? Maybe?

More options for all of the tournament/vs/whatever modes... preferably with the continued randomcharacternarrating the menus thing.

And if they go with an RP-esque route for the main story mode, all forms of feedback should be utilized properly.

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