"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[TheDevilsCorpse]

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[PrinceVegetto]

Does anyone think that we'll be seeing a grown up Goten and Trunks once the new arc starts considering there will be a new opening theme?

[Noah]

Jaco

I don't know that could mean Jaco is the or one of the strongest in the Galaxy Patrol

[Anime Kitten]

Does anyone think that we'll be seeing a grown up Goten and Trunks once the new arc starts considering there will be a new opening theme?

Am I hopeful? Yes. Am I expecting it? Not at all. There's been plenty of time for them to grow up, not to mention Trunks' development in the last arc, and Goten's personality swing in the latest episode, but they still haven't. I've mostly stopped hoping for it (aside from a little sprinkle here and there), as I've realized it's more than likely never going to happen.

tl;dr I don't.

[Sandubadear]

Jaco

I don't know that could mean Jaco is the or one of the strongest in the Galaxy Patrol

Jaco is a joke even in the Galactic Patrol.
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[Ki Breaker]

Jaco

I don't know that could mean Jaco is the or one of the strongest in the Galaxy Patrol

Jaco even being an elite dosen't come close to being very strong..
If you assume rank of elite in a certain organization, you might be somewhat strong there, but you might still not hold a candle outside of it..

At least that's the only way I see elite=/= power Making sense..

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[Noah]

Jaco is a joke even in the Galactic Patrol.

Oh I see, So Jaco claiming himself as an elite could be the same scheme as Burter saying he's the fastest in the universe, even though he's not.

Jaco even being an elite dosen't come close to being very strong..
If you assume rank of elite in a certain organization, you are strong there, but you might still not hold a candle outside of it..

At least that's the only way I see elite=/= power Making sense...

I understand. My whole point is that Roshi and Tien shouldn't be considered elites of Earth forces at all, that's my opinion.

[namekiansaiyan]

Jaco is a joke even in the Galactic Patrol.

Oh I see, So Jaco claiming himself as an elite could be the same scheme as Burter saying he's the fastest in the universe, even though he's not.

Jaco even being an elite dosen't come close to being very strong..
If you assume rank of elite in a certain organization, you are strong there, but you might still not hold a candle outside of it..

At least that's the only way I see elite=/= power Making sense...

I understand. My whole point is that Roshi and Tien shouldn't be considered elites of Earth forces at all, that's my opinion.

I would consider Roshi and Tien better fighters even though Trunks and Goten have more power. There will obviously be fights in the tournament where someone can not win by pure power like against Botamo for example.

[omaro34]

I think Toriyama has made the right decision with Trunks and Goten as Tien and Roshi bring a balance to the team.

They are the 10 elites of Universe 7 not the 10 strongest.

I think you just contradicted yourself, how elite doesn't mean the strongest?

The team doesn't need undeservedly overpowered children. Gotenks' arrogance is his downfall; he's been nothing but comic relief in virtually every scene he's been in during Super's duration and I'm happy it's probably going to stay that way. I'm tired of the Saiyan fest which has been an ongoing trend in Dragonball for ages, let some full blooded humans get into the action for a change instead of background decoration.

[Noah]

The team doesn't need undeservedly overpowered children. Gotenks' arrogance is his downfall, he's been nothing but comic relief in virtually every scene he's been in during Super's duration and I'm happy it's probably going to stay that way. I'm tired of the Saiyan fest which has been an ongoing trend in Dragonball for ages, let some full blooded humans get into the action for a change instead of background decoration.

You know, I read this complaint a lot and that he can't act serious when it's needed him to be. I think they are valid, but that's why I think character development could serve well for the kids. They could grow and learn with their mistakes with training or whatever the shit that could be useful. It's fine that Toriyama don't want to change their designs by aging them yet, but that doesn't mean they couldn't be or act mature at least.

I have no problems with humans being revelant in the story once again, but for me is a matter of rationality as this tournament is not friendly.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

The team doesn't need undeservedly overpowered children. Gotenks' arrogance is his downfall; he's been nothing but comic relief in virtually every scene he's been in during Super's duration and I'm happy it's probably going to stay that way.

He was comic relief even in the Boo Arc. The idea that Gotenks should be treated as anything other than a joke baffles me, since that's literally all he's ever been.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Piccolo and Gohan should be fine, they're both way stronger than Vegeta was when he started his training atm and I think 17 and 18 could pull it off too. The humans don't have a prayer.

Considering Beerus' comment...it seems like he doesn't give a shit about the other 8...arguably 9. He just cares about Goku more than the others getting prepared....which is odd as you'd think he'd basically put them all in boot camp.....which would be super hilarious to see considering universes are at stake.

Seriously. Beerus Bootcamp......make it happen Super...make it happen.

Goku is his main asset and hasn't been training on his planet for a while of course naturally he's going to be more concerned about him then the others. But that also doesn't mean he doesn't care about who the other members are.

He understands that in the end it may very well come down to his strongest against someone else. In that case he will need Goku to be prepared more than anyone else.

[GodKaio-Ken]

The team doesn't need undeservedly overpowered children. Gotenks' arrogance is his downfall; he's been nothing but comic relief in virtually every scene he's been in during Super's duration and I'm happy it's probably going to stay that way.

He was comic relief even in the Boo Arc. The idea that Gotenks should be treated as anything other than a joke baffles me, since that's literally all he's ever been.

I don't really see the joke considering he was stronger than everyone else.

Gotenks first fusion is one of the most awesome moments in all DBZ/DBKai

" I understand...but you dont. Look youre scared....but Buu is nothing. I will bring him back. Dead"

Gotenks is a boss.

[omaro34]

The team doesn't need undeservedly overpowered children. Gotenks' arrogance is his downfall, he's been nothing but comic relief in virtually every scene he's been in during Super's duration and I'm happy it's probably going to stay that way. I'm tired of the Saiyan fest which has been an ongoing trend in Dragonball for ages, let some full blooded humans get into the action for a change instead of background decoration.

You know, I read this complaint a lot and that he can't act serious when it's needed him to be. I think they are valid, but that's why I think character development could serve well for the kids. They could grow and learn with their mistakes with training or whatever the shit that could be useful. It's fine that Toriyama don't want to change their designs by aging them yet, but that doesn't mean they couldn't be or act mature at least.

I have no problems with humans being revelant in the story once again, but for me is a matter of rationality as this tournament is not friendly.

I hear you. I've been advocating for Goten and Trunks to get some development for a long time, especially Goten. We already got a bit of development with Kid Trunks in the Zamasu Arc, but Goten to me is just another mini-Goku. He's either forced to stay home due to his mother wanting him to study, or he's off screen altogether. His lack of dialogue also plays a role.

If someone watches the Buu Arc for the first time, and they reach the part where Goku has to return to the Other World, and Vegeta is dead, you get the feeling that the torch has been passed on to the next generation. It didn't work out that way. Goten played a role in the Buu Arc, but in Super thus far he's been highly disregarded. Goten to me needs more character development than Kid Trunks.

[omaro34]

The team doesn't need undeservedly overpowered children. Gotenks' arrogance is his downfall; he's been nothing but comic relief in virtually every scene he's been in during Super's duration and I'm happy it's probably going to stay that way.

He was comic relief even in the Boo Arc. The idea that Gotenks should be treated as anything other than a joke baffles me, since that's literally all he's ever been.

Exactly. His short encounter with Tagoma with so many fans baffled as to how the fusion ended so quickly, and his embarrassing beatdown by Copy-Vegeta in that horrible filler arc even worse than the Garlic Jr arc was all we got of Gotenks thus far.

[Anime Kitten]

and his embarrassing beatdown by Copy-Vegeta in that horrible filler arc even worse than the Garlic Jr arc was all we got of Gotenks thus far.

Both the Commeson and Garlic Jr. arcs were great. Of course, the latter is off-topic, but I felt like this needed to be said by someone.

I want Goten to have some action on his own. No Trunks, and especially no Gotenks. I'm so sick of people complaining about Goten's lack of personality when he clearly has one. Maybe after the Universe Survival arc...

[omaro34]

and his embarrassing beatdown by Copy-Vegeta in that horrible filler arc even worse than the Garlic Jr arc was all we got of Gotenks thus far.

Both the Commeson and Garlic Jr. arcs were great. Of course, the latter is off-topic, but I felt like this needed to be said by someone.

I want Goten to have some action on his own. No Trunks, and especially no Gotenks. I'm so sick of people complaining about Goten's lack of personality when he clearly has one. Maybe after the Universe Survival arc...

I made a thread about those 2 filler Arcs in the Super section, since Copy-Vegeta happened during Super.

[Anime Kitten]

I made a thread about those 2 filler Arcs in the Super section, since Copy-Vegeta happened during Super.

Just saw it. Thanks!

[dbzfan7]

Considering Beerus' comment...it seems like he doesn't give a shit about the other 8...arguably 9. He just cares about Goku more than the others getting prepared....which is odd as you'd think he'd basically put them all in boot camp.....which would be super hilarious to see considering universes are at stake.

Seriously. Beerus Bootcamp......make it happen Super...make it happen.

Goku is his main asset and hasn't been training on his planet for a while of course naturally he's going to be more concerned about him then the others. But that also doesn't mean he doesn't care about who the other members are.

He doesn't even know what the tournament is yet. So he has no idea whether he needs a bunch of others or not. Not to mention he seem not very concerned with Vegeta, which was part of the joke they were telling.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Goku is his main asset and hasn't been training on his planet for a while of course naturally he's going to be more concerned about him then the others. But that also doesn't mean he doesn't care about who the other members are.

He doesn't even know what the tournament is yet. So he has no idea whether he needs a bunch of others or not. Not to mention he seem not very concerned with Vegeta, which was part of the joke they were telling.

Goku still has one upped Vegeta with KK. Beerus fought Goku and knows how smart a fighter he was afterall he was able to absorb SSG. I think he knows when Vegeta comes down to it he has nothing on Goku, Goku is his match winner, Vegeta is his second safe. I'd still be very concerned if my matchwinner was not showing up for training despite my second being there I mean who wouldn't? Vegeta is a very limited fighter compared to Goku too. Goku has Shunkanido, KK and even the Spirit Dama on top of ki attacks and brute strength which is all Vegeta has going for him.