Why do you dislike Tadayoshi Yamamuro?

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Why do you dislike Tadayoshi Yamamuro?

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:07 pm

So I've seen a lot of hate towards Yamamuro (and) his character designs before (trust me I've seen a LOT xD).

But is there any other reason to really hate Yamamuro to (this) extent other than just his character designs?

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:08 pm

Why would there be?

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:16 pm

Yamamuro cut me in line at my favorite pizza place and now that cunt crust is forever on my shitlist.

Well, that and he's a bad animator and director and keeps forcing his influence on those much better than him.
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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by Bansho64 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:16 pm

Of course not. I don't know the guy. He could an awesome person for all I know. Other than his character designs and his animation, I don't have any animosity towards the guy.

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:20 pm

I don't remember him stealing my food so no there is no other reason
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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by Avok » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:25 pm

Just look at this: https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/25198
It's so boring and dull...

He would be pretty harmless if the situation was different, I mean, there are tons of average animators in Japan, but since he holds such a high position in the DB anime franchise he can't be ignored.

I don't hate him though, since he's not the only one to blame for what Dragon Ball has become.

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by Doctor. » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:43 pm

Avok wrote:Just look at this: https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/25198
It's so boring and dull...

He would be pretty harmless if the situation was different, I mean, there are tons of average animators in Japan, but since he holds such a high position in the DB anime franchise he can't be ignored.

I don't hate him though, since he's not the only one to blame for what Dragon Ball has become.
He seems to get the spirit of what Dragon Ball fights are supposed to look like better than anyone else though.

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:05 pm

Avok wrote:Just look at this: https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/25198
It's so boring and dull...

He would be pretty harmless if the situation was different, I mean, there are tons of average animators in Japan, but since he holds such a high position in the DB anime franchise he can't be ignored.

I don't hate him though, since he's not the only one to blame for what Dragon Ball has become.
Oh.. that would make sense. the only reason I've heard about people hating him was his character designs hah.

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Avok wrote:Just look at this: https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/25198
It's so boring and dull...

He would be pretty harmless if the situation was different, I mean, there are tons of average animators in Japan, but since he holds such a high position in the DB anime franchise he can't be ignored.

I don't hate him though, since he's not the only one to blame for what Dragon Ball has become.
He seems to get the spirit of what Dragon Ball fights are supposed to look like better than anyone else though.
Guess he cant put a pen on paper and animate action anymore :/

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by Chuquita » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:12 pm

I don't hate him, but I dislike how far his grasp of facial designs has fallen in the years between Z and Super. His noses and the whites of character eyes along with chins and cheeks are all out of proportion compared to his older art.
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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by Attitudefan » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:53 pm

Chuquita wrote:I don't hate him, but I dislike how far his grasp of facial designs has fallen in the years between Z and Super. His noses and the whites of character eyes along with chins and cheeks are all out of proportion compared to his older art.
actually that's untrue. He always gave the characters huge jaws and was awful at drawing faces from low angle shots; those low angle shots made the jaws even bigger. The large noses, the sloped foreheads, that's all him and has always been him. He just moved to a more "cute" style than what was previous. He always coloured with the plastic look in mind. I have a thread on here comparing Piccolo drawn by Maeda vs Yamamuro during the initial run, and everything Yamamuro does now was present then. The only difference is that others most likely corrected his frames which made them look different than to his present style. All the flaws that I and many others dislike were there in 1991.
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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:13 pm

Care to post an image to back up your point? I don't recall any flaws from Yamamuro's older design.
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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by Chuquita » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:44 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Care to post an image to back up your point? I don't recall any flaws from Yamamuro's older design.
Seconding this, because I don't remember Yamamuro's art from Z looking like his current style in Super either.
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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:33 pm

I hate him because he ate my sushi, I'll never forgive him for that.
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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:04 am

There was hate towards Yamamuro? havent seen any tbh, Tate tho yes. I love Yamamuro's work.

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by TekTheNinja » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:18 am

SansrivaaL wrote:There was hate towards Yamamuro? havent seen any tbh, Tate tho yes. I love Yamamuro's work.
What? I've seen nothing but love for Tate. He's the best.

Yamamuro though is a god awful director who forces his stylings on more talented people.

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:27 am

Hate is a strong word, I dislike him. He is a bad animator and with higher-ups favoring him he gets promoted to positions he doesn't deserve. After watching F, I know he is an amateur director and storyboard artist and if he wanted to be a director he should've done it a little earlier in his career. So, there's no hope in the directorial department too. He may know all the martial arts and what Dragon Ball fights are, but if he can't move the camera then that knowledge is useless. He also has a strong influence on those who are far better than him as mentioned before.

In short, he is hurting the creativity of the franchise I care about and is the prime reason the franchise has absolutely nothing to talk about in terms of good animation and direction.

If not for Tate, Shida and some of the few young talents who do some good work a few times, the franchise would already be dead. It is still almost dead.

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by IGhostUlt » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:42 am

Avok wrote:Just look at this: https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/25198
It's so boring and dull...

He would be pretty harmless if the situation was different, I mean, there are tons of average animators in Japan, but since he holds such a high position in the DB anime franchise he can't be ignored.

I don't hate him though, since he's not the only one to blame for what Dragon Ball has become.
LOL I totally disagree, I believe he receives too much hate for no reason(yes he was way better in the 90s). I can see why people hate Tate so much, but thats a whole different story.

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:43 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:There was hate towards Yamamuro? havent seen any tbh, Tate tho yes. I love Yamamuro's work.
What? I've seen nothing but love for Tate. He's the best.

Yamamuro though is a god awful director who forces his stylings on more talented people.
Go to the animation thread you'll see a lot of hate on Tate, there are other forums as well with a lot of people that hates Tate's work, Youtube as well.

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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by VegettoEX » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:59 am

JulieYBM wrote:Well, that and he's a bad animator and director and keeps forcing his influence on those much better than him.
That mostly sums it up for me. His work isn't up to par with what it once was, and now the sub-par stuff is literally the design document for the show.

There was also that whole shakedown in that interview where Yamamuro explained the production pipeline issues with the show early on, and then proceeded to blame the fans for noticing when it so obviously fell apart.

It's not "hate". It's extreme displeasure bordering on contempt depending on how long I've been talking about it and how much I've been drinking with said folks.
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Re: Why do you hate yamamuro?

Post by Bullza » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:11 am

I don't, he still made the best Dragon Ball Z movie to date.

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