Should everyone be trained by Whis for the tournament?

[HeroR]

I really think it depends on how much time they have before the tournament. From what was implied in Episode 18, Vegeta spent six months with Whis just doing conditioning to raise his overall strength to be up to par with Goku's. Whis didn't personally train Vegeta until he brought Goku and he only spent a day conditioning Goku for his training. So, Whis may not have the time to actually train them, just give them high-level strength training that may kill them.

I doubt Roshi would survived this type of training, and Tien and Krillin would have to get the kiddy edition. Buu simply doesn't have the discipline to train, especially under someone like Whis. Everyone else should be fine in theory since their power is higher than Vegeta's base form when he started to train, although it's a question of how much time they have to condition.

[namekiansaiyan]

I really think it depends on how much time they have before the tournament. From what was implied in Episode 18, Vegeta spent six months with Whis just doing conditioning to raise his overall strength to be up to par with Goku's. Whis didn't personally train Vegeta until he brought Goku and he only spent a day conditioning Goku for his training. So, Whis may not have the time to actually train them, just give them high-level strength training that may kill them.

I doubt Roshi would survived this type of training, and Tien and Krillin would have to get the kiddy edition. Buu simply doesn't have the discipline to train, especially under someone like Whis. Everyone else should be fine in theory since their power is higher than Vegeta's base form when he started to train, although it's a question of how much time they have to condition.

The time and training thing won't be an issue as Toriyama would use it as a joke to mock Vegeta and Goku.He will have Whis say they are much better at training then you two. This will send Vegeta mad obviously.

[HeroR]

The time and training thing won't be an issue as Toriyama would use it as a joke to mock Vegeta and Goku.He will have Whis say they are much better at training then you two. This will send Vegeta mad obviously.

Toriyama may continue the traditional of Goku's friends doing better than him at the start, but the gains being noticeably more lackluster. I mean, the last time everyone had the same master (King Kai), no one learned any the techniques he gave Goku.

Even then, Roshi would be a lag. Tien and Krillin would have to do gimp training since their bodies can't handle Whis' standard conditioning and Buu just lacks discipline. Piccolo will be interesting since we never actually see him do strength/conditioning. Most of his training is just sitting a corner somewhere and meditating. The same with the androids who never did any discipline training before. Only Gohan would has been through this type of conditioning before.

[namekiansaiyan]

The time and training thing won't be an issue as Toriyama would use it as a joke to mock Vegeta and Goku.He will have Whis say they are much better at training then you two. This will send Vegeta mad obviously.

Toriyama may continue the traditional of Goku's friends doing better than him at the start, but the gains being noticeably more lackluster. I mean, the last time everyone had the same master (King Kai), no one learned any the techniques he gave Goku.

Even then, Roshi would be a lag. Tien and Krillin would have to do gimp training since their bodies can't handle Whis' standard conditioning and Buu just lacks discipline. Piccolo will be interesting since we never actually see him do strength/conditioning. Most of his training is just sitting a corner somewhere and meditating. The same with the androids who never did any discipline training before. Only Gohan would has been through this type of conditioning before.

They have not all got to be a Goku's level, they only need to be at a decent level to contribute to the team.

[HeroR]

They have not all got to be a Goku's level, they only need to be at a decent level to contribute to the team.

Even the weaker person on U6 gave trouble to Goku's base form, which craps on Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and the only reason why Piccolo had any reasonable chance against Frost was because Goku weakened him. Even then, Piccolo is least around Perfect Cell's power range, while the humans and androids are way behind that. If this is the bar, then at the very least Goku and Vegeta's base forms need to be the bar. Otherwise, you might as well have the cannon fodder squad like the Z-Fighters against Nappa. Buu has some work arounds since he unusual skill sets and body makes it so he can get away with being physically weaker, similar to Botamo.

[namekiansaiyan]

They have not all got to be a Goku's level, they only need to be at a decent level to contribute to the team.

Even the weaker person on U6 gave trouble to Goku's base form, which craps on Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks and the only reason why Piccolo had any reasonable chance against Frost was because Goku weakened him. Even then, Piccolo is least around Perfect Cell's power range, while the humans and androids are way behind that. If this is the bar, then at the very least Goku and Vegeta's base forms need to be the bar. Otherwise, you might as well have the cannon fodder squad like the Z-Fighters against Nappa. Buu has some work arounds since he unusual skill sets and body makes it so he can get away with being physically weaker, similar to Botamo.

There base forms could be the bar for how many certain fighters get to. However, right now we don't know the format so maybe they don't need to be really strong. Also since there is 10 fighters per universe we surely have to assume that Toriyama has something planned for the rest as we can't have 8 characters getting their arse kicked in every round.

If Toyotaro is going ahead of the anime then a big possible reason is becuase of many training episodes.

Whis could even be hiding some special training technique or powers on purpose. But since Beerus is in a desperate situation he might get Whis to help out the others.

Overall, there is definitely something major missing that we are just guessing at as of right now.

[Basako]

Yes, it's time for Roshi to learn to fly. Krilin and Tenshinhan need a nice boost too.

[ChronoTwigger]

And ...
why other Hakaishin couldn't train their own fighters the same way?
So, nothing will change at all.

[BWri]

I'd be glad if they only trained with King Kai. If they all learned Kaioken and Gohan learned some Kaioshin-esque God Mode, I'd be satisfied. But if we want them to be more respectable I'd give them at least a year to train and I'd have them train with everyone from Kaio to Whis. Kaio teaches them kaioken and Whis teaches them perfect ki control and they can all harness god ki at various levels. Maybe the god ki could manifest differently in everyone.

[Totamo]

you mean when during the 3 years before the androids, NONE of the zip fighters trained with gravity like goku and vegeta did?

They ain't training, they will fight fodder. Let's not lie to ourselves.

[namekiansaiyan]

you mean when during the 3 years before the androids, NONE of the zip fighters trained with gravity like goku and vegeta did?

They ain't training, they will fight fodder. Let's not lie to ourselves.

All 8 will be crap in a team tournament? I don't think so as Universe 7 will have no chance otherwise.

[HeroR]

you mean when during the 3 years before the androids, NONE of the zip fighters trained with gravity like goku and vegeta did?

They ain't training, they will fight fodder. Let's not lie to ourselves.

All 8 will be crap in a team tournament? I don't think so as Universe 7 will have no chance otherwise.

The tournament was never said to be teams. The Champa Saga had a crew, but all the fights were 1v1.

[SansrivaaL]

Everyone should learn kaioken it would be a huge help boosting all their stats in an instant.

[SansrivaaL]

you mean when during the 3 years before the androids, NONE of the zip fighters trained with gravity like goku and vegeta did?

They ain't training, they will fight fodder. Let's not lie to ourselves.

All 8 will be crap in a team tournament? I don't think so as Universe 7 will have no chance otherwise.

No guarantee that the other universe will have fighters on par with Goku or Vegeta, for all we know most of em are just Dodoria level or even Raditz level I think the real shiz starts after the tournament anyways, I see the tournament as nothing but a fan service and an appetizer for the main course.

[namekiansaiyan]

you mean when during the 3 years before the androids, NONE of the zip fighters trained with gravity like goku and vegeta did?

They ain't training, they will fight fodder. Let's not lie to ourselves.

All 8 will be crap in a team tournament? I don't think so as Universe 7 will have no chance otherwise.

No guarantee that the other universe will have fighters on par with Goku or Vegeta, for all we know most of em are just Dodoria level or even Raditz level I think the real shiz starts after the tournament anyways, I see the tournament as nothing but a fan service and an appetizer for the main course.

The tournament will finish, remember who is running it! The two Zenos and the Grand Priest will not let it get interrupted as they will just kill the person or blow up some universes.

[SansrivaaL]

The tournament will finish, remember who is running it! The two Zenos and the Grand Priest will not let it get interrupted as they will just kill the person or blow up some universes.

I never said it wont finish, I said "after the tournament"

[Ki Breaker]

All 8 will be crap in a team tournament? I don't think so as Universe 7 will have no chance otherwise.

No guarantee that the other universe will have fighters on par with Goku or Vegeta, for all we know most of em are just Dodoria level or even Raditz level I think the real shiz starts after the tournament anyways, I see the tournament as nothing but a fan service and an appetizer for the main course.

The tournament will finish, remember who is running it! The two Zenos and the Grand Priest will not let it get interrupted as they will just kill the person or blow up some universes.

As much as I would like to have the tournament finish, its certain Buddy it's going to be interrupted.
We already have one tournament which actually finished, then we have Toyotaros word on things don't go as expected..
It's somehow going to be interrupted cent percent

[MisteryOne]

While I would love to see the rest of the team being at least as Goku and Vegeta's base power levels wise, the trailer pretty much implied that they didn't know that the universes that lose will be destroyed (at least for me).

Beerus probably thinks that since Zeno enjoyed the last tournament (which was pretty much Vegeta vs everyone) and since both Zenos have a somehow close realtionship with Goku, he only needs the two saiyans to win or at least make Zeno happy.

[namekiansaiyan]

No guarantee that the other universe will have fighters on par with Goku or Vegeta, for all we know most of em are just Dodoria level or even Raditz level I think the real shiz starts after the tournament anyways, I see the tournament as nothing but a fan service and an appetizer for the main course.

The tournament will finish, remember who is running it! The two Zenos and the Grand Priest will not let it get interrupted as they will just kill the person or blow up some universes.

As much as I would like to have the tournament finish, its certain Buddy it's going to be interrupted.
We already have one tournament which actually finished, then we have Toyotaros word on things don't go as expected..
It's somehow going to be interrupted cent percent

When did he even say that about the upcoming arc. The only tournament that has not finished properly is during the Buu arc. This is the one that will most likely finish out of any tournament.

[Ki Breaker]

The tournament will finish, remember who is running it! The two Zenos and the Grand Priest will not let it get interrupted as they will just kill the person or blow up some universes.

As much as I would like to have the tournament finish, its certain Buddy it's going to be interrupted.
We already have one tournament which actually finished, then we have Toyotaros word on things don't go as expected..
It's somehow going to be interrupted cent percent

When did he even say that about the upcoming arc. The only tournament that has not finished properly is during the Buu arc. This is the one that will most likely finish out of any tournament.

I don't remember the exact words but it was something along those lines that he said..