General Fan Fiction Thread

[Alruneia]

Wow, we reached 500 posts exactly and then the thread got quiet. That's odd! I've just assumed that the focus in the fandom has been on Zen'ou's tournament instead.
Speaking of that, and since Super is a still-running show... Do you people look after things that happen in both your work and in Super, except you wrote it first? I might have asked this before, I don't recall
Because I'm up to eight things right now, a tournament between all universes being one of them. It'll be fun to compare mine to Super, though it's most likely going to be very different. I'll keep the other seven things on my list secret, since they're all spoilers... mostly.
I seriously recommend those of you currently writing to keep track of things like these. It's fun to see how close to the "official mindset" you are. How close you can get to something Toriyama would write.

[Anime Kitten]

I'm actually debating when to touch the other Universes, but I think this arc will be the best opportunity. So far, Super hasn't *ahem* copied me, but I can name at least one other show here in 'Murica that did a few years ago.

Back to what I previously mentioned, I'll get a good look at all the Gods of Destruction and Kaioushin, and proceed to nitpick which ones I don't like, followed by an original design for said characters. Brilliant, I know.

[ekrolo2]

I'm actually debating when to touch the other Universes, but I think this arc will be the best opportunity. So far, Super hasn't *ahem* copied me, but I can name at least one other show here in 'Murica that did a few years ago.

Back to what I previously mentioned, I'll get a good look at all the Gods of Destruction and Kaioushin, and proceed to nitpick which ones I don't like, followed by an original design for said characters. Brilliant, I know.

I am quite excited by this prospect too, now instead of putting in effort into designing twevle G.O.D.s I can just take the Super ones and use (murder them) anyway I want!

[Doctor.]

I'm actually debating when to touch the other Universes, but I think this arc will be the best opportunity. So far, Super hasn't *ahem* copied me, but I can name at least one other show here in 'Murica that did a few years ago.

Back to what I previously mentioned, I'll get a good look at all the Gods of Destruction and Kaioushin, and proceed to nitpick which ones I don't like, followed by an original design for said characters. Brilliant, I know.

I am quite excited by this prospect too, now instead of putting in effort into designing twevle G.O.D.s I can just take the Super ones and use (murder them) anyway I want!

Oh, isn't it cute? He actually thinks Super is revealing all of the 12 Gods of Destruction instead of the ones that will be relevant.

[ekrolo2]

I'm actually debating when to touch the other Universes, but I think this arc will be the best opportunity. So far, Super hasn't *ahem* copied me, but I can name at least one other show here in 'Murica that did a few years ago.

Back to what I previously mentioned, I'll get a good look at all the Gods of Destruction and Kaioushin, and proceed to nitpick which ones I don't like, followed by an original design for said characters. Brilliant, I know.

I am quite excited by this prospect too, now instead of putting in effort into designing twevle G.O.D.s I can just take the Super ones and use (murder them) anyway I want!

Oh, isn't it cute? He actually thinks Super is revealing all of the 12 Gods of Destruction instead of the ones that will be relevant.

The less work for me the better I say.

[Doctor.]

I am quite excited by this prospect too, now instead of putting in effort into designing twevle G.O.D.s I can just take the Super ones and use (murder them) anyway I want!

Oh, isn't it cute? He actually thinks Super is revealing all of the 12 Gods of Destruction instead of the ones that will be relevant.

The less work for me the better I say.

Just reboot it all

[ekrolo2]

Just reboot it all

All of Super or all of DB? Please say the former

[Doctor.]

Just reboot it all

All of Super or all of DB? Please say the former

I'm ordering the "Challenge Menu" to go, please.

[Anime Kitten]

Oh, isn't it cute? He actually thinks Super is revealing all of the 12 Gods of Destruction instead of the ones that will be relevant.

Oh, they'll all be revealed. Perhaps not all of them will do something, but we'll see them, at least. And that's a~all I need.

[MisteryOne]

Since the Zamasu arc ended I have been wanting to trying to rewrite the entire DB series, but it have been years since the last time I read the original manga, so I think I will just try to rewrite Super.

I have plenty of ideas, but all of them have some type of problems, so I wanted to know your opinions about it. I will reduce this comment to spoilers tags so you don't have to read it all if you don't want.

Note: I will not use any non Toriyama design except a hypothetical new golden SS form

Regarding the begginig
[spoiler]

• I was wondering if Super could start with the Champa tournament instead of BoG. While I love BoG, I wanted to think how the tournament would work with SS2 instead of SSBlue, and with SS3 instead of Blue Kaioken. However, I think it's a bit forced, because in the very same arc I would have to introduce both the Hakaishins and the Universes thing .It would also make the entire U6 quite weak.
• To start this way, I would need Champa to awake Beerus and offer him the tournament thing. The problem is, why would Beerus accept it? Maybe the Super DB?
• I don't think Goku would accept without at least try to fight Beerus, so in the end it would be a boring redone of BoG.

[/spoiler]

Regarding the power levels
[spoiler]

• If I start the arc with the tournament, the SS forms will pretty much be the same as Z. SS1,SS2 and SS3. Eventualy they would either discover SSGod (which would be Red for Goku and Blue for Vegeta, so no SSGSS) or a different, new golden form, a mastered version of SS2 or something new.
• If the arc starts with BoG, then the power levels will be extremely different. Goku and Vegeta will only have Base and SSGSS, which sustitudes the golden forms. In their base forms Goku and Vegeta are as strong as SS3 Goku from Boo saga, and their SSGSS are as strong as the former SSG form that Goku had in BoG. I also trough of going the logical route and make their base as strong as SSGod and SSGSS be x50 of that, but I think the bases would be way too OP then.

[/spoiler]

Regarding Zamasu and Goku Black
[spoiler]

• I would want their arc to be the final one before going past EoZ. Because of that, it has to be after the Universal Survival arc. However that would mean two tournaments arc pretty much together, and that could be boring.
• Of course, Goku Blacks forms wil depend of Goku's forms. If Trunks ever gets his Super form it will be logically explained and foreshadowed.
• I have ideas of a hell lot of different versions of this arc. In one of them, Goku Black doesn't exist at all, being Zamasu the main villain. In another, there is not time travel, and Blacks starts erradicating mortals in the present, which would lead to Hit being ordered to kill Goku. While I think it could be amazing to convert Trunks's future into the present Earth itself and make character development for Gohan and Goten, maybe it would feel too much like some type of Ginyu Arc, since Zamasu by himself would only appear in flashbacks. I also don't know how he could get Goku's body without killing him and without use time travel. I trough of making Black the Hakaishin of U10, but I will have to see if the character itself in Super would really agree with Zamasu's ideals.
• If the existence of two Zenos ends being something heavy in the Universal Survival Arc maybe I will be forced to make the Zamasu arc before it.

[/spoiler]

Regarding Gohan
[spoiler]

• In any version, Gohan would replace either Buu (if the series starts in BoG) or Monaka (if the series starts with the tournament)
• If the series starys with the tournament, Gohan woud be a really big problem since he is way stronger than SS3 Goku, and Frost beating him would feel quite lame.
• If the series starts with BoG in the Champa tournament he will use SS instead of Ultimate.
• In any case, he wil be a main character in the Zamasu arc.

[/spoiler]


Regarding ROF [spoiler]

• I will try to avoid this atrocity unless I need something between Champa and Universal Survival arc.
• If I make this arc I will change pretty much everything.

[/spoiler]

Regarding Bra
[spoiler]

• In any version, she will be born by the Zamasu arc.
• If the series starts with BoG, she will be used to allow his dad to become a God before the Champa arc.
• Just like Pan, she will be important after EoZ.

[/spoiler]

Regarding general writing problems
- I don't really know how to write fight scenes without giving them too many details. How do yoy guys do it?
- How do you know if your humour sense is similar to the one from the original series? I don't think I can write new jokes in Toriyama's style...
-How do I know if in my fanfic the characters feel like themselves?


I would really apreciate your opinions about any of this. It's my first time writing a fanfic, my first time creating any DB related apart from some drawings and my first time writing something that can become long in English, so I'm a bit lost.

[Anime Kitten]

I don't really know how to write fight scenes without giving them too many details. How do yoy guys do it?

Give them as much detail as you desire! Whether the descriptions are basic (though informative enough to convey the point) or complex, it works. Take this as an example.
Basic:
[spoiler]Goku punched Vegeta, sending him flying straight upwards into the air.[/spoiler]
Complex:
[spoiler]Goku sent an uppercut Vegeta's way, launching him straight up in the air.[/spoiler]
Either way, you're getting the point across. If you wanted to go basic, just mention it beforehand, and I don't think people would mind. If you're not a native English speaker, either, they'll understand why it might be more difficult. Though you do have excellent English!

[MisteryOne]

I don't really know how to write fight scenes without giving them too many details. How do yoy guys do it?

Give them as much detail as you desire! Whether the descriptions are basic (though informative enough to convey the point) or complex, it works. Take this as an example.
Basic:
[spoiler]Goku punched Vegeta, sending him flying straight upwards into the air.[/spoiler]
Complex:
[spoiler]Goku sent an uppercut Vegeta's way, launching him straight up in the air.[/spoiler]
Either way, you're getting the point across. If you wanted to go basic, just mention it beforehand, and I don't think people would mind. If you're not a native English speaker, either, they'll understand why it might be more difficult. Though you do have excellent English!

Thank you! I have been studying it for a few years but I still make a lot of mistakes, specially speaking.

I suppose I will try to go the complex route and see if I can handle it.

Also nice avatar. Goten fan?

[Anime Kitten]

Also nice avatar. Goten fan?

Yep! This is actually the last time I'll have this one for now, because I'm (at the time of writing) about to change it over to a Christmas-themed one. Glad you like it, though!

[ekrolo2]

How do you guys approach potentially interesting story ideas for DB that can feel very un-DB like? Like having say galactic politics playing a big part in a story?

[SilverArmada]

How do you guys approach potentially interesting story ideas for DB that can feel very un-DB like? Like having say galactic politics playing a big part in a story?

DO IT. DOOOOO IIIIIIT.

No seriously, go for it. I love that kind of thing. DB is a huge universe and wide and varied, and politics and internal struggles played a part in the Frieza saga when covering events related to Vegeta defecting, etc. So it's not completely out there. Fanfic is there for authors to have fun doing neat things, so go for it. If you write it and post it up, let me know so I can check it out. :>

PS I have a TON of politics and other stuff in my also very un-DB-like fanfic, "Illumination." So if you want to read something and get an idea of how someone else has done it, go for it. There's a link in my sig to my work on FFnet. :>

[Doctor.]

How do you guys approach potentially interesting story ideas for DB that can feel very un-DB like? Like having say galactic politics playing a big part in a story?

When Toriyama pulled aliens and time travel out of his ass, I say you can pull politics out of your ass without it feeling too un-DB like.

[ekrolo2]

So, here's a rundown of some ideas I've nailed down for the Black arc remaster:

- Black isn't from the main timeline though various comments he makes earlier on have the characters assume he is and act on it: he's from the unseen timeline where many things happened similarly but different.
- The difference between Black and Zamasu is more pronounced and elaborated upon. Black, when he was still Zamasu, was intrigued by humans and investigated them on his own, judging them as vile beings after witnessing their various atrocities but opting to remain silent about it until the U6 tournament footage puts Goku in his crosshairs.
- Future Zamasu witnessed and interacted with mortals under Gowasu's guidance and felt pity for them, he could see their great potential but also their self-destructive impulses. He secretly tried to teach the people of the Babari planet in philosophy and other arts to help them peacefully develop. But things would go badly and the Babari would use Zamasu's learnings for evil and this would eventually lead to their premature extinction. During this, Zamasu would try different approaches: diplomat, philosopher, dictator, anything to save them but it would all fail, leaving him guilt ridden and disappointed in mortals.
- This distinction between how they met mortals is a byproduct of the time travel butterfly effect subtly altering events, thus putting the blame on the two Future Trunks' who altered history for their own selfish desires.
- Black is essentially the devil when he meets with his alternate self, he'd be the one to goad his future counterpart into his zero mortals plan after proving to him mortals, for all their potential, cannot be saved and they'll drag everything down to hell with them.
- Black uses the Super DB button to assemble them and has his future counterpart gain true immortality. He refrains from doing this for himself since he needs the threat of death & injury to master Goku's power. The two begin by killing the Kai's.
- Where Zamasu does these killings of Kai's and mortals as quickly, efficiently and painlessly so as not to make sure mortals and nature suffer too much, Black is far more vicious and prone to giving way to his Saiyan instincts and he's far less bothered by sacrificing the universes natural beauty or resorting to barbarism. This is why he picks his calmer self as a partner: he's acting as Black's conscience and leash.
- There'd be a small arc where Black would purposefully target the fighters of U6 so he can gain better control of Goku's power, eventually unlocking a mutated Super Saiyan form during a bloody fight with Hit.
- Future Trunks and 16 would be partners in the future and would lead a school meant to train people how to use Ki before Black arrives.
- Gohan & Piccolo would train at Whis' temple while Whis himself creates a dimension similar to Earth's ROSAT where Goku and Vegeta are surrounded by Godly Ki, this is so they can fully master Blue and remove its big manga flaw before moving to raise their overall power.
- Gowasu would be the Dai Kaioshin and only Kaioshin of U10, the trees responsible for growing his species there haven't yielded fruit in many, many years and the other Kaioshin died from old age. Zamasu is the first new Kai in U10 in many, many generations.
- When the Dai Kaioshin dies, both his G.O.D. and attendants die with him.
- Gohan wouldn't get God or Blue, he'd instead get a God Ki amped version of his Ultimate State since Old Kai's ritual fundamentally altered how Gohan's powers work. Piccolo would get the Red-Eye Namekian state.

[Doctor.]

If Goku were to time his IT to the exact moment that Hit activated his timeskip, what would Hit see? Would he not be able to find Goku? Would Goku already be behind him?

[Anime Kitten]

If Goku were to time his IT to the exact moment that Hit activated his timeskip, what would Hit see? Would he not be able to find Goku? Would Goku already be behind him?

In-universe logic? He would already be behind him, I'd say. It is "Instant"/"Instantaneous" for a reason.

In-Universe logic? It would overpower the Time Skip and allow him to move freely even while the Time Skip remains active.

[ekrolo2]

If Goku were to time his IT to the exact moment that Hit activated his timeskip, what would Hit see? Would he not be able to find Goku? Would Goku already be behind him?

He might make out Goku dematerializing in one place then rematerializing in another but most likely he'd see nothing.