Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[Noah]

I doubt Hit is as strong as Merged Zamasu.

Is not a matter of strength, mate. Just that Hit has deadly techniques that could be used against opponents that exceeds his power.

[ZombieVito]

Indeed. Once again Hit is weaker than Goku but thanks to his techniques, he manages to beat Goku up a bit.

[Saturnine]

This shows Goku's growth. Back at Champa's tournament, Goku needed Kaioken x2 to noticeably outstrip Hit in power (to the point where Hit couldn't see him move). Looks like he's managed to increase his power since that time.

[perucho1990]

Yeah, we could agree Hit makes up the lack of raw strength with his dangerous techniques.

How would Hit perform vs these people after seeing the latest episode?

1. Super Trunks
2. Genkidama Trunks
3. Black
4. Merged Zamasu
5. Bulked Merged Zamasu.

[Abra kadabra]

Yeah, we could agree Hit makes up the lack of raw strength with his dangerous techniques.

How would Hit perform vs these people after seeing the latest episode?

1. Super Trunks
2. Genkidama Trunks
3. Black
4. Merged Zamasu
5. Bulked Merged Zamasu.

He loses to all of them. Goku beat him just by powering up. Hits nothing special

[Helios518]

Yeah, we could agree Hit makes up the lack of raw strength with his dangerous techniques.

How would Hit perform vs these people after seeing the latest episode?

1. Super Trunks
2. Genkidama Trunks
3. Black
4. Merged Zamasu
5. Bulked Merged Zamasu.

He gets curbstomped by Genkidama Trunks, and Merged Zamasu forms but effortlessly stomps Black and Super Trunks.

[pacz360]

I doubt Hit is as strong as Merged Zamasu.

Is not a matter of strength, mate. Just that Hit has deadly techniques that could be used against opponents that exceeds his power.

Which doesn't mean much against merged zamasu who's immortal.

[OLKv3]

Yeah, we could agree Hit makes up the lack of raw strength with his dangerous techniques.

How would Hit perform vs these people after seeing the latest episode?

1. Super Trunks
2. Genkidama Trunks
3. Black
4. Merged Zamasu
5. Bulked Merged Zamasu.

He loses to all of them. Goku beat him just by powering up. Hits nothing special

This lol. The episode pretty much put him down to manga Hit tiers.

[Saiyan007]

This episode did confirm Hit and Goku are stronger than themselves from the tournament arc

Goku says Hit is way stronger than he was at the universal tournament.

[Marlowe89]

Yeah, we could agree Hit makes up the lack of raw strength with his dangerous techniques.

How would Hit perform vs these people after seeing the latest episode?

1. Super Trunks
2. Genkidama Trunks
3. Black
4. Merged Zamasu
5. Bulked Merged Zamasu.

I think his techniques might help him against Super Trunks and maybe Black but power-wise he's easily outstripped by all of them. Hit can compete with SSB level fighters mostly just because of his Time-Skip ability.

[Bullza]

So if Hit at the tournament was about on par with SSJB Goku Kaioken x10 and in this episode they say Hit is much stronger than he was at the tournament and SSJB Goku is about on par with him....wouldn't that also kinda mean that current SSJB Goku is stronger than his previous Kaioken x10 self?

I also have no idea what happened at the end of that fight so if that could be explained that'd be great.

[GodVegetto91]

So if Hit at the tournament was about on par with SSJB Goku Kaioken x10 and in this episode they say Hit is much stronger than he was at the tournament and SSJB Goku is about on par with him....wouldn't that also kinda mean that current SSJB Goku is stronger than his previous Kaioken x10 self?

I also have no idea what happened at the end of that fight so if that could be explained that'd be great.

Exactly my thoughts aswell. That would be insane. But they seem to imply it. Hit is very powerful even without all his fancy moves. He's at least on par with U6 Tournament Arc SSJ Blue KK x10 Goku. And now even stronger.

[Saturnine]

Hit could only survive against KKx10 Goku thanks to his extremely advanced Tokitobashi. Without it, KKx2 Goku was already leagues above him.

And in this fight, we saw that Hit didn't really use Tokitobashi much at all, only his other moves.

[Saiyan007]

Hit could only survive against KKx10 Goku thanks to his extremely advanced Tokitobashi. Without it, KKx2 Goku was already leagues above him.

And in this fight, we saw that Hit didn't really use Tokitobashi much at all, only his other moves.

Hit currently is stronger than he was back in the tournament much stronger according to Goku which would also mean current SSGSS Goku > universe 6 & 7 tournament KKX10 SSGSS Goku

[Saturnine]

Hit could only survive against KKx10 Goku thanks to his extremely advanced Tokitobashi. Without it, KKx2 Goku was already leagues above him.

And in this fight, we saw that Hit didn't really use Tokitobashi much at all, only his other moves.

Hit currently is stronger than he was back in the tournament much stronger according to Goku which would also mean current SSGSS Goku > universe 6 & 7 tournament KKX10 SSGSS Goku

Nope. All it means Goku is now >>> KKx2 Goku from the tournament.

[Saiyan007]

Hit could only survive against KKx10 Goku thanks to his extremely advanced Tokitobashi. Without it, KKx2 Goku was already leagues above him.

And in this fight, we saw that Hit didn't really use Tokitobashi much at all, only his other moves.

Hit currently is stronger than he was back in the tournament much stronger according to Goku which would also mean current SSGSS Goku > universe 6 & 7 tournament KKX10 SSGSS Goku

Nope. All it means Goku is now >>> KKx2 Goku from the tournament.

Hit was above KKx2 Goku hence why he used KKx10 and Hit still survived attacks from him.Goku's words make this very clear.

[Bullza]

Well it's a bit confusing because Hit was supposed to be weaker than SSJB Goku at the Tournament but his time skip somehow allowed him to hold on his own against SSJB Goku Kaioken x10 though he was clearly much weaker than him.

So Hit could be much stronger than he was at the Tournament without the current SSJB Goku being stronger than his previous Kaioken x10 self.

In simple terms

Hit (U6) - 9
SSJB Goku (U6) - 10
SSJB Goku Kaioken x10 - 100

Hit (now) - 60
SSJB Goku - 60

Just an example I'm not over thinking it but I did mention a while back that if Goku used just the Kaioken x2 against Merged Zamasu then it'd mean he was probably at least six times stronger than he was at the tournament.

So it's probably not impossible that he's stronger than his previous Kaioken x10 strenght actually.

[TheMikado]

^ but has he surpassed Beerus now?

[Noah]

Which doesn't mean much against merged zamasu who's immortal.

Half Immortal

....wouldn't that also kinda mean that current SSJB Goku is stronger than his previous Kaioken x10 self?

I also have no idea what happened at the end of that fight so if that could be explained that'd be great.

Exactly my thoughts aswell. That would be insane. But they seem to imply it. Hit is very powerful even without all his fancy moves. He's at least on par with U6 Tournament Arc SSJ Blue KK x10 Goku. And now even stronger.

Gosh, that would mess the power scaling of this show even further and wank Beerus beyond the limts

but has he surpassed Beerus now?

At this rate, Beerus will never be surpassed, mate

[pacz360]

Why the hell people are saying hit is weaker he and goku are more or less on the same tier of power and even hit took several attacks from him ssjb kk x10 goku while being restricted in u6 tourney.