The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[miguelnuva1]

I got three

1. What if Vegeta dies in the cell fanes and is aloud to keep his body and stay with Goku till the buu arc?

2. What if Goten has a twin sister thats a littlw atrobger than Trunks and Goku reveals a three way fusion, does the new Gotenks handle Buu without the rosat?

3. If Goku had another kid around Pan and Bra's age with a tail and he goes through Gt trainning with Goku does he change any events and does he reach ssj4?

[kinisking]

It blows my mind that someone not only thought of thus, but also drew it.

Given that Gohan's power while rage boosted was well in excess of a million, it would be more like 70 or 80 million. Still a level Frieza can easily beat at full power, but an enraged Gohan isn't going to let him power up like Goku.

I don't know what Gohan's PL is after his last on-screen Zenkai but he would probably beat Freeza to death before he could power up.

We know he's weaker than Vegeta who is a joke compared to Goku who is at 3 million, so it'd be safe to say Gohan is around 1.5 million.

However Frieza can power up to 50% almost instantaneously, and then 70% in very little time as well. This would put him at 84 million.

Vegetas a joke compared to kaioken x20 goku which should be 60 million.

[Nekis13]

I got three

1. What if Vegeta dies in the cell fanes and is aloud to keep his body and stay with Goku till the buu arc?

2. What if Goten has a twin sister thats a littlw atrobger than Trunks and Goku reveals a three way fusion, does the new Gotenks handle Buu without the rosat?

3. If Goku had another kid around Pan and Bra's age with a tail and he goes through Gt trainning with Goku does he change any events and does he reach ssj4?

1. SSJ3 Vegeta would be a thing, his personality would be drastically different though.

2. Uhh... I mean, sure? If this three way fusion works the same like the fusion dance, the new Gotenks wouldn't need ROSAT.

3. At this point, it won't matter much. Goku's third child would probably end up being as strong as Uub and also be possessed by Baby, if he doesn't tag along with Goku to search the Dragon Balls that is. Even then, it wouldn't change much because Goku would still be miles ahead of them, all events would play out normally except Goku has to beat up an extra person during the Baby Saga.

[FoolsGil]

1. What if Vegeta dies in the cell games and is allowed to keep his body and stay with Goku till the buu arc?

Dare I say the Vegeta we see in Super would be the one we see in the Buu Arc, Seven years doing nothing but training and sparring, he'd eventually have to let go of his inner frustrations while still being the rival.

Bulma and Yamcha get back together. Trunks is the heir to Wolf Fang Fist Kung Fu, much to Vegeta's dismay.

I doubt that Babidi will release Buu before his minions are killed and ship destroyed

[Nejishiki]

What if Goten was born a year after Gohan? How would the Saiyan - Buu saga turn out?

I imagine Goten would be Gohan's character foil. Think Mycroft to Sherlock for a broad example. The younger brother would be spiritually minded and a technical combatant while Gohan's anger and confidence would initially be in disarray. The story between the two would likely entail them supporting each other's deficiencies, I think. Gohan grows from being too mild-mannered and Goten avoids stagnant growth by learning to craft his own legacy. Of course, to deepen the contrast, Gohan would be the stronger individual if he applied himself. What holds him back is requiring a deep motive to involve himself in violent affairs unlike this version of Goten. He's just naturally interested in taking after Goku, to a certain extent.

[Hellspawn28]

I got three

1. What if Vegeta dies in the cell fanes and is aloud to keep his body and stay with Goku till the buu arc?

2. What if Goten has a twin sister thats a littlw atrobger than Trunks and Goku reveals a three way fusion, does the new Gotenks handle Buu without the rosat?

3. If Goku had another kid around Pan and Bra's age with a tail and he goes through Gt trainning with Goku does he change any events and does he reach ssj4?

1. Vegeta would probably never fall under Babidi's control. Dabra and Babidi would be defeated before Buu can be awaken. Beerus shows up and finds out that Goku is dead. Goten and Trunks would probably not know fusion and would probably lose to Aka. Seeing that Aka is not a major threat, Gohan may end up defeating him and Tarble would be upset that his brother is dead. Beerus awakes up and dreams about the Super Saiyan God. Beerus finds Goku on King Kai's planet and Goku would lose. Beerus would visit Earth and probably won't destroy it unless something pisses him off. Freeza gets wish back to life and finds out that Goku & Vegeta are dead. He still probably invades the Earth and probably won't train since Goku and Vegeta are dead. Since Buu was never defeated, so that would be another reason for Freeza not to train.

Gohan would probably defeat Freeza and the Universe 6 Tournament would never happen. With Goku dead, Zamasu would probably never have any reason to go after Goku and hate mortals. So everyone lives a happy life after ROF.

2. I think Gotenks would be a bit stronger, but not enough to win.

3. I think they would probably defeat Bebi faster. I don't think much else would change.

Some ideas.

1. What if Botamo, Cabba and Magetta went to Trunks timeline with Goku, Vegeta and Trunks to fight Black and Zamasu?

2. What if Trunks was Yamucha's son. How would Toriyama write the story? (I know realistic speaking, Trunks would die early on. I would imagine Toriyama would find away for Trunks to be strong enough to defeat Freeza).

[Almighty Majin]

What if Spike the Devilman had come to the scene to fight Freeza and King Cold like in BT3? (Assuming that he trained like crazy to get to their level while also using the Devilmite Beam)

How would the series go from there?

[miguelnuva1]

Some ideas.

1. What if Botamo, Cabba and Magetta went to Trunks timeline with Goku, Vegeta and Trunks to fight Black and Zamasu?

2. What if Trunks was Yamucha's son. How would Toriyama write the story? (I know realistic speaking, Trunks would die early on. I would imagine Toriyama would find away for Trunks to be strong enough to defeat Freeza).

1. I see Black eventually being defeated with more warriors running interference and then Zamasu being sealed some how.

2. I could see Goku beating Frieza himself here and possibly even Goku being the only ssj.

[Hellspawn28]

If Trunks was the son of Yamucha, I could Toriyama giving Trunks Kaioken. With Gotenks, they could have SSj Gotenks Kaiokeen X1000 to put up a fight against Super Buu. I think Vegeta's character would be much different since he won't have a family and probably care about Future Trunks.

[Merged Zamasu]

I got three

1. What if Vegeta dies in the cell fanes and is aloud to keep his body and stay with Goku till the buu arc?

2. What if Goten has a twin sister thats a littlw atrobger than Trunks and Goku reveals a three way fusion, does the new Gotenks handle Buu without the rosat?

3. If Goku had another kid around Pan and Bra's age with a tail and he goes through Gt trainning with Goku does he change any events and does he reach ssj4?

1. Vegeta would probably never fall under Babidi's control. Dabra and Babidi would be defeated before Buu can be awaken. Beerus shows up and finds out that Goku is dead. Goten and Trunks would probably not know fusion and would probably lose to Aka. Seeing that Aka is not a major threat, Gohan may end up defeating him and Tarble would be upset that his brother is dead. Beerus awakes up and dreams about the Super Saiyan God. Beerus finds Goku on King Kai's planet and Goku would lose. Beerus would visit Earth and probably won't destroy it unless something pisses him off. Freeza gets wish back to life and finds out that Goku & Vegeta are dead. He still probably invades the Earth and probably won't train since Goku and Vegeta are dead. Since Buu was never defeated, so that would be another reason for Freeza not to train.

Gohan would probably defeat Freeza and the Universe 6 Tournament would never happen. With Goku dead, Zamasu would probably never have any reason to go after Goku and hate mortals. So everyone lives a happy life after ROF.

2. I think Gotenks would be a bit stronger, but not enough to win.

3. I think they would probably defeat Bebi faster. I don't think much else would change.

Some ideas.

1. What if Botamo, Cabba and Magetta went to Trunks timeline with Goku, Vegeta and Trunks to fight Black and Zamasu?

2. What if Trunks was Yamucha's son. How would Toriyama write the story? (I know realistic speaking, Trunks would die early on. I would imagine Toriyama would find away for Trunks to be strong enough to defeat Freeza).

Botamo, Cabba and Magetta would have hardly changed things. They would have proven to be an additional distraction, yes, but Black easily dealt with Goku, Vegeta and Trunks all by himself. Botamo and Magetta can easily be countered (Vegeta and Goku figuret out their weakness, i am sure Black would have been able to do the same) and Cabba is nothing special. Since Super Sayan Blue was enough to oneshot him, Cabba should be crushed by Super Sayan Rose, which is on the same level of Super Sayan Blue and is unique to Black.

In the end, Black and Future Zamasu would have still fused (as Future Zamasu would have probably been able to escape anyway the Mafuba) and those additional fighters would have been worthless against Merged Zamasu.

[Steven Bloodriver]

I got three

1. What if Vegeta dies in the cell fanes and is aloud to keep his body and stay with Goku till the buu arc?

2. What if Goten has a twin sister thats a littlw atrobger than Trunks and Goku reveals a three way fusion, does the new Gotenks handle Buu without the rosat?

3. If Goku had another kid around Pan and Bra's age with a tail and he goes through Gt trainning with Goku does he change any events and does he reach ssj4?

1. Vegeta would probably never fall under Babidi's control. Dabra and Babidi would be defeated before Buu can be awaken. Beerus shows up and finds out that Goku is dead. Goten and Trunks would probably not know fusion and would probably lose to Aka. Seeing that Aka is not a major threat, Gohan may end up defeating him and Tarble would be upset that his brother is dead. Beerus awakes up and dreams about the Super Saiyan God. Beerus finds Goku on King Kai's planet and Goku would lose. Beerus would visit Earth and probably won't destroy it unless something pisses him off. Freeza gets wish back to life and finds out that Goku & Vegeta are dead. He still probably invades the Earth and probably won't train since Goku and Vegeta are dead. Since Buu was never defeated, so that would be another reason for Freeza not to train.

Gohan would probably defeat Freeza and the Universe 6 Tournament would never happen. With Goku dead, Zamasu would probably never have any reason to go after Goku and hate mortals. So everyone lives a happy life after ROF.

2. I think Gotenks would be a bit stronger, but not enough to win.

3. I think they would probably defeat Bebi faster. I don't think much else would change.

Some ideas.

1. What if Botamo, Cabba and Magetta went to Trunks timeline with Goku, Vegeta and Trunks to fight Black and Zamasu?

2. What if Trunks was Yamucha's son. How would Toriyama write the story? (I know realistic speaking, Trunks would die early on. I would imagine Toriyama would find away for Trunks to be strong enough to defeat Freeza).

Botamo, Cabba and Magetta would have hardly changed things. They would have proven to be an additional distraction, yes, but Black easily dealt with Goku, Vegeta and Trunks all by himself. Botamo and Magetta can easily be countered (Vegeta and Goku figuret out their weakness, i am sure Black would have been able to do the same) and Cabba is nothing special. Since Super Sayan Blue was enough to oneshot him, Cabba should be crushed by Super Sayan Rose, which is on the same level of Super Sayan Blue and is unique to Black.

In the end, Black and Future Zamasu would have still fused (as Future Zamasu would have probably been able to escape anyway the Mafuba) and those additional fighters would have been worthless against Merged Zamasu.

Yo, Lord Beerus or Scarz, we seriously need your help over here!

[ChronoTwigger]

1. What if Botamo, Cabba and Magetta went to Trunks timeline with Goku, Vegeta and Trunks to fight Black and Zamasu?

2. What if Trunks was Yamucha's son. How would Toriyama write the story? (I know realistic speaking, Trunks would die early on. I would imagine Toriyama would find away for Trunks to be strong enough to defeat Freeza).

1 - are we talking of "perfect defense but no attack" Botamo, "Look mum I went SS1 one week ago" Cabba and "Minority Complex vs Mocking God" Magetta?

2. Trunks will be a tech genius instead of a fighting kind of character. Think of Pilaf Machines, but actually working. A Batman character like will be very welcome!

[Ki Breaker]

2. Trunks will be a tech genius instead of a fighting kind of character. Think of Pilaf Machines, but actually working. A Batman character like will be very welcome!

Batman with the physical prowess to blow up celestial bodies? Count me the in!

[SuperKirillin]

1. What if Gohan never stopped training and never went to high school or met Videl

2. What if Vegitto didn't unfuse in the Buu arc and they didn't use the Dragon Balls to unfuse them (pretend you never read DB Multiverse).

[Polyphase Avatron]

What if someone hired Hit to kill Zeno? Knowing who he was, would he even try? Or just refuse?

And if he would try, how would he go about it?

[floofychan333]

What if Super replaced GT but SSJ4 was still canon?

[Lord Beerus]

What if someone hired Hit to kill Zeno? Knowing who he was, would he even try? Or just refuse?

And if he would try, how would he go about it?

Hit would fucking flat out refuse because he values his life. Even if he agreed to it, I'm sure that Omni King would do some hax bullshit and no sell his Time-Skip ability.

[Berserker1921]

What if characters from super appeared in Dragon ball? Like what if beerus and whis became friends with Bulma at a young age? What if goku met hit back then? How would modern events play out?

[Steven Bloodriver]

What if Super replaced GT but SSJ4 was still canon?

1) Akira Toriyama or a corporate big shot would have found a way to write out Super Saiyan 4...

2) Dragon Ball GT and Dragon Ball Super should have been produced the day that DBZ ended.

[Polyphase Avatron]

What if someone hired Hit to kill Zeno? Knowing who he was, would he even try? Or just refuse?

And if he would try, how would he go about it?

Hit would fucking flat out refuse because he values his life. Even if he agreed to it, I'm sure that Omni King would do some hax bullshit and no sell his Time-Skip ability.

What if the one who hired him was Daishinkan?