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Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

Post by Smilodon » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:38 pm

No because it's magic. Only Thor can lift. Even someone like Hulk (who is waaaay stronger than Thor couldn't.... So Goku can't too.
But Goku is billions time stronger than Thor
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Smilodon wrote:No because it's magic. Only Thor can lift. Even someone like Hulk (who is waaaay stronger than Thor couldn't.... So Goku can't too.
But Goku is billions time stronger than Thor
Anyone who the enchantment deems 'worthy' can lift it. That's why Captain America can lift it.
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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

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Smilodon wrote:No because it's magic. Only Thor can lift. Even someone like Hulk (who is waaaay stronger than Thor couldn't.... So Goku can't too.
But Goku is billions time stronger than Thor
Anyone who the enchantment deems 'worthy' can lift it. That's why Captain America can lift it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir_(comics)

Even freakin' Squirrel Girl can lift it. The point is that only Mjolnir decides who is worthy to lift it. If Mjolnir decides Goku is not worthy, not even SSB Vegito can lift it. It would be funny if Beerus is not worthy and watch him try to lift it.
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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:43 pm

Well Beerus probably isn't worthy since he kills so many people and does such evil things.

Goku might be though.
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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

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Smilodon wrote:No because it's magic. Only Thor can lift. Even someone like Hulk (who is waaaay stronger than Thor couldn't.... So Goku can't too.
But Goku is billions time stronger than Thor
It's not about strength needed to wield the weapon, if you watched the video, you'd know that.

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Post by TobyS » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:36 am

If you are stronger than Odin you could lift it by force, otherwise it's worthiness.
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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:10 am

The rules of Mjolnir are convoluted to say the least but sticking to the essential one, I'd say Future Trunks would be worthy of lifting the hammer
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:14 am

TobyS wrote:If you are stronger than Odin you could lift it by force, otherwise it's worthiness.
It's not just about being physically stronger, you have to be able to overrule the enchantment.
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ekrolo2 wrote:The rules of Mjolnir are convoluted to say the least but sticking to the essential one, I'd say Future Trunks would be worthy of lifting the hammer
If Mjolnir operated according to DB logic, Goku would definitely be worthy to lift it.

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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:26 am

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ekrolo2 wrote:The rules of Mjolnir are convoluted to say the least but sticking to the essential one, I'd say Future Trunks would be worthy of lifting the hammer
If Mjolnir operated according to DB logic, Goku would definitely be worthy to lift it.
Definitely but under Marvel rules there's no way he or most of the cast would be able to lift it. Hell, Goten and Gohan would have a better chance of lifting it than Goku,
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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:59 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:The rules of Mjolnir are convoluted to say the least but sticking to the essential one, I'd say Future Trunks would be worthy of lifting the hammer
If Mjolnir operated according to DB logic, Goku would definitely be worthy to lift it.
Definitely but under Marvel rules there's no way he or most of the cast would be able to lift it. Hell, Goten and Gohan would have a better chance of lifting it than Goku,
Yeah, Goku may be a cocky prick at worst, but he's fundamentally a pure hearted guy and genuinely nice guy who goes out of his way to help others and protect his friends and family. I'd think he would be worthy of lifting the hammer.

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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:06 pm

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Doctor. wrote: If Mjolnir operated according to DB logic, Goku would definitely be worthy to lift it.
Definitely but under Marvel rules there's no way he or most of the cast would be able to lift it. Hell, Goten and Gohan would have a better chance of lifting it than Goku,
Yeah, Goku may be a cocky prick at worst, but he's fundamentally a pure hearted guy and genuinely nice guy who goes out of his way to help others and protect his friends and family. I'd think he would be worthy of lifting the hammer.
Earlier Z Goku might be but with the exception of GT Goku, he's become way too selfish to be worthy of using it later on. Especially Super Goku who traded universe shattering/threatening blows with Beerus for no other reason than to amuse himself.
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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:27 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
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ekrolo2 wrote: Definitely but under Marvel rules there's no way he or most of the cast would be able to lift it. Hell, Goten and Gohan would have a better chance of lifting it than Goku,
Yeah, Goku may be a cocky prick at worst, but he's fundamentally a pure hearted guy and genuinely nice guy who goes out of his way to help others and protect his friends and family. I'd think he would be worthy of lifting the hammer.
Earlier Z Goku might be but with the exception of GT Goku, he's become way too selfish to be worthy of using it later on. Especially Super Goku who traded universe shattering/threatening blows with Beerus for no other reason than to amuse himself.
To be fair, Goku had no idea the Universe was on the verge of being destroyed when he was trading blows with Beerus.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:46 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:To be fair, Goku had no idea the Universe was on the verge of being destroyed when he was trading blows with Beerus.
He must be aware if he's deliberately matching punches to render the after effects null.
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Post by TobyS » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:39 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
TobyS wrote:If you are stronger than Odin you could lift it by force, otherwise it's worthiness.
It's not just about being physically stronger, you have to be able to overrule the enchantment.
It was Odin who placed the enchantments though. Perhaps I should have said “more powerful than” rather than stronger.
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ekrolo2 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:To be fair, Goku had no idea the Universe was on the verge of being destroyed when he was trading blows with Beerus.
He must be aware if he's deliberately matching punches to render the after effects null.
If he was matching the punches to nullify them, how can you say he was doing it to amuse himself? He was clearly trying to stop the destruction, otherwise he wouldn't even develop the technique. Staying still and taking the punches would result in destruction all the same. BOG arc Goku expressed worry and anger at Beerus' lack of care of human life quite a few times.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:33 am

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ekrolo2 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:To be fair, Goku had no idea the Universe was on the verge of being destroyed when he was trading blows with Beerus.
He must be aware if he's deliberately matching punches to render the after effects null.
If he was matching the punches to nullify them, how can you say he was doing it to amuse himself? He was clearly trying to stop the destruction, otherwise he wouldn't even develop the technique. Staying still and taking the punches would result in destruction all the same. BOG arc Goku expressed worry and anger at Beerus' lack of care of human life quite a few times.
There's no reason to stop them, the colliding blows are what cause the initial shockwaves, he ca just dodge or use IT to get away from them. Instead he's pointlessly endangering the universe to trade blows that didn't need to be traded.
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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

Post by Gog » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:50 am

No, why would Goku?!? be worthy to pick up Thor's hammer, this man has proven himself to be unworthy. Time. And. Time. Again.
So yeah nah.

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Re: Comic Drake: Can Goku Lift Thor's Hammer?

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ekrolo2 wrote:There's no reason to stop them, the colliding blows are what cause the initial shockwaves, he ca just dodge or use IT to get away from them. Instead he's pointlessly endangering the universe to trade blows that didn't need to be traded.
That's another thing entirely, that's just Goku being an idiot, not him endangering the universe on purpose. He was clearly not endangering it on purpose.

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