What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by SSJ YUSUKE » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:22 am

I can't imagine why I would ever get so worked up over a children's cartoon. I don't know, maybe if it decided to become political and Goku began espousing his love for Donald Trump and building walls to stop the Nameks from coming to earth or something stupid like that.
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Post by Londex1337 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:32 pm

Totamo wrote:I have enjoyed this sequel for the most part, it has issues, I will not deny but not enough to make me wish i never watched it like GT. ( Seriously turning goku into a kid, turning trunks into a pansy and a Cooler cameo....)

Mostly because what I want out of my dragon ball is a fun time, and super has given me that except RoF, should have skipped that altogether like the manga.

However, I will not pretend that it could anger me to no end and make me wish it was never created.

My breaking point: pandering so much to the fans, you bring movie characters in or more transformations for Goku and Vegeta without developing super saiyan blue, this form has not beaten anyone since it debut.

Which could be said for Super saiyan 3 but that was pure fanservice .

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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by Grimlock » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:51 pm

Is there any particular reason why people were saying movie villains when obviously there is no chance of them appearing in the anime series? :eh:

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Post by ChronoTwigger » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:15 pm

If the number of haters will increase dramatically, I will hate Super for all the flamewars I had to start.
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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by Xiao Long Li » Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:28 pm

Honestly? Ruining Future Trunks' happy ending from the original series. And it already did that.

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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by Gafonso6 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:09 am

If it becomes as boring as GT was. My God is that show boring. Super has problems but it never made me not want to watch an episode when it aired unlike GT. Unlike GT, for me it never felt like an episode that had 20 minutes had 40.
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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by perucho1990 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:13 am

If they followed exactly Toyotaros manga, specially making the antagonist look like complete chumps like Manga Hit and Black.

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Post by iAnimationLover_ » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:23 am

perucho1990 wrote:If they followed exactly Toyotaros manga, specially making the antagonist look like complete chumps like Manga Hit and Black.

The manga is also pretty rushed too, he covered an entire episode in just *1 Page* Before. he also said that one day the Manga Will be ahead of the Anime and he will be giving information to the anime, instead of the other way around

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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by SsjCookie » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:20 am

: Make everything revolve around Goku, I don't care if he's the main character I hate how they make him seem like he's the best thing since sliced bread. :evil:
: Not giving Vegeta a mayor win in the future (him playing second fiddle to Goku is getting old fast)
: Turning Kid Trunks and Goten into the same pansy's as in GT. (one is enough ..cough..Gohan.....cough)
: Pan becoming a copy of her grandma Chichi
: Bra (if she appears) being a completely useless side character (she's half Saiyan for gods sake)

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Post by Kanassa » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:21 am

SsjCookie wrote: : Bra (if she appears) being a completely useless side character (she's half Saiyan for gods sake)
Being half saiyan doesn't mean she has to be a fighter, especially when considering that the EOZ seemed to show her following more after her mother than her father.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by Merged Zamasu » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:15 pm

If they waste Merged Zamasu's potential and rush his character by making him lose to mortals like Trunks without even explaining how he lost to weaklings like Trunks or how Trunks kept obtaining such amazing bursts of power, i'm done.

Oh wait...

Episode 66 made me hate Super intensely. It was garbage and trash, filled with abysmal writing. The only good thing was the animation.

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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by Alruneia » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:51 pm

Kanassa wrote:
SsjCookie wrote: : Bra (if she appears) being a completely useless side character (she's half Saiyan for gods sake)
Being half saiyan doesn't mean she has to be a fighter, especially when considering that the EOZ seemed to show her following more after her mother than her father.
She doesn't have to be a fighter to not be a completely useless side character. Also, considering her lines were "Don't kill him!" to Pan (manga only) and "Wow, Papa's strong!" about Vegeta (anime only, Funi dub), there's nothing in dialogue suggesting that she'll take more after Bulma than Vegeta. On the contrary, the dialogue seems to suggest (to me) that she's at least mildly interested in strength, which I'd say is more of a Vegeta thing.
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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by sintzu » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:36 pm

SsjCookie wrote:Not giving Vegeta a mayor win in the future (him playing second fiddle to Goku is getting old fast).
What he got in the RF arc is as close to a major win as he's going to get. :cry:
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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by MaxZ » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:22 pm

if they somehow found a way to make it so nothing in Super happened and then made GT canon

like if there was a wish that undid everything that happened in DBS

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Post by Kanassa » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:19 pm

MaxZ wrote:if they somehow found a way to make it so nothing in Super happened and then made GT canon

like if there was a wish that undid everything that happened in DBS
Thus making the entire show pointless? Unless the characters remember everything that happened despite the reset
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:31 pm

kinisking wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
kinisking wrote:Unless he get some BS power up like Piccolo's absorptions... :P
Or mystic form.
''Just sit on your ass for 24 hours, then you'll be the strongest!"
Yeah that was bull shit too but I just had to tease him :lol:
Nothing tops Trunks in bullshit...nothing. Though as a power up routine, SSJ God is the king of bullshit and offensive.

To make me hate the show intensively...well...

-Only Goku and Vegeta matter, or just Goku.
-More jokes at Gohan's expense and constantly retconing his lessons.
-Goku and or Vegeta grow strong enough to make Whis and Beerus useless.
-Beerus and Whis to become obsolete like the others have.
-Shitty fight scenes and animation constantly again.
-Devaluing the characters even more.
-Glorification for only Goku and potentially Vegeta.
-More bullshit power ups with hardly and sense, reasoning, or logic.
-More fucking up the endings of arcs.

It'd take all of that combined to make me quit.
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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by Saturnine » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:52 pm

Dunno, pretty much what everyone has already said. I'd hate for Super to start pandering to wannabe macho fanboys who only care about muscles and shit.

I'd also hate if it started introducing stupid and convoluted plot devices such as the Black Star Dragonballs.

We've basically had GT do both of these things, so yeah, no need to do the same thing all over again.

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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by kinisking » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:56 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
kinisking wrote:
Kanassa wrote: Or mystic form.
''Just sit on your ass for 24 hours, then you'll be the strongest!"
Yeah that was bull shit too but I just had to tease him :lol:
Nothing tops Trunks in bullshit...nothing. Though as a power up routine, SSJ God is the king of bullshit and offensive.

To make me hate the show intensively...well...

-Only Goku and Vegeta matter, or just Goku.
-More jokes at Gohan's expense and constantly retconing his lessons.
-Goku and or Vegeta grow strong enough to make Whis and Beerus useless.
-Beerus and Whis to become obsolete like the others have.
-Shitty fight scenes and animation constantly again.
-Devaluing the characters even more.
-Glorification for only Goku and potentially Vegeta.
-More bullshit power ups with hardly and sense, reasoning, or logic.
-More fucking up the endings of arcs.

It'd take all of that combined to make me quit.
That's true, ssg ritual is the absolute worst power up. Much bigger boost than ultimate and its done by holding hands. Honestly, this universal tournament is the deciding factor. At least 6 characters have to have shining moments during this arc or I'll be pissed at super for ruining such a great opportunity. Don't bring do much fighters only to make most job without an attempt . What's the fucking point then? If you want characters to lose, Tension is built best when the characters throw some amazing strategies at the enemy and still lose. Tension is not built as well when they're simply one hit kod without an attempt.
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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by Beyond » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:58 pm

If both Piccolo and Gohan get disgraced this arc.
If the antagonists or lame.
If Goku and co get written like trash.

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Re: What would super have to do to make you hate it intensely

Post by MaxZ » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:02 am

kinisking wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
kinisking wrote: Yeah that was bull shit too but I just had to tease him :lol:
Nothing tops Trunks in bullshit...nothing. Though as a power up routine, SSJ God is the king of bullshit and offensive.

To make me hate the show intensively...well...

-Only Goku and Vegeta matter, or just Goku.
-More jokes at Gohan's expense and constantly retconing his lessons.
-Goku and or Vegeta grow strong enough to make Whis and Beerus useless.
-Beerus and Whis to become obsolete like the others have.
-Shitty fight scenes and animation constantly again.
-Devaluing the characters even more.
-Glorification for only Goku and potentially Vegeta.
-More bullshit power ups with hardly and sense, reasoning, or logic.
-More fucking up the endings of arcs.

It'd take all of that combined to make me quit.
That's true, ssg ritual is the absolute worst power up. Much bigger boost than ultimate and its done by holding hands. Honestly, this universal tournament is the deciding factor. At least 6 characters have to have shining moments during this arc or I'll be pissed at super for ruining such a great opportunity. Don't bring do much fighters only to make most job without an attempt . What's the fucking point then? If you want characters to lose, Tension is built best when the characters throw some amazing strategies at the enemy and still lose. Tension is not built as well when they're simply one hit kod without an attempt.
yeah I'd really hate to see any of the fighters being brought in this next arc get fucked over

I want them all to have some good shining moments. and go ahead and make it fan servicy as long as it works. have Android 18 do a kamehameha, have Tien split in 4 and hit an enemy with 4 tri beams, have Roshi use that electric attack he used on Goku, stuff like that.

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