"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Bullza]

It stills seems kinda messy.

If Dragon Ball began in Age 749 and Bulma is 16 then that means she was born in Age 733 and according to Herms that's what the Daizenshuu and SEG character guides state.

If Bulma is 2 years older than Goku then it'd mean that Goku was born in Age 735. He'd be 3 years old in Age 738. He'd still be 3 throughout a portion of Age 739 so that could fit with Omori's 10 years comment and Beerus' 39 years comment.

I don't see how the Age 737 birthdate could work and it would also mean the original age he gave of 14 was actually the right one and the revised birthdate he gave later is where the Age 737 date came from which the Bardock movies have worked themselves around.

So Toriyama did mess up really because Goku should have been 1 years old in Dragon Ball Minus.

Also Bulma said she was 38 in Battle of Gods when she should be 45.

[Sandubadear]

It stills seems kinda messy.

If Dragon Ball began in Age 749 and Bulma is 16 then that means she was born in Age 733 and according to Herms that's what the Daizenshuu and SEG character guides state.

If Bulma is 2 years older than Goku then it'd mean that Goku was born in Age 735. He'd be 3 years old in Age 738. He'd still be 3 throughout a portion of Age 739 so that could fit with Omori's 10 years comment and Beerus' 39 years comment.

I don't see how the Age 737 birthdate could work and it would also mean the original age he gave of 14 was actually the right one and the revised birthdate he gave later is where the Age 737 date came from which the Bardock movies have worked themselves around.

So Toriyama did mess up really because Goku should have been 1 years old in Dragon Ball Minus.

Also Bulma said she was 38 in Battle of Gods when she should be 45.

Where did you get this "Bulma is 2 years older than Goku"? She was born in 733 and Goku in 737, what the other guys said is right.

[Nejishiki]

About the 10 years, well in the manga they just mentioned than 10 years passed, not if they were entirely peaceful.

Mmhm, that's my reference, too. I'm used to seeing criticisms that the new material disturbed the peace. Turns out it was never said to begin with.

[TheMikado]

About the 10 years, well in the manga they just mentioned than 10 years passed, not if they were entirely peaceful.

Mmhm, that's my reference, too. I'm used to seeing criticisms that the new material disturbed the peace. Turns out it was never said to begin with.

I don't think the peace part was the problem, I thought it had been years since they saw each other.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

About the 10 years, well in the manga they just mentioned than 10 years passed, not if they were entirely peaceful.

Mmhm, that's my reference, too. I'm used to seeing criticisms that the new material disturbed the peace. Turns out it was never said to begin with.

I don't think the peace part was the problem, I thought it had been years since they saw each other.

Bulma said they hadn't seen each other in 5 years,, so there hasn't been a contradiction yet

[kinisking]

Mmhm, that's my reference, too. I'm used to seeing criticisms that the new material disturbed the peace. Turns out it was never said to begin with.

I don't think the peace part was the problem, I thought it had been years since they saw each other.

Bulma said they hadn't seen each other in 5 years,, so there hasn't been a contradiction yet

I think there is. Bog was 4 years after boo, and Champa arc was at least 6 months and it's been about a year since then.

[ekrolo2]

I think there is. Bog was 4 years after boo, and Champa arc was at least 6 months and it's been about a year since then.

There's definitely a screw up here. Unless Super really does start only six months after Majin Boo was beaten, we're should be in the sixth year of the 10 year gap by now.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I think there is. Bog was 4 years after boo, and Champa arc was at least 6 months and it's been about a year since then.

In DBS, BoG wasn't nearly that long after.

There's definitely a screw up here. Unless Super really does start only six months after Majin Boo was beaten, we're should be in the sixth year of the 10 year gap by now.

DBS did start 6 months after Boo. They literally said so in the first episode.

[HeroR]

I think there is. Bog was 4 years after boo, and Champa arc was at least 6 months and it's been about a year since then.

In DBS, BoG wasn't nearly that long after.

There's definitely a screw up here. Unless Super really does start only six months after Majin Boo was beaten, we're should be in the sixth year of the 10 year gap by now.

DBS did start 6 months after Boo. They literally said so in the first episode.

It didn't. It said six months went by to erased everyone's memories of Majin Buu, then some time past. It was never said that the first episode happened six months after Buu.

[dbs fanboy]

I think that the best thing that could happen to fix all this without being worried about anything, would be if the ending was retconned and then restablished.
I mean, imagine if in the future something bad happens, like multiversal speaking of bad and almost everything is destroyed. After this happens, Goku realizes that everything began when he met Beerus, so he wish with Whis help or anyone who could speak the god language, to reset everything and never meet Beerus in the first place, changing history.

[namekiansaiyan]

I think that the best thing that could happen to fix all this without being worried about anything, would be if the ending was retconned and then restablished.
I mean, imagine if in the future something bad happens, like multiversal speaking of bad and almost everything is destroyed. After this happens, Goku realizes that everything began when he met Beerus, so he wish with Whis help or anyone who could speak the god language, to reset everything and never meet Beerus in the first place, changing history.

I think Toriyama should just change the original ending and then continue onwards. It would make things simpler.

[kinisking]

I think that the best thing that could happen to fix all this without being worried about anything, would be if the ending was retconned and then restablished.
I mean, imagine if in the future something bad happens, like multiversal speaking of bad and almost everything is destroyed. After this happens, Goku realizes that everything began when he met Beerus, so he wish with Whis help or anyone who could speak the god language, to reset everything and never meet Beerus in the first place, changing history.

I think Toriyama should just change the original ending and then continue onwards. It would make things simpler.

Probably, but they should prepare themselves for the onslaught of hatred that fans will produce because they're clinging to a chapter made decades ago

[emperior]

I think there is. Bog was 4 years after boo, and Champa arc was at least 6 months and it's been about a year since then.

In DBS, BoG wasn't nearly that long after.

There's definitely a screw up here. Unless Super really does start only six months after Majin Boo was beaten, we're should be in the sixth year of the 10 year gap by now.

DBS did start 6 months after Boo. They literally said so in the first episode.

It didn't. It said six months went by to erased everyone's memories of Majin Buu, then some time past. It was never said that the first episode happened six months after Buu.

Then the fact the balls are active would mean at least 1 year passed since the wish, so the story could take place 1 year and a half from Buu's defeat. I don't get why it can't be possible. Though I blame Super for being so vague. They should state exactly how much time passes as Toriyama did in the manga (and in the movies too)

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Probably, but they should prepare themselves for the onslaught of hatred that fans will produce because they're clinging to a chapter made decades ago

Obviously Toriyama would never have done it this way, since he has a queer aversion to explaining simple things, but the time ring lore would have been a perfect excuse to abandon the EoZ.

Honestly, I expect DBS to keep going without any regards for the end. I don't even expect that it'll be written over, the time discrepancies just won't be acknowledged st all, as if the time skip never happened. I'm personally okay with that, the continuity is the last thing I'm concerned about in regards to a series already riddled with contradictions.

[Doctor.]

I think that the best thing that could happen to fix all this without being worried about anything, would be if the ending was retconned and then restablished.
I mean, imagine if in the future something bad happens, like multiversal speaking of bad and almost everything is destroyed. After this happens, Goku realizes that everything began when he met Beerus, so he wish with Whis help or anyone who could speak the god language, to reset everything and never meet Beerus in the first place, changing history.

I think Toriyama should just change the original ending and then continue onwards. It would make things simpler.

Probably, but they should prepare themselves for the onslaught of hatred that fans will produce because they're clinging to a chapter made decades ago

Toriyama already changed the ending once with the Kanzenban release, so I don't see why he can't do it again.

[Bullza]

It stills seems kinda messy.

If Dragon Ball began in Age 749 and Bulma is 16 then that means she was born in Age 733 and according to Herms that's what the Daizenshuu and SEG character guides state.

If Bulma is 2 years older than Goku then it'd mean that Goku was born in Age 735. He'd be 3 years old in Age 738. He'd still be 3 throughout a portion of Age 739 so that could fit with Omori's 10 years comment and Beerus' 39 years comment.

I don't see how the Age 737 birthdate could work and it would also mean the original age he gave of 14 was actually the right one and the revised birthdate he gave later is where the Age 737 date came from which the Bardock movies have worked themselves around.

So Toriyama did mess up really because Goku should have been 1 years old in Dragon Ball Minus.

Also Bulma said she was 38 in Battle of Gods when she should be 45.

Where did you get this "Bulma is 2 years older than Goku"? She was born in 733 and Goku in 737, what the other guys said is right.

Bulma was 5 years old in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman. At the same time they said Goku was 3 years old in Dragon Ball Minus. So she's 2 years older. That was the difference originally when Bulma was 16 and Goku was 14 before it was changed.

[GTx10]

It stills seems kinda messy.

If Dragon Ball began in Age 749 and Bulma is 16 then that means she was born in Age 733 and according to Herms that's what the Daizenshuu and SEG character guides state.

If Bulma is 2 years older than Goku then it'd mean that Goku was born in Age 735. He'd be 3 years old in Age 738. He'd still be 3 throughout a portion of Age 739 so that could fit with Omori's 10 years comment and Beerus' 39 years comment.

I don't see how the Age 737 birthdate could work and it would also mean the original age he gave of 14 was actually the right one and the revised birthdate he gave later is where the Age 737 date came from which the Bardock movies have worked themselves around.

So Toriyama did mess up really because Goku should have been 1 years old in Dragon Ball Minus.

Also Bulma said she was 38 in Battle of Gods when she should be 45.

Son is 12 at the beginning of DB. He told Bulma he was 14 because he couldn't count. Roshi taught him math and Son figured out that he's actually 12.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

About the 10 years, well in the manga they just mentioned than 10 years passed, not if they were entirely peaceful.

Mmhm, that's my reference, too. I'm used to seeing criticisms that the new material disturbed the peace. Turns out it was never said to begin with.

I don't think the peace part was the problem, I thought it had been years since they saw each other.

That line came from Bulma though had it come from the narrator then yeah it would have been a bit of a problem. But I'll happily chalk that up to Bulma exaggerating.

[Bullza]

Son is 12 at the beginning of DB. He told Bulma he was 14 because he couldn't count. Roshi taught him math and Son figured out that he's actually 12.

That's right but if Bulma was 4 years older than Goku then Goku should have been 1 years old in Dragon Ball Minus or Bulma should have been 3 years old.

In DB Minus Gine said that Goku had been in the incubator for 3 years. In the same chapter Jaco was sent to Earth and the events of Jaco the Galactic Patrolman happened within days of this and at the end Bulma showed up and they said she was 5 years old.

So if Bulma was 16 at the start of Dragon Ball then Goku should be 14 which he was originally. So I don't know if Toriyama forgot that he retconned his age or something.

[Noah]

Toriyama already changed the ending once with the Kanzenban release, so I don't see why he can't do it again.

He didn't change it, he just expanded it.