Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
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Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
Is it me, Or is Vegeta just simply care only for himself and not his own wife and son? I mean, it looks to me like he's married to his own arrogance. Since I see him mostly hanging around Capsule Corp for himself and mostly going out all the time without his wife and son.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Re: Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
I think you're confusing Vegeta with Goku...
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Buu saga Vegeta and Super Vegeta cares about Bulma and Trunks. But he's like Goku, he doesn't have trouble spending months away from his family to train (like the time he was with Whis, he was there for more time than Goku; he was in the time chamber for three years too).
Goku and Vegeta are aliens, they shoudn't be judged exclusively by human standarts, but they're still more integrated in human culture in general for the time they live on Earth. I do think both of them care about their families.
Goku and Vegeta are aliens, they shoudn't be judged exclusively by human standarts, but they're still more integrated in human culture in general for the time they live on Earth. I do think both of them care about their families.
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Re: Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
I think he cares about it, in his own particular way. If ours doesn't fit his, its OUR problem
For all we know, he may be an excellent husband going by Saiyan standards.

For all we know, he may be an excellent husband going by Saiyan standards.
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Re: Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
He does care too much right now, makes you wonder what will happen if bulma is slapped unconscious..
Oh wait, we do know what happens, he rages and takes on death itself
Oh wait, we do know what happens, he rages and takes on death itself

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Re: Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
We can because they have free will and sadly there are plenty of actual humans that sacrifice their families for things like their careers.Goku and Vegeta are aliens, they shouldn't be judged exclusively by human standards
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Re: Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
I said exclusively. When you're going to analyze the characters you have to take into account they're aliens, but I agree they both live in a human society and human culture has influence on them. You have to considerate both saiyan and human influences on them.ABED wrote:We can because they have free will and sadly there are plenty of actual humans that sacrifice their families for things like their careers.Goku and Vegeta are aliens, they shouldn't be judged exclusively by human standards
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Are we going for in-world explanations, or real-world explanations? Because if we're going for an in-world explanation, I suppose I would say that he's a saiyan who grew up closely adhering to his race's cultural values. Saiyans, being a warrior race, cared far more for fighting than for things like family or love.
Honestly though, that's just me stretching to come up with something. I think the real-world explanation is more appropriate in this case: Toriyama is a good writer, but romance has simply never been his specialty. The only relationship I can think of that is somewhat realistically developed and has something resembling a degree of depth...would be Gohan and Videl. So of course, most of that relationship developed during anime-only filler material.
So I don't think it's that Vegeta doesn't care, it's more so that Toriyama either isn't good at writing about romance or simply knew his target audience--younger boys--too well, and figured they wouldn't want too much time taken away from fighting and action. Or both.
Honestly though, that's just me stretching to come up with something. I think the real-world explanation is more appropriate in this case: Toriyama is a good writer, but romance has simply never been his specialty. The only relationship I can think of that is somewhat realistically developed and has something resembling a degree of depth...would be Gohan and Videl. So of course, most of that relationship developed during anime-only filler material.
So I don't think it's that Vegeta doesn't care, it's more so that Toriyama either isn't good at writing about romance or simply knew his target audience--younger boys--too well, and figured they wouldn't want too much time taken away from fighting and action. Or both.
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."
Re: Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
Have you even watched the buu saga and super? It's very clear that he cares about bulma and trunks a lot.
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Vegeta sacrifices himself for Bulma and Trunks and something about him just makes me feel like he isn't completely asexual like almost every male character in the series, so I would say he cares about as much as Goku does but with actual attraction to his wife.
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Re: Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
Toriyama has also said in an interview that he's uncomfortable writing romance and it's not really his forte. If he really put his mind to it, I think he can write a decent little love story, Gohan and Videl written reasonably well. (Well enough for Dragon Ball anyway)TheBlackPaladin wrote:
So I don't think it's that Vegeta doesn't care, it's more so that Toriyama either isn't good at writing about romance or simply knew his target audience--younger boys--too well, and figured they wouldn't want too much time taken away from fighting and action. Or both.
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Re: Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
He would throw his wife and son into a blender for one extra battle power point.
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Re: Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
I think Vegeta cares, but can still be swayed into spending three years alone with Gokû in the RoSaT for the sake of getting stronger. It's a tightrope walk of sorts.
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Re: Does Vegeta not care for his marriage?
Since the focus of the show is fighting, that's what the main characters are focused on. Marriage seems to be a side gig of sorts for the lesser characters. "Oh, Kuririn's not important anymore -- he got married." "Oh, Gohan doesn't want to be a fighter anymore -- married." "Goku and Vegeta are still interested in fighting -- clearly means that they can leave their wives whenever they feel like it to get stronger!" And these are the heroes of the series.
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I think you're confusing Goku with Super!GokuTheMikado wrote:I think you're confusing Vegeta with Goku...
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Vegeta, unlike Goku does in fact actually care for his marriage. Because At the very least he does know what a kiss is
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Well Z Goku wasn't exactly the perfect father and young Goku thought a wife was food..Dbzfan94 wrote:I think you're confusing Goku with Super!GokuTheMikado wrote:I think you're confusing Vegeta with Goku...
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People saying vegeta is a good father or husband make me laugh. He's not either. Even now he spends the vast majority of his time training instead of being with trunks. He even has a bed over at Beerus' place implying he sleeps there. This man is almost never home. Taking trunks to the park (only to ditch him later) is probably the best thing. Gohan and krillin are the only good dads I need show. Gohan denied a job opportunity from a really respected professional for pan. That would be the equivalent of Vegeta or Goku denying a training opportunity from a Great master to hang out with their kids. Krillin spoils 18 according to her so I wouldn't be surprised if he did the same for marron.
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Changed my mind, he's Goku tier parenting
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Krillin and Gohan are probably the only good parents. They both put their career and family ahead of fighting, something Vegeta and Goku probably won't do. Although Vegeta is almost certainly a better husband than Goku is now. I don't know if he is a better father. Even Piccolo has better parental instincts than them.