The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[TheUltimateNinja]

Good Buu vs Super Perfect Cell

Obviously Good Buu. Good Buu manages to fight Kid Buu better than what SSJ2 Vegeta did, that SSJ2 Vegeta without majin must be around Super Perfect Cell. Good Buu takes this.

Unlike Vegeta Cell can regenerate, and he's also much more intelligent than Buu. Also, the gap in power isn't massive either, they're both SSJ2 tier.

[Lord Beerus]

Good Buu vs Super Perfect Cell

Obviously Good Buu. Good Buu manages to fight Kid Buu better than what SSJ2 Vegeta did, that SSJ2 Vegeta without majin must be around Super Perfect Cell. Good Buu takes this.

Unlike Vegeta Cell can regenerate, and he's also much more intelligent than Buu. Also, the gap in power isn't massive either, they're both SSJ2 tier.

Majin Boo can easily turn Cell into candy though, can't he?

[dragonball0900]

Unlike Vegeta Cell can regenerate, and he's also much more intelligent than Buu. Also, the gap in power isn't massive either, they're both SSJ2 tier.

Cell doesn't regenerate as constantly as Buu. The gap wasn't massive, but it doesn't mean it was small, it's even possible that SSJ2 Vegeta (no majin) could've surpass Super Perfect Cell but with a very small gap. I have Buu winning this fight.

[Kamiccolo9]

Movie 1 Garlic Junior (First Form) vs Garlic Junior's Movie 1 minions. No immortality.

[Zamasu55]

Royal Rumble: Super Perfect Cell vs. Dabura vs. Bojack vs. Broly (movie 8 ) vs. Paikuhan vs. SSJ2 kid Gohan vs. Bio-Broly vs. SSJ2 Vegeta (Buu saga, no Majin) vs. Movie 10 Broly

Super Perfect Cell is much stronger than Dabura, Bojack, Bio Broly (who must also be weaker than Piccolo) and Movie 8 Broly. Now the problem would be Movie 10 Broly, SSJ2 Kid Gohan, Paikuhan and SSJ2 Vegeta. Cell might beat SSJ2 Kid Gohan and SSJ2 Vegeta, but there's still Movie 10 Broly and Paikuhan. I remember Paikuhan beating Cell, but I think it was more of a surprise attack, so I'm not sure what to think of that, since he also fought Goku nearly equally. I think Movie 10 Broly takes this, since I have him stronger than Super Perfect Cell.

Good Buu vs Super Perfect Cell

Obviously Good Buu. Good Buu manages to fight Kid Buu better than what SSJ2 Vegeta did, that SSJ2 Vegeta without majin must be around Super Perfect Cell. Good Buu takes this.

Broly (movie 10) struggled against Ssj2 Gohan (Buu saga). He was stronger, but there wasn't a huge gap between the two.
Paikuhan one-shotting Super Perfect Cell made no sense at all, since he later fought evenly with Ssj Goku (Cell games). So the green man is Ssj tier, nothing more.

Super Perfect Cell = Ssj2 Teen Gohan > Ssj2 Vegeta (Buu saga) > Broly (movie 10) > Dabura >= Ssj2 Gohan (Buu saga) > Broly (movie 8 ) >> Paikuhan >>>> Bio-Broly.

Good Buu manages to to survive that much against Kid Buu only for two specific reasons:
1- His regeneration.
2 - Kid Buu was toying all the time.

[DSB]

EQUAL STATS MATCHUPS :

Nail vs Piccolo [post King kai training , pre nail fusion]

Nail vs Captain Ginyu [Nail cant regenerate , Ginyu cant change bodies]

Cell Games versions: SSj Vegeta vs SSj Gohan [Gohan cant go SSj2]



Normal Stats :

SSj Vegeta and SSj Goku [both at the level when they faced Android 19 , Goku with no Heart Virus] vs Future #17 , #18 [Trunks' Timeline]

[apex_pretador]

Royal Rumble: Super Perfect Cell vs. Dabura vs. Bojack vs. Broly (movie 8 ) vs. Paikuhan vs. SSJ2 kid Gohan vs. Bio-Broly vs. SSJ2 Vegeta (Buu saga, no Majin) vs. Movie 10 Broly

Within moments it becomes SPC, Dabra vs Gohan, vegeta. Broly (M10) just doesn't take sides and randomly attacks gohan, which gives dabra a chance to use his spit and turn both of them into stone. Dabra breaks them both and kills gohan and broly.
SPC and vegeta are evenly matched. Cell lets the beam struggle continue till both of them are near exhaustion, and teleports behind vegeta at the right moment. He puts his hand through vegeta's chest, and turns around to see his body being turned to stone. Dabra materializes a sword and kills a weakened vegeta, and punches away the stone statue of cell.

Dabra wins.

Movie 1 Garlic Junior (First Form) vs Garlic Junior's Movie 1 minions. No immortality.

Garlic wins IMO.

EQUAL STATS MATCHUPS :

Nail vs Piccolo [post King kai training , pre nail fusion]

Nail vs Captain Ginyu [Nail cant regenerate , Ginyu cant change bodies]

Cell Games versions: SSj Vegeta vs SSj Gohan [Gohan cant go SSj2]

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Piccolo. Nail did not show anything.

Nail. Ginyu did nothing.

Vegeta. Gohan just brute-forced his way.

We have nothing to base on for future androids power, but I would still put them above individual super saiyans and then there is disadvantage of sensing power and of infinite stamina.
Androids win.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Broly (movie 10) struggled against Ssj2 Gohan (Buu saga). He was stronger, but there wasn't a huge gap between the two.
Paikuhan one-shotting Super Perfect Cell made no sense at all, since he later fought evenly with Ssj Goku (Cell games). So the green man is Ssj tier, nothing more.

Super Perfect Cell = Ssj2 Teen Gohan > Ssj2 Vegeta (Buu saga) > Broly (movie 10) > Dabura >= Ssj2 Gohan (Buu saga) > Broly (movie 8 ) >> Paikuhan >>>> Bio-Broly.

Good Buu manages to to survive that much against Kid Buu only for two specific reasons:
1- His regeneration.
2 - Kid Buu was toying all the time.

Actually Dabura is only FPSSJ tier since since in the manga Gohan didn't even use SSJ2, and Gohan at that time was probably around the same level as Cell Arc Goku so Dabura would be in the same league as Paikuhan.

[Ki Breaker]

* Current videl vs Videl when she was first introduced ( with no ki control )
* Grade 3 trunks vs androids
* Whis vs Vados
Whis did disagree with Vados being stronger than him, so she shouldn't be assumed stronger
* Pure skill battle with equal powers
Tien vs Piccolo

[Angelus]

Android #16 VS anime Post-Cell Games Piccolo (This means this Piccolo was already beaten up by a Cell Jr. and blasted away by SPC's wing ki blast, and spent even more energy flying up back to the lookout. He doesn't get healed though. He fights #16 immediately)
[No self-destruct or whistling]

[Ki Breaker]

Android #16 VS anime Post-Cell Games Piccolo (This means this Piccolo was already beaten up by a Cell Jr. and blasted away by SPC's wing ki blast, and spent even more energy flying up back to the lookout. He doesn't get healed though. He fights #16 immediately)
[No self-destruct or whistling]

16 should take it, piccolo is really tired at this point

[dragonball0900]

Movie 1 Garlic Junior (First Form) vs Garlic Junior's Movie 1 minions. No immortality.

Given how Garlic Junior manages to defeat Kami easily, I'd say Garlic takes this.

Broly (movie 10) struggled against Ssj2 Gohan (Buu saga). He was stronger, but there wasn't a huge gap between the two.
Paikuhan one-shotting Super Perfect Cell made no sense at all, since he later fought evenly with Ssj Goku (Cell games). So the green man is Ssj tier, nothing more.

Super Perfect Cell = Ssj2 Teen Gohan > Ssj2 Vegeta (Buu saga) > Broly (movie 10) > Dabura >= Ssj2 Gohan (Buu saga) > Broly (movie 8 ) >> Paikuhan >>>> Bio-Broly.

Good Buu manages to to survive that much against Kid Buu only for two specific reasons:
1- His regeneration.
2 - Kid Buu was toying all the time.

Well. Kid Buu was also toying with Vegeta, wasn't he? And Vegeta went down easily.

I agree about Paikuhan, although considering Goku used a Kaioken X2 with SSJ, I'd assume Paikuhan was somewhere below the SSJ2 tier.

I'd say Gohan was SSJ against Dabura. Therefore, SSJ2 Gohan > SSJ Kaioken Goku (Cell Games) > Paikuhan => Dabura > SSJ Gohan >= SSJ Goku (Cell Games)

EQUAL STATS MATCHUPS :

Nail vs Piccolo [post King kai training , pre nail fusion]

Nail vs Captain Ginyu [Nail cant regenerate , Ginyu cant change bodies]

Cell Games versions: SSj Vegeta vs SSj Gohan [Gohan cant go SSj2]



Normal Stats :

SSj Vegeta and SSj Goku [both at the level when they faced Android 19 , Goku with no Heart Virus] vs Future #17 , #18 [Trunks' Timeline]

I'd say Piccolo, since Nail was surprised of his big power.

Obviously Captain Ginyu. Nail is 42K. Ginyu is 120K

Obviously SSJ Gohan. Gohan was stated to be above Goku, who is above Vegeta.

I'm going to say Future Androids.

* Current videl vs Videl when she was first introduced ( with no ki control )
* Grade 3 trunks vs androids
* Whis vs Vados
Whis did disagree with Vados being stronger than him, so she shouldn't be assumed stronger
* Pure skill battle with equal powers
Tien vs Piccolo

I suppose Current Videl.

Obviously Grade 3 Trunks

I'd say Vados, for now. Although I'm not sure.

Piccolo, since he can regenerate. Kikoho can do the trick though.

Android #16 VS anime Post-Cell Games Piccolo (This means this Piccolo was already beaten up by a Cell Jr. and blasted away by SPC's wing ki blast, and spent even more energy flying up back to the lookout. He doesn't get healed though. He fights #16 immediately)
[No self-destruct or whistling]

Piccolo. I have him above USSJ Trunks, who was stronger than Initial Perfect Cell, who was much stronger than ASSJ Vegeta, who was much stronger than Semi Perfect Cell, who was much stronger than A16.
The gap was too big, Piccolo should take this.

[Desassina]

Evil Boo (Super) absorbs Vegeta. Does he win against SSJ3 Goku? Vegeta's power was up to SSJ2 in the Boo saga, before the enraged gag moment, so that's all that Evil Boo could draw from him. Goku wasn't all that bad against the latter with Gotenks absorbed, and Vegeta was only surpassed by Gotenks with SSJ3, according to a few guides. If you feel like using expanded material, Vegeta was fighting alongside the others against Hirudegarn, and considered for his talent in Battle of Gods.

[ryan1227]

Evil Boo (Super) absorbs Vegeta. Does he win against SSJ3 Goku? Vegeta's power was up to SSJ2 in the Boo saga, before the enraged gag moment, so that's all that Evil Boo could draw from him. Goku wasn't all that bad against the latter with Gotenks absorbed, and Vegeta was only surpassed by Gotenks with SSJ3, according to a few guides. If you feel like using expanded material, Vegeta was fighting alongside the others against Hirudegarn, and considered for his talent in Battle of Gods.

Goku never fought Gotenks-Boo in the manga, as he reverts to Piccolo-Boo before he reaches him.

In any case, Boo doesn't need to absorb Vegeta to slaughter Goku.

[Desassina]

... Don't be that guy. The anime is clearly a Dragon Ball product.

[ryan1227]

If this is their anime powers then Goku would pulverize this Boo with one blast because he fought on par with anime Pure Boo, who his stronger than Gohan-Boo. He also fought on par with Ultimate Gohan in his base form.

[Desassina]

What's with this bitter attitude? So you can reason with a few statements on the manga, when there are others pointing to the same thing in the anime, but you decide to call them separate versions due to a few differences? The anime follows a few guidelines by Toriyama. It's not like he has gone out of his way to contradict it, so with all due respect, let's get back on topic, and cut it with the elitism.

[DanielSSJ]

EQUAL STATS MATCHUPS :

Nail vs Piccolo [post King kai training , pre nail fusion]

Nail vs Captain Ginyu [Nail cant regenerate , Ginyu cant change bodies]

Cell Games versions: SSj Vegeta vs SSj Gohan [Gohan cant go SSj2]



Normal Stats :

SSj Vegeta and SSj Goku [both at the level when they faced Android 19 , Goku with no Heart Virus] vs Future #17 , #18 [Trunks' Timeline]

- The two are dead even in hand to hand, though Piccolo might have a slight advantage in that he has a particularly lethal attack (i.e Makankosappo), but it could go either way. I'll go with Piccolo because he's cooler.
- The Saiyan and Freeza arcs make it pretty clear that while Space-Thug types like the Saiyans and Freeza's soldiers typically have an advantage over the Earthlings in raw power, the Earthlings are superior when it comes to the spiritual side of things. The Namekians aren't lacking in spiritual training, and Nail is a prodigy among their race. Without his power advantage, Captain Ginyu easily succumbs to the Namekian Warrior.
- Gohan has better stamina, but that's about it. Vegeta is vastly more experienced and lacks the same hesitation that Gohan would possess. When set on equal terms, Vegeta would lose handily.
- To me, the future Androids are roughly as strong as Goku and Vegeta. However they still possess superior stamina and would have much better teamwork skills than the Saiyans. Unless if Goku and Vegeta can pull their shit together, the Androids will sweep them.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Are we allowed to propose fights here that do not involve DB characters?

[Khin]

Are we allowed to propose fights here that do not involve DB characters?

This is a Dragon Ball-exclusive forum, so most likely no.

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