Goku is a mass murderer

[Polyphase Avatron]

Or at least an accessory to murder/genocide of entire planets and civilizations.

I just realized this. When he fought Beerus, we saw at least one planet destroyed, and since this kind of thing was happening all over the universe, it probably wasn't the only one. How many of those planets were inhabited? A good amount I bet. Goku probably killed more people in those few minutes than Freeza did in his entire lifetime. And no one even considered it, or thought of using the Dragonballs to wish any of them back or fix any of the damage.

[Merged Zamasu]

Or at least an accessory to murder/genocide of entire planets and civilizations.

I just realized this. When he fought Beerus, we saw at least one planet destroyed, and since this kind of thing was happening all over the universe, it probably wasn't the only one. How many of those planets were inhabited? A good amount I bet. Goku probably killed more people in those few minutes than Freeza did in his entire lifetime. And no one even considered it, or thought of using the Dragonballs to wish any of them back or fix any of the damage.

This shows how psycopath and hypocrite Goku is. Oh, Zamasu is so evil, because he destroyed countless planets and innocents! Pfff, as if Goku were any different. Zamasu's Zero-Mortal Plan was justified and right. Goku is but a murderer, a fool, who uses his god-given wisdom and strenght only to cause violence throughout the Universe. But everyone is blind, too arrogant to understand Zamasu's true intentions. The Universe would be a better place without mortals the likes of Goku, who are only a danger to the well-being of everyone. Ah, poor Zamasu. His ideals were 100% right, unfortunately he was surrounded by retards who can't get past the "evil = wrong, good = right" mentality.

[Gog]

He is, but he musn't have actually have thought about it.
Or perhaps he did.

[Lord Beerus]

I highly doubt that Goku had any idea the damage that was caused when he was fighting Beerus.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I highly doubt that Goku had any idea the damage that was caused when he was fighting Beerus.

The Kaioshin should have told him and then demanded they gather the Dragonballs and wish it undone.

[Saiyan007]

Except if I recall the episode after the fight those aliens who were afraid of dogs wanted to congratulate the hero who defeare Beerus.He even said the while universe is celebrating.

I highly doubt the universe would be celebrating if the majority of their planets got wiped out besides if anything blame Beerus.It's not like Goku could've stopped fighting him if he had surrendered Beerus would've just killed him and blew up earth.


If he knew Goku was not going to give him a fight because it's causing to much damage to the universe Beerus would have more than likely destroyed half of the universe and demand Goku fights him or else he would destroy the other half.

[Ki Breaker]

It's not like Goku could've stopped fighting him if he had surrendered Beerus would've just killed him and blew up earth.

Yup, he made the right call

[FoolsGil]

You don't know if it was inhabited or not.

[Akira]

Interesting thought, while I didn't think about it much during that fight, I have had similar thoughts at other points in the series. For example, when Vegeta used the Final Flash against Perfect Cell, we are shown a shot of the blast skimming the edge of the planet earth, and then firing off randomly into space with a little sparkle in the distance. Gohan's Kamehameha that finished Cell off was also seen flying off into space, although that beam was shown to disappear after burning Cell to bits, so I always thought it less likely it got far enough out of earth's orbit to do damage elsewhere.

When Buu was destroying cities and people with Babbidi, Goku went to confront them and stall for time. When he showed the Super Saiyan forms, and pushed up to Super Saiyan 3, the whole earth shook. Master Roshi and Krillin made comments about Goku possibly wrecking everything on the planet, and we see cut away shots to tidal waves overtaking coastal cities, and building collapsing from the earthquakes. I knew all of that was eventually undone with the Dragonballs, but always wondered how many people were crushed or drown not because of Buu, but because of Goku.

All these things are definitely interesting to wonder about.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Or at least an accessory to murder/genocide of entire planets and civilizations.

I just realized this. When he fought Beerus, we saw at least one planet destroyed, and since this kind of thing was happening all over the universe, it probably wasn't the only one. How many of those planets were inhabited? A good amount I bet. Goku probably killed more people in those few minutes than Freeza did in his entire lifetime. And no one even considered it, or thought of using the Dragonballs to wish any of them back or fix any of the damage.

We don´t know if those planets were inhabited or not.

Majin Buu still killed more lifes than anyone else (outside of perhaps Future Zen-O) since it destroyed hundreads of planets ever since the creation of the universe.

[dragon boss z]

That whole scene is filler. Not in the manga or Toriyama's manuscript.

[dragon boss z]

Or at least an accessory to murder/genocide of entire planets and civilizations.

I just realized this. When he fought Beerus, we saw at least one planet destroyed, and since this kind of thing was happening all over the universe, it probably wasn't the only one. How many of those planets were inhabited? A good amount I bet. Goku probably killed more people in those few minutes than Freeza did in his entire lifetime. And no one even considered it, or thought of using the Dragonballs to wish any of them back or fix any of the damage.

This shows how psycopath and hypocrite Goku is. Oh, Zamasu is so evil, because he destroyed countless planets and innocents! Pfff, as if Goku were any different. Zamasu's Zero-Mortal Plan was justified and right. Goku is but a murderer, a fool, who uses his god-given wisdom and strenght only to cause violence throughout the Universe. But everyone is blind, too arrogant to understand Zamasu's true intentions. The Universe would be a better place without mortals the likes of Goku, who are only a danger to the well-being of everyone. Ah, poor Zamasu. His ideals were 100% right, unfortunately he was surrounded by retards who can't get past the "evil = wrong, good = right" mentality.

How is killing all mortals to stop them from killing each other a good thing? That's completely illogical. "Hey guys to stop some mortals from killing each other let's just kill all of them ourselves!"

[Merged Zamasu]

Or at least an accessory to murder/genocide of entire planets and civilizations.

I just realized this. When he fought Beerus, we saw at least one planet destroyed, and since this kind of thing was happening all over the universe, it probably wasn't the only one. How many of those planets were inhabited? A good amount I bet. Goku probably killed more people in those few minutes than Freeza did in his entire lifetime. And no one even considered it, or thought of using the Dragonballs to wish any of them back or fix any of the damage.

This shows how psycopath and hypocrite Goku is. Oh, Zamasu is so evil, because he destroyed countless planets and innocents! Pfff, as if Goku were any different. Zamasu's Zero-Mortal Plan was justified and right. Goku is but a murderer, a fool, who uses his god-given wisdom and strenght only to cause violence throughout the Universe. But everyone is blind, too arrogant to understand Zamasu's true intentions. The Universe would be a better place without mortals the likes of Goku, who are only a danger to the well-being of everyone. Ah, poor Zamasu. His ideals were 100% right, unfortunately he was surrounded by retards who can't get past the "evil = wrong, good = right" mentality.

How is killing all mortals to stop them from killing each other a good thing? That's completely illogical. "Hey guys to stop some mortals from killing each other let's just kill all of them ourselves!"

That was but the first step of Zamasu's Plan. He wanted to build an utopian, glorious and peaceful Universe, a Universe that did not require mortals. If a system is flawed, that system has to be changed, like Zamasu correctly realized.

[Yomi]

This shows how psycopath and hypocrite Goku is. Oh, Zamasu is so evil, because he destroyed countless planets and innocents! Pfff, as if Goku were any different. Zamasu's Zero-Mortal Plan was justified and right. Goku is but a murderer, a fool, who uses his god-given wisdom and strenght only to cause violence throughout the Universe. But everyone is blind, too arrogant to understand Zamasu's true intentions. The Universe would be a better place without mortals the likes of Goku, who are only a danger to the well-being of everyone. Ah, poor Zamasu. His ideals were 100% right, unfortunately he was surrounded by retards who can't get past the "evil = wrong, good = right" mentality.

How did you flip that into Zamasu Persecution? O_0 lel.

[Merged Zamasu]

This shows how psycopath and hypocrite Goku is. Oh, Zamasu is so evil, because he destroyed countless planets and innocents! Pfff, as if Goku were any different. Zamasu's Zero-Mortal Plan was justified and right. Goku is but a murderer, a fool, who uses his god-given wisdom and strenght only to cause violence throughout the Universe. But everyone is blind, too arrogant to understand Zamasu's true intentions. The Universe would be a better place without mortals the likes of Goku, who are only a danger to the well-being of everyone. Ah, poor Zamasu. His ideals were 100% right, unfortunately he was surrounded by retards who can't get past the "evil = wrong, good = right" mentality.

How did you flip that into Zamasu Persecution? O_0 lel.

You can never have enough Zamasu in your life

Well, it was to compare what Goku did to what Zamasu did, and ponder about the fact that Zamasu is universally hated for blowing up innocents planets...but Goku and Vegeta kinda did the same in the past? My final goal is still to discuss Goku's actions, not Zamasu's, i just took Zamasu as an example to realize what Goku actually did.

[YonedgeHP]

That whole scene is filler. Not in the manga or Toriyama's manuscript.

The manga is promotional. And wow, not trying to be rude but you are the first person who I know that saw Toriyama's outline.

[Gog]

Of course he is Goku is secretly the ultimate threat to all twelve universes, and Freeza was right for fearing the sayians, and-and 'how?' What has led you to believe that Goku is a mass murderer, nothing even suggests such a thing.

[Lord Frieza]

To be fare to Goku, he was using a form and power he barley understood while fighting a God of Destruction who was not exactly doing anything to control his own ki either. In-fact I theorize that its Beerus's ki thats actually responsible for the damage when it reacts with Goku's god ki. Similar to how Beerus and Champas ki reacted when they clashed and the the could destroy both universes if none stopped them.

So while Goku had a hand in the events the primary blame lies with Beerus and since he is the God of Destruction well all that death and destruction is just a days work for him.

[dragon boss z]

This shows how psycopath and hypocrite Goku is. Oh, Zamasu is so evil, because he destroyed countless planets and innocents! Pfff, as if Goku were any different. Zamasu's Zero-Mortal Plan was justified and right. Goku is but a murderer, a fool, who uses his god-given wisdom and strenght only to cause violence throughout the Universe. But everyone is blind, too arrogant to understand Zamasu's true intentions. The Universe would be a better place without mortals the likes of Goku, who are only a danger to the well-being of everyone. Ah, poor Zamasu. His ideals were 100% right, unfortunately he was surrounded by retards who can't get past the "evil = wrong, good = right" mentality.

How is killing all mortals to stop them from killing each other a good thing? That's completely illogical. "Hey guys to stop some mortals from killing each other let's just kill all of them ourselves!"

That was but the first step of Zamasu's Plan. He wanted to build an utopian, glorious and peaceful Universe, a Universe that did not require mortals. If a system is flawed, that system has to be changed, like Zamasu correctly realized.

But some gods are just as bad as some mortals. A better plan would of been to kill evil mortals and let the good ones survive. Namekians were a completely peaceful race. There would be no reason to kill them.

[dragon boss z]

That whole scene is filler. Not in the manga or Toriyama's manuscript.

The manga is promotional. And wow, not trying to be rude but you are the first person who I know that saw Toriyama's outline.

There is no official canon and Toyotaro seems to not Toriyama better than Toei consider he was interviewed with him and Toriyama said he wouldn't even mind if Toyotaro came up with ideas for Super...
Also it's pretty obvious what's in the manuscript. It's whatever shows up in both the manga and anime. The shockwaves were in the manuscript, but I doubt the destruction of innocent planets were considering Toyotaro would of just added a pannel or just mentioned that if it was in the manuscript.

Also Toyotaro seems to be following closer to the manuscript. Supossedly Torimama's manuscript said Black goes normal ssj, and then he goes ssj of a different color, but Toei skipped the normal ssj while Toyotaro didn't. SSB Kaioken is another thing that Toei most likely made up.