Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Ajay » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:38 pm

Shreyas_Singh wrote: Sometimes I feel a little guilty of not contributing much to the conversation since I have very little knowledge, but I try.
Nobody should ever feel guilty about or afraid of contributing in this thread, or anywhere else on the site, for that matter.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:42 pm

Shreyas_Singh wrote: PS: Sometimes I feel a little guilty of not contributing much to the conversation since I have very little knowledge, but I try.
I'm constantly learning! When this thread started I didn't know jack. Stick around, read some articles online and just try to take part in discussions, you'll learn stuff.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:50 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Shreyas_Singh wrote: PS: Sometimes I feel a little guilty of not contributing much to the conversation since I have very little knowledge, but I try.
I'm constantly learning! When this thread started I didn't know jack. Stick around, read some articles online and just try to take part in discussions, you'll learn stuff.
Same with all of us, really. Hell, I can only pick out a few unique animators' styles specifically, and can usually spot corrections from anybody. I've been around for months.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Shreyas_Singh » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:14 pm

Thanks for the kind words guys , I'll keep learning more stuff about animation :thumbup:
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:21 pm

So after going back and forth on whether Naoki Tate animated a certain segment of a fight in the Trunks arc, I decide to re-watch the scene of Gokuu Black versus Vegeta. It turns out that Tate didn't draw a single key frame in this scene. It wasn't even a correction. It's rather by Shuuichiro Manabe, a guy well known for his extreme angular designs and ferocious expression. There's a minor correction by Tsuji, but it's mostly done by Manabe himself.

So, it looks like we may have found a gem for an action animator as a part of Dragon Ball Super's staff. This guy can do his stuff pretty good.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Ajay » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:34 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:So after going back and forth on whether Naoki Tate animated a certain segment of a fight in the Trunks arc, I decide to re-watch the scene of Gokuu Black versus Vegeta. It turns out that Tate didn't draw a single key frame in this scene. It wasn't even a correction. It's rather by Shuuichiro Manabe, a guy well known for his extreme angular designs and ferocious expression. There's a minor correction by Tsuji, but it's mostly done by Manabe himself.
Indeed -- definitely agree. I went back and forth on it a lot at the time, too. The primary things that lead me to the Tate conclusion were the pointy feet and the line work. You also had the Tate-esque facial expression at the end that just looks like Manabe's usual corrections over Tate. Once episode #66 rolled around and we saw Manabe in action properly, it was pretty clear it was purely him.

Small correction to your point though: Tsuji didn't work on the episode. The correction I assume you're referring to is likely by Takeo Ide.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:32 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:So after going back and forth on whether Naoki Tate animated a certain segment of a fight in the Trunks arc, I decide to re-watch the scene of Gokuu Black versus Vegeta. It turns out that Tate didn't draw a single key frame in this scene. It wasn't even a correction. It's rather by Shuuichiro Manabe, a guy well known for his extreme angular designs and ferocious expression. There's a minor correction by Tsuji, but it's mostly done by Manabe himself.

So, it looks like we may have found a gem for an action animator as a part of Dragon Ball Super's staff. This guy can do his stuff pretty good.
Nice find, I always thought it was Tate because of how the animation looked at the end of the fight when Vegeta was delivering a barrage of punches.
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You also had the Tate-esque facial expression at the end that just looks like Manabe's usual corrections over Tate. Once episode #66 rolled around and we saw Manabe in action properly, it was pretty clear it was purely him.
This last example looks like Manabe's style a lot, especially the nose.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Nejishiki » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:55 am

Gashif Aldi wrote:Anyone know when is the Black Goku arc's Blu-Ray official release?
I'm searching for the official soundtrack Desperate Assault, but I couldn't find it anywhere.
I was assuming if Yammamuro already finished the cover for it, maybe the Blu-Ray is out for sale (since the official soundtrack is in the Blu-Ray).

I know this is kinda Off-Topic, but every soundtrack that I found is completely ripped off from the episodes.
Blu-ray box sets for the Future Trunks arc's episodes of Dragon Ball Super started its release 04 October, 2016. You can purchase DVDs single sets, as well.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:46 am

Ajay! I have a little request to ask of you. You dont have to do it if you dont want to, but its just an idea



If you can, Add 3 new spaces for the other 3 supervisors working on Super,(Koji Nashizawa, Hiroyuki Sakai/Itai, And Kaori Takamura) And add in their picture and animator info, say, "In progress" Or anything of your choice.


because a lot of people who use this thread dont know of the other supervisors and what they've done.

Again, You dont have to, but its just an idea :thumbup:
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Ajay » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:03 am

SaiyanGod117 wrote: This last example looks like Manabe's style a lot, especially the nose.
You misunderstand me. I wasn't ever calling it pure Tate -- the whole thing is Manabe, I had just assumed previously that it was a correction. It was the squinty eye; it's a very Tate thing.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Gashif Aldi » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:04 am

Nejishiki wrote:
Gashif Aldi wrote:Anyone know when is the Black Goku arc's Blu-Ray official release?
I'm searching for the official soundtrack Desperate Assault, but I couldn't find it anywhere.
I was assuming if Yammamuro already finished the cover for it, maybe the Blu-Ray is out for sale (since the official soundtrack is in the Blu-Ray).

I know this is kinda Off-Topic, but every soundtrack that I found is completely ripped off from the episodes.
Blu-ray box sets for the Future Trunks arc's episodes of Dragon Ball Super started its release 04 October, 2016. You can purchase DVDs single sets, as well.
I mean, the soundtracks are also released within the Blu-Ray right? Well, then no one have the official.
Guess I'm gonna be waiting...
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:40 am

Ajay wrote:
SaiyanGod117 wrote: This last example looks like Manabe's style a lot, especially the nose.
You misunderstand me. I wasn't ever calling it pure Tate -- the whole thing is Manabe, I had just assumed previously that it was a correction. It was the squinty eye; it's a very Tate thing.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Ajay » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:48 am

The image for episode 74 has leaked:

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Can't quite tell if that's Kitano or Kinoshita (or whoever we want to associate Wanpack with). Could be anyone.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:55 am

Ajay wrote:The image for episode 74 has leaked:

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Can't quite tell if that's Kitano or Kinoshita (or whoever we want to associate Wanpack with). Could be anyone.

Oh, so they'll continue the saiya-man movie to 74. To me that kinda looks like kitano. the ear resembles tsuji's:( http://prntscr.com/ds7yhs) But If it IS kitano, he would have 8 weeks Minus some 2nd KA for 69. So hopefully the art should look good throughout!

But i really hope its Wanpack since i want Toei to outsource as much animation as possible

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Ajay » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:05 am

iAnimationLover_ wrote:the ear resembles tsuji's:( http://prntscr.com/ds7yhs)
I can see what you mean in terms of the shape, but Tsuji's ears are usually significantly thicker and bulbous. The inner ear detail here sits a bit too close to the edge for what's normally Tsuji, I think.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:36 am

Ajay wrote:
iAnimationLover_ wrote:the ear resembles tsuji's:( http://prntscr.com/ds7yhs)
I can see what you mean in terms of the shape, but Tsuji's ears are usually significantly thicker and bulbous. The inner ear detail here sits a bit too close to the edge for what's normally Tsuji, I think.


Now that i look at it again it looks like kitano >_> http://prntscr.com/ds8crm




Btw, could you scroll up this page and look at my other post? I think its a good idea xD

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Gashif Aldi » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:50 am

Ajay wrote:The image for episode 74 has leaked:

Image

Can't quite tell if that's Kitano or Kinoshita (or whoever we want to associate Wanpack with). Could be anyone.
I thought I was looking at another anime. Lol.
But it looks like most animators are always good at drawing other characters than the main ones. Are Dragon Ball Super Characters Design is really that hard to draw?
If that's the case, then the staff is probably able to handle Slice of Life animes xD.

Dang, that background though. It's pretty sharp-looking.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:40 am

Gashif Aldi wrote:
But it looks like most animators are always good at drawing other characters than the main ones


I didnt know piccolo was a main character!


jk :>

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:49 pm

Ajay wrote:The image for episode 74 has leaked:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Even though Toriyama is the character designer for both, this shot reminded me more of Dragon Quest and Blue Dragon than Dragon Ball.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:36 pm

Ajay wrote:The image for episode 74 has leaked:

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Can't quite tell if that's Kitano or Kinoshita (or whoever we want to associate Wanpack with). Could be anyone.
I'm getting such a PreCure vibe from this.

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