Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

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Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by ZPolk01 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:06 pm

I'm curious as to why there can only be up to 10 Fighters for each team in the Universal Tournament, I mean, there are 12 universes, so why not 12 Fighters? So, for our 10 Fighters from Universe 7, we have Son Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Son Gohan, Majin Boo, Kuririn, Cyborg (Android)#18, Cyborg (Android)#17, Tenshinhan, and the Turtle Hermit/Master Roshi. If there were 12 Fighters allowed instead, then Goten and Trunks could be in Tournament to and people can stop complaining about the Human fighters (Kuririn/Tenshinhan/Master Roshi), despite the fact that they are strong, they're just outclassed by Piccolo, the Androids, the half-blooded Saiyans and the full-blooded Saiyans, so if Goten and Trunks were on the team, there would be less complaints, plus, it's the closest thing we'll get to a Z-Fighter team like the DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters International Credits(https://youtu.be/q2-LW5Lhnkk), Dragon Ball Super Ending 3, and the end of reanimated Cha-La-Head-Cha-La intro for Yo! Son Goku and his Friends Return. So, leave your thoughts to why there aren't up to 12 Fighters allowed in the tournament below.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by SsjCookie » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:56 am

ZPolk01 wrote:I'm curious as to why there can only be up to 10 Fighters for each team in the Universal Tournament, I mean, there are 12 universes, so why not 12 Fighters? So, for our 10 Fighters from Universe 7, we have Son Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Son Gohan, Majin Boo, Kuririn, Cyborg (Android)#18, Cyborg (Android)#17, Tenshinhan, and the Turtle Hermit/Master Roshi. If there were 12 Fighters allowed instead, then Goten and Trunks could be in Tournament to and people can stop complaining about the Human fighters (Kuririn/Tenshinhan/Master Roshi), despite the fact that they are strong, they're just outclassed by Piccolo, the Androids, the half-blooded Saiyans and the full-blooded Saiyans, so if Goten and Trunks were on the team, there would be less complaints, plus, it's the closest thing we'll get to a Z-Fighter team like the DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters International Credits(https://youtu.be/q2-LW5Lhnkk), Dragon Ball Super Ending 3, and the end of reanimated Cha-La-Head-Cha-La intro for Yo! Son Goku and his Friends Return. So, leave your thoughts to why there aren't up to 12 Fighters allowed in the tournament below.
Beats me, it certainly doesn't make any sense. :?
Goten and Trunks are teenagers however and are still rather inexperienced no matter how powerful they are.
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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by Doctor. » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:03 am

10 is a nice, aesthetically-pleasing number.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by Neon Z » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:04 am

Giving screentime to 10 characters likely will be hard, 12 would only make it worse. Goten also suffers from the issue that he just doesn't work as a standalone character, but only a partner for Trunks.

Regarding the in-story logic, we haven't gotten there yet, so complaints about it seem silly since we don't know how this team is gathered in the first place.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:04 am

Have 12 but the other 2 should be Yamcha and Chaiotzu.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:41 am

10 sounds nice dosen't it? A number like 13 dosen't..
The next best no is 20, we don't have that many fighters
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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by Simere » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:12 am

10 is more than I think most of us thought there were going to be.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by ZPolk01 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:17 pm

Neon Z wrote:Giving screentime to 10 characters likely will be hard, 12 would only make it worse. Goten also suffers from the issue that he just doesn't work as a standalone character, but only a partner for Trunks.

Regarding the in-story logic, we haven't gotten there yet, so complaints about it seem silly since we don't know how this team is gathered in the first place.
Yeah, but by the End of Z, I don't feel like he's a partner for Trunks, I feel like he's his own character, especially by GT.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by ZPolk01 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:35 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:Have 12 but the other 2 should be Yamcha and Chaiotzu.
That would be interesting, but, remember, in Ressurection F, Tenshinhan said Freeza's minions were too dangerous for Yamcha and Chaozu. Plus, although noncanon, in Xenoverse, Ten said that Choazu was weak. Plus, you know Yamcha and his losing streak, so yeah.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by SSJ Human » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:08 pm

Probably to give focus to each of them, which thanks to my lack of faith in this series when it comes to larger arcs, I doubt that will be the case.

Some have said 10 is too many, though I disagree, given that we've had arcs before in this franchise that were more than capable of giving ten characters at least one defining moment.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by Smilodon » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:13 pm

I think 10 fighters for each universe is too much. I can't see any need of having more fighters.

I mean, of course if we could have more fighters and more cooll fights it would be amazing...But we are talking about dragon ball. I'm sure we won't have more than 5 rellevant fighters in all remaing universes. They'll probably put some fighters like Bacterian, Oruga, Botamo...And 1 rellevant fighter from some universes. And some universes would have very weak fighters (like the fighters from South galaxy in Ano-yo'ichi Budōkai).

In a perfect world we would have all this year for this tournament. Very good fights, tons of goods characters...But I doubt Toriyama would make this tournament like this. It would be only a few good fighters. I bet it would be 5 and Hitto. Kyabe could be SSJB and another sayajin SSJB too...And nothing else.
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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by Cetra » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:19 pm

10 are already too much considering 80% of them will be thrown out of the tournament unspectacularly anyway. And if this tournament is going to be anything like the last one I would rather have this saga not exist at all.
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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by Jaetinh » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:24 pm

ZPolk01 wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Have 12 but the other 2 should be Yamcha and Chaiotzu.
That would be interesting, but, remember, in Ressurection F, Tenshinhan said Freeza's minions were too dangerous for Yamcha and Chaozu. Plus, although noncanon, in Xenoverse, Ten said that Choazu was weak. Plus, you know Yamcha and his losing streak, so yeah.
They changed Tenshinhan's line in DBS, didn't they? Well, Roshi did decent against them, Yamcha would had done much better. He's the third strongest Earthling.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:26 pm

Cetra wrote:10 are already too much considering 80% of them will be thrown out of the tournament unspectacularly anyway. And if this tournament is going to be anything like the last one I would rather have this saga not exist at all.
Having 10 makes sure the Universe wins and not the best fighter wins. All 10 will surely have to contribute.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by kinisking » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:51 pm

Jaetinh wrote:
ZPolk01 wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Have 12 but the other 2 should be Yamcha and Chaiotzu.
That would be interesting, but, remember, in Ressurection F, Tenshinhan said Freeza's minions were too dangerous for Yamcha and Chaozu. Plus, although noncanon, in Xenoverse, Ten said that Choazu was weak. Plus, you know Yamcha and his losing streak, so yeah.
They changed Tenshinhan's line in DBS, didn't they? Well, Roshi did decent against them, Yamcha would had done much better. He's the third strongest Earthling.
They'res major hints that he stopped training though
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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by Cetra » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:34 pm


Having 10 makes sure the Universe wins and not the best fighter wins. All 10 will surely have to contribute.

Completely unnecessary response. It does not change the fact that most of them will unspectacularly be thrown out as they have to still present some actual challenges from other universes and they cannot have all of Universe 7 be "the big deal". They eventually have to go.
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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by Hakaishin Saitama » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:56 pm

I was actually surprised so many fighters were going to be on each team - I was expecting U6 vs. U7 format (five each). That is going to result in an insane number of matches, the total depending on actual format. That being said, in single elimination 1 vs. 1 you could have upwards of 120 matches to decide #1 fighter.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:47 pm

Cetra wrote:

Having 10 makes sure the Universe wins and not the best fighter wins. All 10 will surely have to contribute.

Completely unnecessary response. It does not change the fact that most of them will unspectacularly be thrown out as they have to still present some actual challenges from other universes and they cannot have all of Universe 7 be "the big deal". They eventually have to go.
You do realise this is not a single participant tournament but a team tournament. They either get knocked out together or go through together.

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by Nejishiki » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:31 am

Jaetinh wrote:They changed Tenshinhan's line in DBS, didn't they? Well, Roshi did decent against them, Yamcha would had done much better. He's the third strongest Earthling.
Tenshinhan's comment about Yamcha is omitted from his dialogue, yes. Dragon Ball Super's anime continuity skipped citing a motive for his absence. Considering that in-universe, Yamcha's future remark is a bit strange now. I wonder why he felt the need to mock Tenshinhan?

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Re: Why are there only 10 Fighters in the Universal Tournament

Post by NintendoBlaze53 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:55 am

Nejishiki wrote:
Jaetinh wrote:They changed Tenshinhan's line in DBS, didn't they? Well, Roshi did decent against them, Yamcha would had done much better. He's the third strongest Earthling.
Tenshinhan's comment about Yamcha is omitted from his dialogue, yes. Dragon Ball Super's anime continuity skipped citing a motive for his absence. Considering that in-universe, Yamcha's future remark is a bit strange now. I wonder why he felt the need to mock Tenshinhan?
I don't know if it's an inbetween, but the look on Gohan's face in that first pic makes it look like he's one of the few members of the Chiaotzu fan base and is very disappointed in Tenshinhan for not bringing him. It cracks me up :lol:
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