"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Araki]

Vegeta in GT was a legitimately good dad unlike Z or Super.

And?

And was a better character than his Super counterpart for sure.

No way in hell. Crap lines like "I'm an earthling!!!" make no sense and cross the line. There's also the Budokai episode where he acts like a retard. Not to mention he spends more than half his screentime possessed...and then being useless.

[kinisking]

Vegeta in super is way better than he was in GT. His moments with Trunks such as his speech to keep trying hard, father son Galic gun, and him saying it'll be okay in episode 50 are some of his best moments in all of dragonBall. Then they'res him with kyabe, his quiet beatdown of freeza, my bulma and the speech he gives to black about goku. All of these show great character development.

[Noah]

And was a better character than his Super counterpart for sure.

No way in hell. Crap lines like "I'm an earthling!!!" make no sense and cross the line. There's also the Budokai episode where he acts like a retard. Not to mention he spends more than half his screentime possessed...and then being useless.

I can only agree with that line, even though I don't have much problem with it. But for me Vegeta in GT is a better character than his Super counterpart as he is more consistent with the speech he made in the battle against Boo and in the end of the manga. He is not a caricature of his past self: always grump, obsessed with Goku, having difficulty showing affection towards his wife and constantly humiliating himself to people like Beerus as in Super e.g. Even though he had nice moments with Future Trunks in the last arc, I expected more from him in this series in terms of personality.

[ailema88]

Gohan fans will be happy with this

[spoiler]https://www.instagram.com/p/BPA1_FsDdkW/[/spoiler]

[Alee9977]

Gohan fans will be happy with this

[spoiler]https://www.instagram.com/p/BPA1_FsDdkW/[/spoiler]

What is it? I don't understand what it says

[Noah]

Is this Toyotaro official Instagram account? Master like apprentice it seems he isn't the kind of guy that likes showing himself very often lol

[ailema88]

Is this Toyotaro official Instagram account? Master like apprentice it seems he isn't the kind of guy that likes showing himself very often lol

Yes it is.. he has twitter too.

[kinisking]

Gohan fans will be happy with this

[spoiler]https://www.instagram.com/p/BPA1_FsDdkW/[/spoiler]

A drawing that's been out for months?

[Muffin Man]

I'll be happy about Gohan when he participates in a fight without getting wrecked.

[WhatsUpPigeons]

I think post is referring to Gohan's bang that he did not have in the promo art

[dbgtFO]

Gohan fans will be happy with this

[spoiler]https://www.instagram.com/p/BPA1_FsDdkW/[/spoiler]

I am guessing you think this is new and has something to do with the upcoming arc?
It does not. It is the promo pic for the Battle of Gods arc back in the very first chapter.

[Ki Breaker]

Gohan fans will be happy with this

[spoiler]https://www.instagram.com/p/BPA1_FsDdkW/[/spoiler]

Why would I be happy about a bog poster?
Unless you figured this is new.. it's really old actually

[sangofe]

Best wishes for Toriyama.

And that reminds me... If Toriyama needs to retire, shouldn't that "Dragon Ball Room" be active and take lead of this new saga and stuff beyond?

Maybe his health is the reason that room was found.

We know he had help with the Zamasu arc so chances are he's getting help with this arc as well.

"help" is probably a bad word choice. He got the idea to start it. Like he's always gotten ideas from editors, I think (but can't be totally sure).

[emperior]

Hope it's nothing too serious with Toriyama and that he can solve his problems.

[Ki Breaker]

If toriyama is indeed sick, I hope it's not bad, I would still want one thing for him to do regardless,
Many mangas I like remained incomplete and received a half assed ending from companies mainly because the mangaka, let's say, couldn't continue his work because of health issues..
Keeping this in mind toriyama should completely plan the ending of Dragonball from his vision and keep it stored away, for it to get completed in his way regardless if he is involved or not..

[Jinzoningen MULE]

If toriyama is indeed sick, I hope it's not bad, I would still want one thing for him to do regardless,
Many mangas I like remained incomplete and received a half assed ending from companies mainly because the mangaka, let's say, couldn't continue his work because of health issues..
Keeping this in mind toriyama should completely plan the ending of Dragonball from his vision and keep it stored away, for it to get completed in his way regardless if he is involved or not..

Dragon Ball will keep going regardless of whether Toriyama is involved or not... well, at least as far as I can reason. First off, let's not forget that Toriyama's actual Dragon Ball manga finished decades ago (or a few years ago, depending on whether or not you count Jaco), so we always have that core story that was completed. However, even if Toriyama were to quit (or, fate forbid, he dies), there's enough lore that's been set up just in recent years that writers could make new Toriyama-esque content for years. Granted, many would write such a product off as non-canon, and others wouldn't like it just because Toriyama's name isn't attached. However, that leads into my next point; the writers nowadays seem to get Toriyama nowadays in a way they never have before. Whether it be the anime writers or Toyotaro, they both do a fine job of mixing Toriyama's immature humor with the tone of the narrative. Sometimes to the detriment of certain viewers, since Goku often comes off very Dr. Slump-ey in the show.

[Ki Breaker]

If toriyama is indeed sick, I hope it's not bad, I would still want one thing for him to do regardless,
Many mangas I like remained incomplete and received a half assed ending from companies mainly because the mangaka, let's say, couldn't continue his work because of health issues..
Keeping this in mind toriyama should completely plan the ending of Dragonball from his vision and keep it stored away, for it to get completed in his way regardless if he is involved or not..

Dragon Ball will keep going regardless of whether Toriyama is involved or not... well, at least as far as I can reason. First off, let's not forget that Toriyama's actual Dragon Ball manga finished decades ago (or a few years ago, depending on whether or not you count Jaco), so we always have that core story that was completed. However, even if Toriyama were to quit (or, fate forbid, he dies), there's enough lore that's been set up just in recent years that writers could make new Toriyama-esque content for years. Granted, many would write such a product off as non-canon, and others wouldn't like it just because Toriyama's name isn't attached. However, that leads into my next point; the writers nowadays seem to get Toriyama nowadays in a way they never have before. Whether it be the anime writers or Toyotaro, they both do a fine job of mixing Toriyama's immature humor with the tone of the narrative. Sometimes to the detriment of certain viewers, since Goku often comes off very Dr. Slump-ey in the show.

My main point is, every series writer has a perfect ending in mind, when toriyama decided to get involved in legit continuation of Dragonball, he could be having a different ending in mind now..

The only thing I am saying is, have him get his dream ending of the series he got involved with so much, not that Dragonball couldn't continue after that without him, but his version of the ending Should be a thing, even if others pick up after that

[sintzu]

My main point is, every series writer has a perfect ending in mind, when toriyama decided to get involved in legit continuation of Dragonball, he could be having a different ending in mind now.

He might or he's writing like he did before where he doesn't plan much ahead and just focuses on the arc he's writing at the time.

[emperior]

If toriyama is indeed sick, I hope it's not bad, I would still want one thing for him to do regardless,
Many mangas I like remained incomplete and received a half assed ending from companies mainly because the mangaka, let's say, couldn't continue his work because of health issues..
Keeping this in mind toriyama should completely plan the ending of Dragonball from his vision and keep it stored away, for it to get completed in his way regardless if he is involved or not..

Toriyama's dream ending is the end of his manga, chapter 519

Unless this has changed, which doesn't really seem to be the case right now

[dbs fanboy]

Maybe this could help