"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[Dbzfan94]

I think people are so used to Super!Goku in the sub being a brainless moron who doesnt care about anything, that any indictation of him wanting to help and protect his family in the dub makes them triggered.

[KentalSSJ6]

Has Future Trunk's voice actor improved in Xenoverse 2? I remember people saying his voice sounded pretty bad in the previous game.

I hope his performance isn't too bad once they get to the Goku Black arc.

Trust me, Eric Vale is a completely capable voice actor. Watch the latest One Piece releases if you need proof.

Nobody is doubting him as a actor in general. I too know hes had plenty of great roles but his Trunks is really not that good. Especially in the 2 Xenoverse games. He got more and more raspy like Sabats old Vegeta and Piccolo and it just doesnt sound good, at least to me.

[Dbzfan94]

Nobody is doubting him as a actor in general. I too know hes had plenty of great roles but his Trunks is really not that good. Especially in the 2 Xenoverse games. He got more and more raspy like Sabats old Vegeta and Piccolo and it just doesnt sound good, at least to me.

I liked his voice from Z dub better even though the acting is much better in Kai

[Theophrastus]

You guys do know that Super on Toonami only has the 1st 27 episodes only. Once that's done, there's probably gonna be a break or some time before Toonami gets the Universe 6 Tournament & the Future Trunks / Zamasu arc.

Why do you thin that? It wasn't the case for Kai, and we know we didn't have that beforehand. There's literally no reason they should have to wait. Also, this is the first time I'm hearing about them supposedly only having the first 2 arcs, and I'm skeptical. Although I didn't like the dub anyway, so no skin off my back.

Funimation, for whatever reason, said this in the initial Toonami announcement on their blog:

http://www.funimation.com/blog/2016/12/ ... 30-p-m-et/

LOS ANGELES, CA – December 6, 2016. Dragon Ball fans everywhere just received the biggest gift of the holiday season. Toei Animation Inc., Funimation© Entertainment and Adult Swim are pleased to announce their partnership to bring “Dragon Ball Super” to TV audiences starting next January. “Dragon Ball Super” is the first new storyline in more than 18 years from original creator Akira Toriyama and the Dragon Ball franchise, which was first introduced to the U.S. more than 20 years ago. Adult Swim will begin airing the U.S. English dub of “Dragon Ball Super” Season 1 during the Toonami block starting on January 7, 2017 at 8 p.m. and 11:30 p.m. ET. Season 1, which totals 26 episodes, encompasses the Battle of Gods and Resurrection ‘F’ story arcs. New episodes of “Dragon Ball Super” will air each Saturday.

Apparently similar announcements were made in other countries about the first 26 episodes, and they're just continuing on to episode 27+ without missing a beat, but "officially" Toonami has 26 episodes.

[Scsigs]

I dread this dub! Schemells's Goku is all wrong and Sabat's Vegeta and Piccolo are just terrible!

There being no dub so far, has resulted in a lot of people watching the original Japanese version and that's the way things are meant to be watched, in my opinion. In their original language and form.

I just love the arrogance in this post.

(Just an off-hand comment, don't take it more seriously than that. It just seems that this person hates the fact that the dub's being made to me. Maybe I'm reading too far into it, but whatever.)

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I dread this dub! Schemells's Goku is all wrong and Sabat's Vegeta and Piccolo are just terrible!

There being no dub so far, has resulted in a lot of people watching the original Japanese version and that's the way things are meant to be watched, in my opinion. In their original language and form.

I just love the arrogance in this post.

There's no arrogance in it, you just disagree. If anything, you're the arrogant one for not even bothering to refute anything he said.

[Scsigs]

I dread this dub! Schemells's Goku is all wrong and Sabat's Vegeta and Piccolo are just terrible!

There being no dub so far, has resulted in a lot of people watching the original Japanese version and that's the way things are meant to be watched, in my opinion. In their original language and form.

I just love the arrogance in this post.

There's no arrogance in it, you just disagree. If anything, you're the arrogant one for not even bothering to refute anything he said.

Other people already did & I refuted a similar post on the Kai Final Chapters forum, so to do so here & now would be moot. You actually agree with this dickhead?
Oh, & there IS a certain degree of arrogance, as this person is putting this as matter-of-factly as possible, like dubs have no right to exist & shouldn't be made. What an arrogant & stupid statement, I say.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

You actually agree with this dickhead?

Not particularly, as if it matters.

Oh, & there IS a certain degree of arrogance, as this person is putting this as matter-of-factly as possible, like dubs have no right to exist & shouldn't be made. What an arrogant & stupid statement, I say.

No one was saying that at all, though. That was just your hyper-defensive projection. When someone says "x is bad", it doesn't mean, "X is so awful and everyone who watches X without throwing up! I'M SO OBJECTIVE PANTS!!!". What that actually means is "I don't like X". This is common sense stuff, par for the course in the English language, and you're intentionally interpreting it hyper-literally so you can have an excuse to take issue with something.

[Scsigs]

You actually agree with this dickhead?

Not particularly, as if it matters.

Oh, & there IS a certain degree of arrogance, as this person is putting this as matter-of-factly as possible, like dubs have no right to exist & shouldn't be made. What an arrogant & stupid statement, I say.

No one was saying that at all, though. That was just your hyper-defensive projection. When someone says "x is bad", it doesn't mean, "X is so awful and everyone who watches X without throwing up! I'M SO OBJECTIVE PANTS!!!". What that actually means is "I don't like X". This is common sense stuff, par for the course in the English language, and you're intentionally interpreting it hyper-literally so you can have an excuse to take issue with something.

Let me just break that guy's statements down so you can understand this with me for a sec here. Just so you know though, go back to page 14, or 15, where ever it was & you'll see people reacting the exact same way I am.

"I dread this dub! [Schemmel]'s Goku is all wrong and Sabat's Vegeta and Piccolo are just terrible!"

This person already has a slight against the dub because of some of the voices, which means he's a part of the fanbase that'll never be happy with the English dub. Why is he here in the first place is my question.

"There being no dub so far has resulted in a lot of people watching the original Japanese version and that's the way things are meant to be watched, in my opinion. In their original language and form."

Glad this person said "in my opinion," so there's slightly less arrogance than I initially thought, but it's still there. You can like the sub all you want, but if someone prefers to watch something dubbed, you can't take that away from them. I'd never take watching the original Z dub away from anyone who grew up with it, but I prefer the marvelous Kai dub & I wouldn't want that to be taken away from either me, or anyone else.

This person isn't exactly saying they don't want the dub to come forth, but this person IS hinting that they consider it unnecessary & a waste of time for everyone despite dubs actually helping a piece of media rather than hurting it, especially when the original language track is available subtitled for those who want to watch it. That's where I'm sensing the arrogance of this entire thing. The headspace a person would be in to think everyone would be fine with the sub, or that dubs don't have the right to exist is just asinine.

My whole thing is really why is this person in a forum about a dub, when they hate dubs, & go out of their way to shit on it. That's also why I hate the original post.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Literally nothing you just said holds up to my previous rebuttal, so read that again, I guess.

[precita]

Jesus, what is the point of arguing over the dub? If you don't want to watch it then don't, what is the big deal?

[Scsigs]

Jesus, what is the point of arguing over the dub? If you don't want to watch it then don't, what is the big deal?

That is, literally, what I'm saying.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Jesus, what is the point of arguing over the dub? If you don't want to watch it then don't, what is the big deal?

That is, literally, what I'm saying.

That's actually not what you're saying. You're actually going out of your way to start trouble by trying (and failing, I might add) to discredit negative opinions of the dub by calling them arrogant. I'm perfectly content if anyone likes the dub, that's not even in contention. What's happening here is you starting trouble by overreacting to your paranoid, projection-driven caricature of a harmless opinion.

[Bansho64]

That is, literally, what I'm saying.

It didn't sound at all like that. It's like you were searching for a reason just to get on that guy. Then you used flawed logic as a reason to berate the guy and throw personal insults at him.

You could've so easily just pointed out that you disagree with the guy and you like dubs and explain why you think they have worth. None of the insults were needed and your rant was looking far too into what was originally a harmless comment.

[Scsigs]

Jesus, what is the point of arguing over the dub? If you don't want to watch it then don't, what is the big deal?

That is, literally, what I'm saying.

That's actually not what you're saying. You're actually going out of your way to start trouble by trying (and failing, I might add) to discredit negative opinions of the dub by calling them arrogant. I'm perfectly content if anyone likes the dub, that's not even in contention. What's happening here is you starting trouble by overreacting to your paranoid, projection-driven caricature of a harmless opinion.

All I did was say "I just love the arrogance of this post." It was a quick 2 second thing. I never wanted to start anything, I was just making an observation. I don't care if you agree, or not. If arrogance wasn't the right word, fine. I was just making note of something. Can we please just put this to bed already?
I never wanted to start anything, it was just an off-handed remark, so don't get triggered.
That last bit of that sentence was a joke, by the way.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

All I did was say "I just love the arrogance of this post." It was a quick 2 second thing. I never wanted to start anything, I was just making an observation. I don't care if you agree, or not. If arrogance wasn't the right word, fine. I was just making note of something. Can we please just put this to bed already?
I never wanted to start anything, it was just an off-handed remark, so don't get triggered.

I will remain triggered until I get a concession!

Actually, I don't care, otherwise you would have gotten a thorough essay from me. I just think you're disingenuous and it kind of disgusts me, but so be it, we can rest. I also don't care how short the comment was, the intent was obvious whether you own up to it or not.

[Scsigs]

i'm sorry that i'm asking for a reply again but will canada get the english dub somehow too? i wanna support the dub

You guys could always get the American home releases from Amazon, or eBay, when it comes out if it's not directly released in Canada.

[jjgp1112]

Goku saying he wants to keep his friends and family safe is such an innocuous statement that people actually getting critical of it, as if him having even a shred of altruism or expressing a desire to protect his loved ones is Clark Kent levels of superheroism, is comically absurd and overreactionary to me.

[Scsigs]

All I did was say "I just love the arrogance of this post." It was a quick 2 second thing. I never wanted to start anything, I was just making an observation. I don't care if you agree, or not. If arrogance wasn't the right word, fine. I was just making note of something. Can we please just put this to bed already?
I never wanted to start anything, it was just an off-handed remark, so don't get triggered.

I will remain triggered until I get a concession!

Actually, I don't care, otherwise you would have gotten a thorough essay from me. I just think you're disingenuous and it kind of disgusts me, but so be it, we can rest. I also don't care how short the comment was, the intent was obvious whether you own up to it or not.

I put a disclaimer on the post, so take that how you will. I just don't want this being an endless thing. I thought one thing, you thought another. Whatever. I just don't wanna accidentally say something to trigger the admins & maybe get banned. Made that mistake on herotaku & I'd rather not here as well.

[Scsigs]

Goku saying he wants to keep his friends and family safe is such an innocuous statement that people actually getting critical of it, as if him having even a shred of altruism or expressing a desire to protect his loved ones is Clark Kent levels of superheroism, is comically absurd and overreactionary to me.

Pretty sure people are getting triggered by it because we FINALLY have consistently quality translation of the Japanese language represented in Dragon Ball since Kai & if it's not 100% the same, they automatically cry foul. Then there's the fans that cry foul over Goku apparently being more selfish in Super because he enjoys fighting more than most other things...even though he's ALWAYS been like that, just a bit more toned down. You can't win with this fandom, unfortunately.
However, the heroism is most likely something Schemmel's influencing, since he likes to make those "corrections" when recording for Goku. It might make an overall better product, if you think about it. Goku having dialogue like that would make his personality more stable to watchers, since it seems to balance the love of fighting a bit. People were even complaining that he doesn't love his family, that's how bad it got for some people. Saying he wants to train to protect his family, I'd say, puts stuff into perspective a bit. He'll still kind of look a bit selfish since the animation won't change the fact that he still loves training all the time, but giving him that reasoning lessens its impact a bit, at least I think so. Gotta find the good in the bad, unfortunately. I may be stretching a bit, but that's how I'm looking at it.