"Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread

[TheQuazz]

I came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kvBSLTcSXg

The colors aren't perfect, but neither is Kai and it's far better than anything you'll see in The Final Chapters.

Well, somehow he was able to get hold of either really good masters, or the animation cells & has been doing his own remaster. He's apparently going to have subbed downloads of the episodes available at some point, since another person has broadcast audio masters that he's been using in his clips. Maybe we can launch a fan project to edit scenes together with the Kai dub audio after the home releases come out & he releases his remaster. Just food for thought.

Enigmo doesn't have anything that isn't commercially available. He's just really good at making it look like he does.

[Scsigs]

I came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kvBSLTcSXg

The colors aren't perfect, but neither is Kai and it's far better than anything you'll see in The Final Chapters.

Well, somehow he was able to get hold of either really good masters, or the animation cells & has been doing his own remaster. He's apparently going to have subbed downloads of the episodes available at some point, since another person has broadcast audio masters that he's been using in his clips. Maybe we can launch a fan project to edit scenes together with the Kai dub audio after the home releases come out & he releases his remaster. Just food for thought.

Enigmo doesn't have anything that isn't commercially available. He's just really good at making it look like he does.

Really? Huh.

[Footlong Shoe]

Enigmo doesn't have anything that isn't commercially available. He's just really good at making it look like he does.

After seeing his numerous posts on this forum a few months ago, I'd beg to differ. This certainly looks much better, though. I was shocked to find out it was him.

So, back to the topic of Kai, does anyone have a guess for when they'll announce a Blu-ray release?

[Scsigs]

Enigmo doesn't have anything that isn't commercially available. He's just really good at making it look like he does.

After seeing his numerous posts on this forum a few months ago, I'd beg to differ. This certainly looks much better, though. I was shocked to find out it was him.

So, back to the topic of Kai, does anyone have a guess for when they'll announce a Blu-ray release?

How long did it take them to announce the first set after it started airing on Nicktoons?

[ohaimynameiserik]

Enigmo doesn't have anything that isn't commercially available. He's just really good at making it look like he does.

After seeing his numerous posts on this forum a few months ago, I'd beg to differ. This certainly looks much better, though. I was shocked to find out it was him.

So, back to the topic of Kai, does anyone have a guess for when they'll announce a Blu-ray release?

How long did it take them to announce the first set after it started airing on Nicktoons?

Volume 1 actually released a couple weeks before the first episode aired.

[Scsigs]

After seeing his numerous posts on this forum a few months ago, I'd beg to differ. This certainly looks much better, though. I was shocked to find out it was him.

So, back to the topic of Kai, does anyone have a guess for when they'll announce a Blu-ray release?

How long did it take them to announce the first set after it started airing on Nicktoons?

Volume 1 actually released a couple weeks before the first episode aired.

How long was it after the initial announcement?

[DBZ_Lee]

How long did it take them to announce the first set after it started airing on Nicktoons?

Volume 1 actually released a couple weeks before the first episode aired.

How long was it after the initial announcement?

The casting and 1st part set was announced on the 14th of February 2010, 12 days after Navarre announced the license.
The 1st part ep 1-13 released 18th May 2010 a week before the show started on Nicktoons.

[Scsigs]

Volume 1 actually released a couple weeks before the first episode aired.

How long was it after the initial announcement?

The casting and 1st part set was announced on the 14th of February 2010, 12 days after Navarre announced the license.
The 1st part ep 1-13 released 18th May 2010 a week before the show started on Nicktoons.

So, depending on if the fact that it's on basic cable is a factor, we could see the first part announced in several weeks. Same with Kai: The Final Chapters.

[SaiyanGod117]

I can't wait to see the epic battles and scenes like Goku vs Majin Vegeta, Vegeta's Final Atonement, and Gohan vs Super Buu on TV again. I hope the music doesn't ruin my experience though, heard a few tracks and I'm not impressed.

[mecha3000]

I can't wait to see the epic battles and scenes like Goku vs Majin Vegeta, Vegeta's Final Atonement, and Gohan vs Super Buu on TV again. I hope the music doesn't ruin my experience though, heard a few tracks and I'm not impressed.

Three moments I'm particularly looking forward to are:

1. Goku's Farewell to Ultimate Gohan: This scene has been the most discussed and anticipated dub scene for many fans ever since Sean Schemmel discussed it on a podcast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icTqUqhHKQY) and panel (https://youtu.be/X58PrXM82Bs?t=738). Schemmel clearly stated that he portrayed the scene differently than in Z because he now understands the context of the scene better. He described it as: Goku saying sorry to Gohan for not being there for him during his life. He also appreciated Goku having a more character moment scene and he also said he portrayed Goku as sounding choked up saying goodbye to his son with the intention of showing that Goku "gives a shit" about Gohan. Unlike most fans, I welcome this change - But then again, I'm intrigued by the dub changes anyway because these days - It's usually more subtle creative changes rather than MONDO COOL.

2. Vegeta's Respect for Goku: I watched this moment online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBuRlN17UyU) and I really love the Sumitomo soundtrack that's used in this scene. It's the perfect score to play as we see the entire Z (or in this case, Kai) series be summed up through Vegeta's eyes. Also, I just feel like a redub of this scene will be nice with the current in-his-prime Chris Sabat and a more accurate script (although from what I remember, the original scene didn't deviate TOO MUCH)

3. Goku vs. Uub/Farewell to Friends and Family/Leaving with Uub: Basically, the series finale. I'm actually anticipating Uub to get a voice recast to sound more like Colleen Clinkenbeard versus who they originally got to voice him, who made a ten year-old sound like a teenager (same as Nadolny's Gohan versus Clinkenbeard's Gohan). Also, the entire farewell scene to Goku leaving with Uub feels incredibly whimsical with the Sumitomo score (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuV0Ej5_S1c) versus the old Funimation bittersweet score. The score I linked has actually been used frequently in Super lately.

[Scsigs]

I can't wait to see the epic battles and scenes like Goku vs Majin Vegeta, Vegeta's Final Atonement, and Gohan vs Super Buu on TV again. I hope the music doesn't ruin my experience though, heard a few tracks and I'm not impressed.

Three moments I'm particularly looking forward to are:

1. Goku's Farewell to Ultimate Gohan: This scene has been the most discussed and anticipated dub scene for many fans ever since Sean Schemmel discussed it on a podcast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icTqUqhHKQY) and panel (https://youtu.be/X58PrXM82Bs?t=738). Schemmel clearly stated that he portrayed the scene differently than in Z because he now understands the context of the scene better. He described it as: Goku saying sorry to Gohan for not being there for him during his life. He also appreciated Goku having a more character moment scene and he also said he portrayed Goku as sounding choked up saying goodbye to his son with the intention of showing that Goku "gives a shit" about Gohan. Unlike most fans, I welcome this change - But then again, I'm intrigued by the dub changes anyway because these days - It's usually more subtle creative changes rather than MONDO COOL.

2. Vegeta's Respect for Goku: I watched this moment online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBuRlN17UyU) and I really love the Sumitomo soundtrack that's used in this scene. It's the perfect score to play as we see the entire Z (or in this case, Kai) series be summed up through Vegeta's eyes. Also, I just feel like a redub of this scene will be nice with the current in-his-prime Chris Sabat and a more accurate script (although from what I remember, the original scene didn't deviate TOO MUCH)

3. Goku vs. Uub/Farewell to Friends and Family/Leaving with Uub: Basically, the series finale. I'm actually anticipating Uub to get a voice recast to sound more like Colleen Clinkenbeard versus who they originally got to voice him, who made a ten year-old sound like a teenager (same as Nadolny's Gohan versus Clinkenbeard's Gohan). Also, the entire farewell scene to Goku leaving with Uub feels incredibly whimsical with the Sumitomo score (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuV0Ej5_S1c) versus the old Funimation bittersweet score. The score I linked has actually been used frequently in Super lately.

I don't think that Uub's voice actor will be replaced. Also, Colleen voicing young Gohan is still something, I'm sure, most of us are still on the fence with. Personally, I'm now fine with her voicing him young, but when he gets older, switch over to Nadolny, then Hebert, but that's just me.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

How long was it after the initial announcement?

The casting and 1st part set was announced on the 14th of February 2010, 12 days after Navarre announced the license.
The 1st part ep 1-13 released 18th May 2010 a week before the show started on Nicktoons.

So, depending on if the fact that it's on basic cable is a factor, we could see the first part announced in several weeks. Same with Kai: The Final Chapters.

Unfortunately we won't. FUNimation before their solicitations go up, on their browse catalogue page under the products tab a few weeks before they usually have a pages up for new series that will be solicited for example a page Gangsta is up however if you click on it it's blank.

But like the movies they weren't part of solicitations FUNi just announced them randomly so the same could happen here I suppose.

[NintendoBlaze53]

I can't wait to see the epic battles and scenes like Goku vs Majin Vegeta, Vegeta's Final Atonement, and Gohan vs Super Buu on TV again. I hope the music doesn't ruin my experience though, heard a few tracks and I'm not impressed.

Three moments I'm particularly looking forward to are:

1. Goku's Farewell to Ultimate Gohan: This scene has been the most discussed and anticipated dub scene for many fans ever since Sean Schemmel discussed it on a podcast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icTqUqhHKQY) and panel (https://youtu.be/X58PrXM82Bs?t=738). Schemmel clearly stated that he portrayed the scene differently than in Z because he now understands the context of the scene better. He described it as: Goku saying sorry to Gohan for not being there for him during his life. He also appreciated Goku having a more character moment scene and he also said he portrayed Goku as sounding choked up saying goodbye to his son with the intention of showing that Goku "gives a shit" about Gohan. Unlike most fans, I welcome this change - But then again, I'm intrigued by the dub changes anyway because these days - It's usually more subtle creative changes rather than MONDO COOL.

2. Vegeta's Respect for Goku: I watched this moment online (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBuRlN17UyU) and I really love the Sumitomo soundtrack that's used in this scene. It's the perfect score to play as we see the entire Z (or in this case, Kai) series be summed up through Vegeta's eyes. Also, I just feel like a redub of this scene will be nice with the current in-his-prime Chris Sabat and a more accurate script (although from what I remember, the original scene didn't deviate TOO MUCH)

3. Goku vs. Uub/Farewell to Friends and Family/Leaving with Uub: Basically, the series finale. I'm actually anticipating Uub to get a voice recast to sound more like Colleen Clinkenbeard versus who they originally got to voice him, who made a ten year-old sound like a teenager (same as Nadolny's Gohan versus Clinkenbeard's Gohan). Also, the entire farewell scene to Goku leaving with Uub feels incredibly whimsical with the Sumitomo score (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuV0Ej5_S1c) versus the old Funimation bittersweet score. The score I linked has actually been used frequently in Super lately.

I don't think that Uub's voice actor will be replaced. Also, Colleen voicing young Gohan is still something, I'm sure, most of us are still on the fence with. Personally, I'm now fine with her voicing him young, but when he gets older, switch over to Nadolny, then Hebert, but that's just me.

Cell Games Gohan is 10 though. Why would his voice be any different? Goku had the same voice from 12 to 15.

[Scsigs]

I don't think that Uub's voice actor will be replaced. Also, Colleen voicing young Gohan is still something, I'm sure, most of us are still on the fence with. Personally, I'm now fine with her voicing him young, but when he gets older, switch over to Nadolny, then Hebert, but that's just me.

Cell Games Gohan is 10 though. Why would his voice be any different? Goku had the same voice from 12 to 15.

You're not seeing it. When you get to your preteen years, that's when body changes start to happen. not as many as even later, but some. It would signify his getting older & changing. That's at least what I'm thinking, but that's just me.

[TheBlackPaladin]

I don't think that Uub's voice actor will be replaced. Also, Colleen voicing young Gohan is still something, I'm sure, most of us are still on the fence with. Personally, I'm now fine with her voicing him young, but when he gets older, switch over to Nadolny, then Hebert, but that's just me.

Cell Games Gohan is 10 though. Why would his voice be any different? Goku had the same voice from 12 to 15.

You're not seeing it. When you get to your preteen years, that's when body changes start to happen. not as many as even later, but some. It would signify his getting older & changing. That's at least what I'm thinking, but that's just me.

And this is where we come to the "'Do They Follow What Toei Did With The Original Japanese Version?' VS 'Do They Cast Based On How People At That Age Usually Sound'" Debate. Both sides have valid points, and this is usually the debate that comes up with regard to whether or not it was a good idea creatively to keep Masako Nozawa as the voice of adult Goku.

[WittyUsername]

Not that I want to get deeply into another VA debate, but I wouldn't have minded keeping Nadolny as Kid Goku, while keeping Clinkenbeard as Kid Gohan.

Gohan and Goku as adults have different voices in the Funimation dub anyway, so I'd argue that it would've probably made more sense for them to have different voices as kids as well.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Colleen was way better as Gohan all the way through tbh. She was just way more expressive I could buy she was a kid throughout and she appropriately made him sound older. Now that is of course comparing the Nadolny of the the old dub had the she had the chance to redeem herself like the others then maybe she would have done just as well.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Well I think the age appropriate cast is important. I mean Funimation has never cast the voices for kids correctly. They either have boys sounding too feminine, too young or with Uub, sounding way too old. Uub and Pan should sound accurate to their ages based on the voice inflections themselves not just the pitch of their voices. Its why I don't like Colleen's Gohan. I don't believe the myth that boys just sound like high-pitched women before puberty. Boys still have their undertones and girls do change their voices as well when they age.
Ocean Uub: https://youtu.be/MdCe4djjmVg?t=12s
Ocean Pan's Voice: https://youtu.be/MdCe4djjmVg?t=1m23s

[Bansho64]

I mean Funimation has never cast the voices for kids correctly.

Are we talking specifically Dragon Ball or just for everything? I disagree either way, but I thought they did their best casting for a kid when they casted Aaron Dismuke as Alphonse Elric in FMA 2003. From what I know of, that was one of the few times where they got an actual little kid to play a main role. Here's a sample of what it sounds like. It's the guy in the armor. Eventually, puberty came and he has to grow up, but he was able to do a whole series and the Movie that came with it.

To bring it back the DB, wouldn't it have been cool if Aaron had done stuff in Dragon Ball back when he was younger?

Also, that "myth" really isn't a myth at all. There are millions of boys who sound like high pitched young women. It's just the way a lot of them sound before puberty. I myself did and got a little teasing because of it. It's definitely not a myth. That's like saying that it's a "myth" that some women sound like young men.

[IAmTheMilkMan]

Well I think the age appropriate cast is important. I mean Funimation has never cast the voices for kids correctly. They either have boys sounding too feminine, too young or with Uub, sounding way too old. Uub and Pan should sound accurate to their ages based on the voice inflections themselves not just the pitch of their voices. Its why I don't like Colleen's Gohan. I don't believe the myth that boys just sound like high-pitched women before puberty. Boys still have their undertones and girls do change their voices as well when they age.

Here is a video of an actual 10-year-old boy talking: https://youtu.be/tKyi6kS6AJ0?t=12s
If anything, Colleen's take by the time the Cell games roll around is even deeper than that, and that's when Gohan is roughly 9 or 10 years old, so I really don't understand where the criticism is coming from. Colleen's take isn't any higher-pitched than the voice actresses that came before Nadolny, so I have to believe that people are just way too attached to Nadolny and their own nostalgia to want to hear anything different.