The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:46 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
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Polyphase Avatron wrote:What if someone hired Hit to kill Zeno? Knowing who he was, would he even try? Or just refuse?

And if he would try, how would he go about it?
Hit would fucking flat out refuse because he values his life. Even if he agreed to it, I'm sure that Omni King would do some hax bullshit and no sell his Time-Skip ability.
What if the one who hired him was Daishinkan?
Omni-King would erase him for pulling a stupid stunt like that and Whis or Vados would get a promotion.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Doctor. » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:49 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: Hit would fucking flat out refuse because he values his life. Even if he agreed to it, I'm sure that Omni King would do some hax bullshit and no sell his Time-Skip ability.
What if the one who hired him was Daishinkan?
Omni-King would erase him for pulling a stupid stunt like that and Whis or Vados would get a promotion.
I wouldn't be surprised if they end up revealing that the Grand Priest is the strongest being and his connection to the Omni-king is similar to Whis and Beerus.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by kinisking » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:24 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:
What if the one who hired him was Daishinkan?
Omni-King would erase him for pulling a stupid stunt like that and Whis or Vados would get a promotion.
I wouldn't be surprised if they end up revealing that the Grand Priest is the strongest being and his connection to the Omni-king is similar to Whis and Beerus.
Didn't they say he's in the top 5 strongest? That would be strange wording if he was the strongest.

What if Freeza during ROF listened to Goku's advice and left the planet? Would he come back for revenge a third time? Would he become reformed?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Doctor. » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:31 pm

kinisking wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: Omni-King would erase him for pulling a stupid stunt like that and Whis or Vados would get a promotion.
I wouldn't be surprised if they end up revealing that the Grand Priest is the strongest being and his connection to the Omni-king is similar to Whis and Beerus.
Didn't they say he's in the top 5 strongest? That would be strange wording if he was the strongest.

What if Freeza during ROF listened to Goku's advice and left the planet? Would he come back for revenge a third time? Would he become reformed?
The manga said he was the strongest in the whole world, so I assume it's just Toei being Toei as usual.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by kinisking » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:51 pm

Doctor. wrote:
kinisking wrote:
Doctor. wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if they end up revealing that the Grand Priest is the strongest being and his connection to the Omni-king is similar to Whis and Beerus.
Didn't they say he's in the top 5 strongest? That would be strange wording if he was the strongest.

What if Freeza during ROF listened to Goku's advice and left the planet? Would he come back for revenge a third time? Would he become reformed?
The manga said he was the strongest in the whole world, so I assume it's just Toei being Toei as usual.
Really, I tend to skim the parts that I know are similar to the anime. Hm, I find it hard to be stronger than a being that can wipe out every universe without any effort but this is dragonball after all. You might be onto something.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Nejishiki » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:28 am

kinisking wrote:Really, I tend to skim the parts that I know are similar to the anime. Hm, I find it hard to be stronger than a being that can wipe out every universe without any effort but this is dragonball after all. You might be onto something.
Specifically, Whis claims, "So far as I know". While the obvious idea is to portray Grand Priest as the best in the manga continuity (why else would an author write that dialogue?), there's still just enough wiggle room in that statement to allow for a twist or two, I think. As events currently stand, we should take this at face value though.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Merged Zamasu » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:20 pm

What if Jaco had not realized Frost was cheating? Would Frost have won the tournament for Universe 6? Keep in mind Frost had already defeated both Goku and Piccolo, using that poison of his. Only Vegeta was left. And Monaka, but Monaka is a bug.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by The_Destroyer » Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:49 pm

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miguelnuva1 wrote:I got three

1. What if Vegeta dies in the cell fanes and is aloud to keep his body and stay with Goku till the buu arc?

2. What if Goten has a twin sister thats a littlw atrobger than Trunks and Goku reveals a three way fusion, does the new Gotenks handle Buu without the rosat?

3. If Goku had another kid around Pan and Bra's age with a tail and he goes through Gt trainning with Goku does he change any events and does he reach ssj4?
1. Vegeta would probably never fall under Babidi's control. Dabra and Babidi would be defeated before Buu can be awaken. Beerus shows up and finds out that Goku is dead. Goten and Trunks would probably not know fusion and would probably lose to Aka. Seeing that Aka is not a major threat, Gohan may end up defeating him and Tarble would be upset that his brother is dead. Beerus awakes up and dreams about the Super Saiyan God. Beerus finds Goku on King Kai's planet and Goku would lose. Beerus would visit Earth and probably won't destroy it unless something pisses him off. Freeza gets wish back to life and finds out that Goku & Vegeta are dead. He still probably invades the Earth and probably won't train since Goku and Vegeta are dead. Since Buu was never defeated, so that would be another reason for Freeza not to train.

Gohan would probably defeat Freeza and the Universe 6 Tournament would never happen. With Goku dead, Zamasu would probably never have any reason to go after Goku and hate mortals. So everyone lives a happy life after ROF.

2. I think Gotenks would be a bit stronger, but not enough to win.

3. I think they would probably defeat Bebi faster. I don't think much else would change.

Some ideas.

1. What if Botamo, Cabba and Magetta went to Trunks timeline with Goku, Vegeta and Trunks to fight Black and Zamasu?

2. What if Trunks was Yamucha's son. How would Toriyama write the story? (I know realistic speaking, Trunks would die early on. I would imagine Toriyama would find away for Trunks to be strong enough to defeat Freeza).
1. Cabba and Maggeta would be stomped. Cabba would provide support during the Trunks-Vegeta galick gun, making it the Father-Son-Student galick gun. Botamo's invinciblity would be used to protect the civilians from Zamasu's attacks.

2. Bulma turns Trunks into a cybrog, essentially making it a fight fire with fire type situation.

Merged Zamasu wrote:What if Jaco had not realized Frost was cheating? Would Frost have won the tournament for Universe 6? Keep in mind Frost had already defeated both Goku and Piccolo, using that poison of his. Only Vegeta was left. And Monaka, but Monaka is a bug.
Frost wins. Vegeta beats him up badly but he still gets affected by the poison. Earth goes to universe 6.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:21 am

What if Goku asked Cell out for help to find Broly during the 10-day wait for the Cell Games?

What if Cell asked Gohan for forgiveness?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:47 pm

floofychan333 wrote:What if Super replaced GT but SSJ4 was still canon?
Then the last transformation in the series would would SUper Saiyan 4 God. With the red ki. That would actually look badass.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Noah » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:19 am

What if Goku actually made in time arriving in the battlefield in the Saiyan arc?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:27 am

Noah wrote:What if Goku actually made in time arriving in the battlefield in the Saiyan arc?
Unless Piccolo dies during the big gang up against Vegeta, they wouldn't travel to Namek. Vegeta is eventually killed on Namek if Goku decides to spare him as are the Namekians, Freeza never gets his wish for immortality and then everyone dies against the Androids. If Gohan survives into adulthood he might time travel into the past to save another timeline and to get more powerful to save his own.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by SuperKirillin » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:48 am

Lord Beerus wrote:Whis or Vados would get a promotion.
Yeah of course one of them is the best attendant after Daishinkan.

Also they are currently assigned to work for Champa and Beerus. So they might get a promotion only if those Hakaishins seize to exist

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Gog » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:28 am

I'm curious on what would have happened if the whole ginyu forced survived, what would have happened if they made it to earth?

Would they become good, would they die?

Who knows

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:37 am

Doctor. wrote:What if Goku asked Cell out for help to find Broly during the 10-day wait for the Cell Games?

What if Cell asked Gohan for forgiveness?
Cell would likely brush him off.

SSJ2 Gohan would thrash him regardless, MSSJ Gohan may be convinced.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Nejishiki » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:06 am

SuperKirillin wrote:Also they are currently assigned to work for Champa and Beerus. So they might get a promotion only if those Hakaishins seize to exist
Well, if Beerus & Champa cease to exist, Whis & Vados are "shut down" until a new Hakaishin is promoted for them. The rules aren't exactly outlined. I do think it's interesting to consider whether or not Angels are able to rise through the ranks or if certain members live to serve Hakaishin exclusively. I look forward to their backstories!

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Rumanid » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:04 pm

So more of a theoretical, but what if Future Trunks had an android upgrade? For purposes of a story, let's say he gets seriously, even mortally injured due to the androids, and Bulma is forced to work with designs for 17/18?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Almighty Majin » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:53 pm

What if after achieving his perfect form, Cell got bored and decided he wasn't going to destroy the Earth and instead just wanted to train with Goku and Vegeta or something of that sort?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Super Neko Majin » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:51 pm

Rumanid wrote:So more of a theoretical, but what if Future Trunks had an android upgrade? For purposes of a story, let's say he gets seriously, even mortally injured due to the androids, and Bulma is forced to work with designs for 17/18?
This could be really interesting, since we never saw anyone with ki become an Android. My guess is that his Super Saiyan form would only boost his natural ki, not his mechanical parts. I think Future 17/18 are weaker than the present ones due to age, though, not any actual change in the designs, so Trunks would kill them. That leaves the question of whether he'd go back in time or not. If he still did, the Android Saga wouldn't change much because 16 would probably be too strong for him, so they'd still have to go in the ROSAT anyway. If he didn't, he might not be able to kill Cell, and he'd probably die against Dabura unless he got upgraded.
Almighty Majin wrote:What if after achieving his perfect form, Cell got bored and decided he wasn't going to destroy the Earth and instead just wanted to train with Goku and Vegeta or something of that sort?
You ever read Honor Trip? Not sure there's a better "Cell turns good" story than that.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Almighty Majin » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:58 pm

Super Neko Majin wrote:
Almighty Majin wrote:What if after achieving his perfect form, Cell got bored and decided he wasn't going to destroy the Earth and instead just wanted to train with Goku and Vegeta or something of that sort?
You ever read Honor Trip? Not sure there's a better "Cell turns good" story than that.
I am aware of Honor Trip and it seems interesting, but the whole thing with Cell getting hit in the head and having a change of heart and then begging Gohan for forgiveness seemed really weird for me.I may go back to it sometime though.

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