Episode #0080 (03 June 2007)

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Post by imadude1134 » Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:51 pm

Great episode everyone... like always... Congrats on reaching the "Magical" 80!!! Your show is officially Senile!!! Haha... Anyways...

I have heard Zenkai used before, but only on forums (The Pojo.com one mainly) and I have always wondered where it came from or if it had any root in the show... But now I know, so I can laugh at all the "Know-It-All-Dubbies" that Mike likes to always make fun of.

I can't wait until next week to hear the "Manga-Review-Of-Awesomeness". It has been my only exposure to the Manga, and I love it. Almost makes me wanna go out and buy them (at least if I wasn't so broke)...

Keep up the good work!!

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Post by DaftBrian » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:20 am

Here is a character that I WANT TO SEE BADLY:

Dr.Wheelo.

He does a lot of moves. I've been a fan of that guy for a while.
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Post by Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:13 am

I added a bunch of new pictures of AF figures like SSJ3 Broly, and SSJ5 Gotenks.

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Post by aegoku » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:14 am

Congratulations on 80 episodes!

For what it's worth, I've never heard Zenkai outside of the song.

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Post by Brakus » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:15 am

This might have been answered to death, but...

I already know about the "story" about why Toriyama-san tacked on the Z at the end of the title when that anime started, but considering the discussion about the word ZENKAI, could it have been what the Z stood for in Dragonball Z? Or would it have made no sense at all?
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Post by The Tori-bot » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:49 pm

Nice episode. I don't think I've ever heard ZENKAI used in that way, but when you started talking about it to refer to the near-death Saiya-jin power-up, a twinge of familiarity struck me for some reason. :?

BTW, Julian, at some points you sound like Stephen Hawking's voice box, and near the end you sound exactly like Devil/Kazuya Mishima in his Tekken 4 end cutscene. :P

Use this for referance, they really do sound exactly alike. :lol:
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Post by Catterix2006 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:17 pm

Ooh! Ooh! I found someone on the internet who used the word Zenkai incorrectly and I told him off, I did.

Be proud of me! Your word is spreading through the work of us fans! heehee
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Post by ManOfHokuto » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:43 pm

Good for you :D

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:54 pm

Catterix2006 wrote:Ooh! Ooh! I found someone on the internet who used the word Zenkai incorrectly and I told him off, I did.

Be proud of me! Your word is spreading through the work of us fans! heehee
Well, don't just go and be a dick about it, and then say we sent you :P ... being helpful is nice, though!
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Post by Catterix2006 » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:10 am

lol! I wasn't a dick, I just questioned his use of the word. Then corrected him.

The guy/gal/thing said that they'd heard in the dub so they started using it. :S

I don't think he fully believed me anyway, he refused to accept it wasn't in the dub, so I just left it lol. It became almost a "You're wrong." "No, you're wrong." Match of wits....

Meh :D
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Post by Bardock the Mexican » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:02 am

Strangely enough it is an accurate use of the Japanese. The kanji used to mean recovery are zenkai suru and the proof is here:
The kanji for zenkai
Yeah, so that means that it even works in the song Zenkai Pawa. So it could mean a surprise recovery after a near death experience. The kanji used in the rebuttal are wrong.
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Post by caejones » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:31 pm

"Dragon Ball Zenkai!"
... Not bad. That should be a game title. In fact... *adds it to the list of possible titles for the never-to-be-finished-RPG-of-awesomeness*

Meh, the thing that confuses me about the zenkaisuru bit is... it's a -suru verb, but of the built-in variety... so can zenkai in the context of "recover completely" exist outside of verb form?
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Post by dragonpearls2 » Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:41 pm

I’ve just listened to this episode and I still like “Wow, I never thought about THAT before!”
I heard it on the song “Detekoi Tobikiri ZENKAI Pawâ!” or as I call it “The Gohan Song”.
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Post by Carrie » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:13 am

It seems like the word 'zenkai' has been floating around for so long I never really thought about it. I think the first place I saw it was in an old Pojo magazine, or perhaps one of those ever-present, soul-crushingly bad fanfictions.

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