Which form should Gohan use now?

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Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Kishido » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:56 pm

Ultimate or go the natural Super Saiyan and beyond forms?

I go with Super Saiyan. He should have lost the asspull of Ultimate after his lack of training

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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Grimlock » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:05 pm

The Super Saiyan forms should be all that Gohan ever had. And eventually he'll get his Super Saiyan Rage.

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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Kishido » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:14 pm

Grimlock wrote:The Super Saiyan forms should be all that Gohan ever had. And eventually he'll get his Super Saiyan Rage.
Yeah Ultimate shoud be gone... It was a free power up to make Gohan cool one last time in Z but in the long run brought a lot of problems and endless discussion... ever since GT

After all the lack of training he should have lost this free power up and go back the natural route to reach his "full" potential in forms of Super Saiyan or as you have said Super Saiyan Ikari... Ikari would fit him much much better than Future Trunks... And maybe we could get a damn explanation for it more than just rage.

BUT please no Ultimate Blue God Ikari or whatever form... Simply transformation already known or if not, something others as Goku can gain as well in the future... As Super Saiyan 2 in the past

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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Doctor. » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:16 pm

The ultimate form because it's unique and represents Gohan's hidden potential. Let's not ridicule Super Saiyan Blue any longer by giving it to fodder.

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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Kishido » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:19 pm

Doctor. wrote:The ultimate form because it's unique and represents Gohan's hidden potential. Let's not ridicule Super Saiyan Blue any longer by giving it to fodder.
Is it really unique.. Yeah he has a l of damn potential and doesn't need Super Saiyan to pull it out.

But is it unqiue... Has anyone like Goten or Trunks tried the ritual. Even if the dran out potential wouldn't be that much they for sure wouldn't need to go Super Saiyan as well.

Ultimate problems have begun with TOEI milking the franchise further... First with GT and making him simply Super Saiyan again and now in Super as well.

Why if he lost his hidden potential through training he should get this transformation again? Goku (in the anime) haven't for SSG as well but needed to train the natural way and gain SSB

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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Doctor. » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:25 pm

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Doctor. wrote:The ultimate form because it's unique and represents Gohan's hidden potential. Let's not ridicule Super Saiyan Blue any longer by giving it to fodder.
Is it really unique.. Yeah he has a l of damn potential and doesn't need Super Saiyan to pull it out.

But is it unqiue... Has anyone like Goten or Trunks tried the ritual. Even if the dran out potential wouldn't be that much they for sure wouldn't need to go Super Saiyan as well.

Ultimate problems have begun with TOEI milking the franchise further... First with GT and making him simply Super Saiyan again and now in Super as well.

Why if he lost his hidden potential through training he should get this transformation again? Goku (in the anime) haven't for SSG as well but needed to train the natural way and gain SSB
Because it's something he can call his own rather than just slapping golden or blue hair on him and making him a background decoration. He'll still be a background character, but at least this way he has something that is unique to him.

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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:28 pm

Just let his ultimate have ONE win, I ask no more..
For a form which represents all his hidden potential and is the best Powerup aside form god ki, it has a shameful track record..

I think they wouldn't give him his goku gi and make him look identical to his buu saga self if he wasn't ultimate
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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by kinisking » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:39 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:Just let his ultimate have ONE win, I ask no more..
For a form which represents all his hidden potential and is the best Powerup aside form god ki, it has a shameful track record..

I think they wouldn't give him his goku gi and make him look identical to his buu saga self if he wasn't ultimate
He won round one against Super boo if that counts.
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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:40 pm

kinisking wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Just let his ultimate have ONE win, I ask no more..
For a form which represents all his hidden potential and is the best Powerup aside form god ki, it has a shameful track record..

I think they wouldn't give him his goku gi and make him look identical to his buu saga self if he wasn't ultimate
He won round one against Super boo if that counts.
That was a satisfying win, but the way buu tricked him kinda ruins it a little..
I honestly want him to have a proper win this tournament, no opponent cheating him, no him being shown to screw up..
Ultimate gohan gets a straight win..
That's all I ask..

Ya, if he dosen't get a straight win this time, round one against super buu totally counts :lol:
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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Kagari » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:37 pm

His Ultimate look is unique, so I'd say that. I'd rather no one else get Blue though since I dislike it as a whole.

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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by ChronoTwigger » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:48 pm

None of them. He will be used for gag fights.
So, no need for power ups.
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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Kagari » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:04 pm

ChronoTwigger wrote:None of them. He will be used for gag fights.
So, no need for power ups.
There's nothing that suggests this.

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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by ChronoTwigger » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:05 pm

Kagari wrote:
ChronoTwigger wrote:None of them. He will be used for gag fights.
So, no need for power ups.
There's nothing that suggests this.
And nothing indeed that suggest the opposite, and that's quite troubling.
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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by The gr » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:08 pm

I'm hoping he uses ultimate/mystic it represents his potential and no super Saiyan/god form because super Saiyan blue and god ki is so lame and I don't want to see Gohan with it or and I don't want to see Gohan with an asspull transformation like trunks
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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Gog » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:12 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:Just let his ultimate have ONE win, I ask no more..
For a form which represents all his hidden potential and is the best Powerup aside form god ki, it has a shameful track record..

I think they wouldn't give him his goku gi and make him look identical to his buu saga self if he wasn't ultimate
Oh, come on. The day Toriyama decided to let Gohan have a win with his ultimate form. Is the day that I eat a shoe!

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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Kagari » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:16 pm

ChronoTwigger wrote:
Kagari wrote:
ChronoTwigger wrote:None of them. He will be used for gag fights.
So, no need for power ups.
There's nothing that suggests this.
And nothing indeed that suggest the opposite, and that's quite troubling.
We actually know very little about what the entire cast will be doing in the next arc so why not wait and see.
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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by The gr » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:16 pm

Gog wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Just let his ultimate have ONE win, I ask no more..
For a form which represents all his hidden potential and is the best Powerup aside form god ki, it has a shameful track record..

I think they wouldn't give him his goku gi and make him look identical to his buu saga self if he wasn't ultimate
Oh, come on. The day Toriyama decided to let Gohan have a win with his ultimate form. Is the day that I eat a shoe!
So you want Gohan to get jobbed if that happen the internet is going to explode and I'm gonna lick the tears of the salty Gohan fans
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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:22 pm

Doctor. wrote:The ultimate form because it's unique and represents Gohan's hidden potential. Let's not ridicule Super Saiyan Blue any longer by giving it to fodder.
Too late it's already been given more or less to Trunks, and has never really won a fight outside of Copy Vegeta....which it also lost too since Copy Vegeta was also an SSJB.


Personally Ultimate at the very lowest. Blue in the middle. Or Something new and unique to him at the highest.
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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Doctor. » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:29 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Or Something new and unique to him at the highest.
So, something that comes out of nowhere with no explanation or build-up like SS Rage? :P

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Re: Which form should Gohan use now?

Post by Gog » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:36 pm

The gr wrote:
Gog wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Just let his ultimate have ONE win, I ask no more..
For a form which represents all his hidden potential and is the best Powerup aside form god ki, it has a shameful track record..

I think they wouldn't give him his goku gi and make him look identical to his buu saga self if he wasn't ultimate
Oh, come on. The day Toriyama decided to let Gohan have a win with his ultimate form. Is the day that I eat a shoe!
So you want Gohan to get jobbed if that happen the internet is going to explode and I'm gonna lick the tears of the salty Gohan fans
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The salt shall sustain me. But to not completely derail this thread, Gohan keeps the ultimate form, he dosen't get any other forms

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