The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:35 am

miguelnuva1 wrote: 2. What if a female saiyan landed on Earth with Goku and he marries her after the 23 budokai?
We get Saiyan sex. Also future generations won't be powerful because of no half breeds available, they all die When raditz arrives as gohan couldn't unleash any hidden power
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Gog » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:40 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:1. What if Frieza never destroyed Planet Vegeta?

2. What if a female saiyan landed on Earth with Goku and he marries her after the 23 budokai?

3. What if Goku taught the humans and Piccolo maxi fusion during the saiyan saga or the Android saga?
1. He would kill of the Sayians later, not much changes

2. Gohan never exists, we get an extra Saiyan warrior, and steamy hot Saiyan sex.

3. Does he even know that? Whatever human's and piccolo are now relevant to the plot

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by FoolsGil » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:18 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:1. What if Frieza never destroyed Planet Vegeta?
The Saiyans may or may not eventually rebel. Beers is going to be pissed when he wakes up and the Saiyans aren't dead. More so if Freeza is dead and the Saiyans are around still

As for Earth If Saiyan mothers are like human mothers, I suppose Gine would send Bardock to get Goku. Things could go south depending on what iteration of Bardock shows up.

2. What if a female saiyan landed on Earth with Goku and he marries her after the 23 budokai?
And she doesn't start killing or eating people? I suppose Gohan would still get born, Saiyan name pending. No, he may not be as strong fullblooded compared to half breed, but with two Saiyan parents he'll be more combat ready and fierce. That is, if Kami makes sure to keep the moon destroyed so three great apes don't terrorize the world. Btw, Piccolo is going to train a lot harder, knowing he now has two Saiyans to fight off before he can conquer the world

There'd need to be some explanations. Whose side is the female saiyan on, why is she on Earth? Those answers will explain how Raditz, let alone rest of the series is dealt with.

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by miguelnuva1 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:18 am

FoolsGil wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:1. What if Frieza never destroyed Planet Vegeta?

2. What if a female saiyan landed on Earth with Goku and he marries her after the 23 budokai?
And she doesn't start killing or eating people? I suppose Gohan would still get born, Saiyan name pending. No, he may not be as strong fullblooded compared to half breed, but with two Saiyan parents he'll be more combat ready and fierce. That is, if Kami makes sure to keep the moon destroyed so three great apes don't terrorize the world. Btw, Piccolo is going to train a lot harder, knowing he now has two Saiyans to fight off before he can conquer the world

There'd need to be some explanations. Whose side is the female saiyan on, why is she on Earth? Those answers will explain how Raditz, let alone rest of the series is dealt with.
She lands as a child with Goku, chooses to protect the planet alongside Goku and they get married. Think a Tusundre that is on Goku's side.

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Post by nickzambuto » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:16 am

What if candy Vegetto defeated Boo, used the Dragon Balls to wish everyone back to life, and years later (with Tarble's assistance) did the Super Saiyan God ritual to become Vegetto God of Candy? Then we would get to watch the epic climax of BoG with Beerus flying around fighting a coffee flavored jawbreaker.

How powerful would the God of Candy be!? Would the God form turn him cherry flavored? And then Blue makes him cotton candy?! Which flavor is the ultimate power and which would he need to defeat Zeno???

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Post by FoolsGil » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:54 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:
She lands as a child with Goku, chooses to protect the planet alongside Goku and they get married. Think a Tusundre that is on Goku's side.
Well Gohan wouldn't have a high power level, but knowing Goku with someone he can spar with near his level, he and this female Saiyan could be at a level where they kill Raditz. But let's say Raditz kills Goku still and everything gets out with the Dragonballs. things play out with everyone going to train with Kami except the female Saiyan. She passes Gohan to Master Roshi, and she decides to train personally with Piccolo, and training means, fight to the death without applying that killing blow, rest, repeat.

Year passes. With a suitable training partner, both the female Saiyan and Piccolo dwarf Nappa's power, but nowhere near Vegeta's. Any number of things happen, but it all ends up looking the same as in canon with Vegeta trying to escape. The series would still need a reason to go to Namek, so one or any combination of these three. Piccolo, Chaozu, Krillin must die,

For the Freeza Saga, The female Saiyan stays on Earth with Gohan. Due to changes, practically anyone outside of the Son Family could go on the ship with Bulma. Things more or less plays the same, though I think Tenshinhan with his potential unlocked may do far more damage than anyone else against the Ginyu Force, save Goku.

The Android Arcs and the Buu arcs are too convoluted without the extra Saiyan and a weaker Gohan. Let's just say the female Saiyan is not as stupid as her male counterparts. She keeps Cell from getting to his perfect form. Buu Saga may more or less play out the same however. Everything beyond that, Gohan is center stage as the hero, with him being the one to get SSJ God. (he wasn't feeling too confident about his abilities and power. Though Goku does have a score to settle with Beers, he lets Gohan fight him as a God. Goes better than expected.) From that point on, the series revolves around him and the next generation.

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:21 pm

What if the z fighters never stopped training, basically if every single one of them was a training junkie like goku
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Post by emperior » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:30 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:What if the z fighters never stopped training, basically if every single one of them was a training junkie like goku
Tenshinan exists and is proof they still would be crap
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Post by Gog » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:07 pm

emperior wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:What if the z fighters never stopped training, basically if every single one of them was a training junkie like goku
Tenshinan exists and is proof they still would be crap
If only he learned the kaio ken technique. If only :(

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Post by Noah » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:55 pm

New match:

Dabura vs. LSSJ Broly ( Movie 8 )
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:45 pm

Noah wrote:New match:

Dabura vs. LSSJ Broly ( Movie 8 )
Wrong thread.

Anyway, Broly wrecks him, Dabura was barely a match for FPSSJ Teen Gohan who was weaker than Kid Gohan who got stomped by Broly.

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Post by Gog » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:57 pm

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Post by Noah » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:06 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Wrong thread.

Anyway, Broly wrecks him, Dabura was barely a match for FPSSJ Teen Gohan who was weaker than Kid Gohan who got stomped by Broly.
What a shame :oops:

Anyway don't you think his stone spit could be useful?
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:09 pm

Noah wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Wrong thread.

Anyway, Broly wrecks him, Dabura was barely a match for FPSSJ Teen Gohan who was weaker than Kid Gohan who got stomped by Broly.
What a shame :oops:

Anyway don't you think his stone spit could be useful?
Given how brutal Broly is and the large gap in power, Dabura would likely be dead before he could use his spit, but assuming he manages to get it on Broly's skin he could win.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:02 pm

What if Zamasu had wiped the memory of Goku using the Super Dragon Balls and then led him on a path to evil? Instead of Goku Black being Zamasu. How would the story unfold? Assuming there is still a present time Goku.
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:25 am

GodKaio-Ken wrote:What if Zamasu had wiped the memory of Goku using the Super Dragon Balls and then led him on a path to evil? Instead of Goku Black being Zamasu. How would the story unfold? Assuming there is still a present time Goku.
It'd be pretty much the same, except Merged Zamasu would have more of Goku's traits and personality.

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Post by Merged Zamasu » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:53 am

GodKaio-Ken wrote:What if Zamasu had wiped the memory of Goku using the Super Dragon Balls and then led him on a path to evil? Instead of Goku Black being Zamasu. How would the story unfold? Assuming there is still a present time Goku.
We wouldn't have Super Sayan Rosè, as it requires Zamasu's Ki, which Goku obviously doesn't have.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:33 pm

What if Goku stole Zamasu's bodu and became Zamasu Black?

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Post by Merged Zamasu » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:43 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:What if Goku stole Zamasu's bodu and became Zamasu Black?
1) It would look terrible, as Zamasu is noble and elegant, Goku is just a filthy monkey. Goku would desecrate the beautiful temple that is Zamasu's body;

2) Goku would become weaker. He wouldn't have the Sayan's capability to grow stronger after each fight;

3) Goku would be influenced by Zamasu's ideals that mortals are inferior to the Gods, just like Black was influenced by the Sayan's desire for battle;

4) Goku would basically give Zamasu the key he needs to win, so not a smart move. If Goku takes control of Zamasu's body, Zamasu will take control of Goku's body, and that's exactly what Zamasu wants.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:47 pm

Merged Zamasu wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:What if Goku stole Zamasu's bodu and became Zamasu Black?
1) It would look terrible, as Zamasu is noble and elegant, Goku is just a filthy monkey. Goku would desecrate the beautiful temple that is Zamasu's body;

2) Goku would become weaker. He wouldn't have the Sayan's capability to grow stronger after each fight;

3) Goku would be influenced by Zamasu's ideals that mortals are inferior to the Gods, just like Black was influenced by the Sayan's desire for battle;

4) Goku would basically give Zamasu the key he needs to win, so not a smart move. If Goku takes control of Zamasu's body, Zamasu will take control of Goku's body, and that's exactly what Zamasu wants.
1) It wouldn't look any different, Goku Black is basically just a skinnier Goku with a different outfit.

2) Black appears to possess the power of both Goku and Zamasu so Goku would likely retain his own power.

3) The Saiyan desire for battle is biological whereas Zamasu reasoned out his hatred for mortals on his own.

4) Goku could kill Zamasu before he has the chance to realize what's going on and adjust to his new body.

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