Unpopular DB opinions

[Gog]

I think that the ending to the Black arc was possibly the best one we got. It basically made it that all the asspulls in the entire arc were rendered null. Thus making future trunks not as unlikable.

[The gr]

Interestingly enough, future Trunks was poorly developed in the manga whilst the opposite is true in DBS.

Care to elaborate?

[The Patrolman]

I have no problem with the lazy transformations nowadays. Maybe its fan made transformations (Multiverse) look generally odd and unappealing to my liking

[Gog]

I have no problem with the lazy transformations nowadays. Maybe its fan made transformations (Multiverse) look generally odd and unappealing to my liking

Oh, my god, I could rant for days on the form, in dragon ball multiverse the sixth form, which is just so over elaborately designed that its actually hideous

[Doctor.]

Interestingly enough, future Trunks was poorly developed in the manga whilst the opposite is true in DBS.

Care to elaborate?

Future Trunks in the original manga never developed much. His relationship with Vegeta was incredibly rushed. Beyond that, he's the exact same person the moment he appears and the moment he leaves.

Super's Trunks constantly gets broken, showcases cases of PTSD and, despite how bullshit the scene was, him killing Zamasu and his speech during it was cathartic because it showcases the growth of his mental fortitude.

[Noah]

Future Trunks in the original manga never developed much. His relationship with Vegeta was incredibly rushed. Beyond that, he's the exact same person the moment he appears and the moment he leaves.

Super's Trunks constantly gets broken, showcases cases of PTSD and, despite how bullshit the scene was, him killing Zamasu and his speech during it was cathartic because it showcases the growth of his mental fortitude.

Well if you're comparing Super (anime) with the original manga, I think it's unfair to not include Dragon Ball Z anime too, where we had the outstanding TV Special 2, a brief expansion of Trunks training in RoSaT with Vegeta and his speech to Cell before their battle.

[Doctor.]

Future Trunks in the original manga never developed much. His relationship with Vegeta was incredibly rushed. Beyond that, he's the exact same person the moment he appears and the moment he leaves.

Super's Trunks constantly gets broken, showcases cases of PTSD and, despite how bullshit the scene was, him killing Zamasu and his speech during it was cathartic because it showcases the growth of his mental fortitude.

Well if you're comparing Super (anime) with the original manga, I think it's unfair to not include Dragon Ball Z anime too, where we had the outstanding TV Special 2, a brief expansion of Trunks training in RoSaT with Vegeta and his speech to Cell before their battle.

I don't think that changes much. The TV special was great sure, but it was in the manga too.

[Esfír Dedragón]

If so, I have even more reason to despise the makers of that movie.

How so? Did you think Mai was not that good in Super? I think Alternate Mai was fantastic.

No, I do not.

Neither she nor her alternate future counterparts were in any definition "fantastic".

I consider her character in Super as a major cancer, among other things.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I have no problem with the lazy transformations nowadays. Maybe its fan made transformations (Multiverse) look generally odd and unappealing to my liking

Oh, my god, I could rant for days on the form, in dragon ball multiverse the sixth form, which is just so over elaborately designed that its actually hideous

I actually find it fitting that it's so ugly and monstrous.

[Gog]

I have no problem with the lazy transformations nowadays. Maybe its fan made transformations (Multiverse) look generally odd and unappealing to my liking

Oh, my god, I could rant for days on the form, in dragon ball multiverse the sixth form, which is just so over elaborately designed that its actually hideous

I actually find it fitting that it's so ugly and monstrous.

How is it fitting? Its just plain ugly, there's no ugly beauty in it, its just ugly, and over designed

[kinisking]

I have no problem with the lazy transformations nowadays. Maybe its fan made transformations (Multiverse) look generally odd and unappealing to my liking

Especially considering almost all of them aren't actual transformations. SSG is just base with God ki, ssb is super Saiyan with God ki, ss rose is just blacks ss. The only true transformation is ss ikari which looks different.

[rereboy]

How is it fitting? Its just plain ugly, there's no ugly beauty in it, its just ugly, and over designed

Personally, I also like over the top things and monster designs, and it looks good to me within those parameters, so it works. I've seen plenty of designs that exist inside those parameters but don't look good to me. Being streamlined (like Freeza's true form) is just an option or preference, not a requirement.

[Gog]

How is it fitting? Its just plain ugly, there's no ugly beauty in it, its just ugly, and over designed

Personally, I also like over the top things and monster designs, and it looks good to me within those parameters, so it works. Being streamlined (like Freeza's true form) is just an option or preference, not a requirement.

No, its not that, the form is just. Ugly, and too over the top, I love monster forms, the third form is one of my favorite forms, but when you grow two whole new arms, gain so many spikes, that even Syn Shenron would be envious of, and also to top off the shit barrel that this shit form hides in from my wrath, its also an asspull

[rereboy]

No, its not that, the form is just. Ugly,

That's just an opinion. It's subjective.

and too over the top,

Also opinion. For me, it's not so much that I dislike it at all.

I love monster forms, the third form is one of my favorite forms, but when you grow two whole new arms, gain so many spikes, that even Syn Shenron would be envious of, and also to top off the shit barrel that this shit form hides in from my wrath, its also an asspull

Again, opinion.

[Gog]

No, its not that, the form is just. Ugly,

Opinion.

and too over the top,

Opinion. For me, it's not so much that I dislike it.

I love monster forms, the third form is one of my favorite forms, but when you grow two whole new arms, gain so many spikes, that even Syn Shenron would be envious of, and also to top off the shit barrel that this shit form hides in from my wrath, its also an asspull

Opinion.

Yeah its all opinions, but at the very least, why grow two extra arms? Makes no sense, and I can like the form, if it removes the arms, tones down he spikes, and shrinks it a bit

[TheUltimateNinja]

How is it fitting? Its just plain ugly, there's no ugly beauty in it, its just ugly, and over designed

Personally, I also like over the top things and monster designs, and it looks good to me within those parameters, so it works. Being streamlined (like Freeza's true form) is just an option or preference, not a requirement.

No, its not that, the form is just. Ugly, and too over the top, I love monster forms, the third form is one of my favorite forms, but when you grow two whole new arms, gain so many spikes, that even Syn Shenron would be envious of, and also to top off the shit barrel that this shit form hides in from my wrath, its also an asspull

Ugly and over the top is exactly what I like about it. It's definitely an asspull, but the design fits. The design is over the top because the form itself is over the top. Not only has he found a form stronger than their natural maximum, but another form even beyond that? The concept itself is so absurd that it merits an equally absurd design.
And the ugly appearance suits his character, it wouldn't fit for someone like say Goku, but for evil bastards like the Cold family that's about right.

[rereboy]

Yeah its all opinions, but at the very least, why grow two extra arms? Makes no sense,

Because it fits the theme they decided to go for the design: over the top monster.

and I can like the form, if it removes the arms, tones down he spikes, and shrinks it a bit

Still an opinion. I get that you don't like it and that's fine but there's also no point in stating that it's ugly or looks bad as if it was a fact.

[ekrolo2]

Ugly and over the top is exactly what I like about it. It's definitely an asspull, but the design fits. The design is over the top because the form itself is over the top. Not only has he found a form stronger than their natural maximum, but another form even beyond that? The concept itself is so absurd that it merits an equally absurd design.
And the ugly appearance suits his character, it wouldn't fit for someone like say Goku, but for evil bastards like the Cold family that's about right.

I think it works also as a successor to forms like 2, 3 and Cooler's fifth. They're all meant to look scary and intimidating in a more straightforward way. Even if they sacriice common sense to do it. Third form Freeza looks freaky as hell but his massive head that's almost the size of his chest is nothing but a big ass target for a good opponent to exploit. Fuck, Krillin could probably leave him permanently brain damaged if he cut off half of it.

[Gog]

Ugly and over the top is exactly what I like about it. It's definitely an asspull, but the design fits. The design is over the top because the form itself is over the top. Not only has he found a form stronger than their natural maximum, but another form even beyond that? The concept itself is so absurd that it merits an equally absurd design.
And the ugly appearance suits his character, it wouldn't fit for someone like say Goku, but for evil bastards like the Cold family that's about right.

You like ugly and over the top? We can all agree on the fact that this form is a horrible asspull, it really does in concept, but in actuality the design was botched to seven hells. So by that logic the next form is going to be the size of a gnat? The design, is just too over the top, unlike the golden form, which manages to balance it out. The ugly appearance doesn't suit the cold family as their meant to be non threatening looking.

Then why don't the saiyans look like that when they turn super saiyan two? Honestly my main problem with the form as of whole, is that its too over the top too spiky.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Look at this, this is just so overly designed, I'm going to state it, but I think your actually meant to like this form's design. But from what they did, its just too much, the form would work, if they toned down he spikes and just ditched the second pair of arms entirely. In fact, its so overly designed that I just noticed some new design details on it.

This is an ugly edgy form, that belongs with those super saiyan five forms

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Jesus, it also must hurt to draw it, and it hurts my eyes looking at this.

Should be able to hit three birds with two stones.

I think it works also as a successor to forms like 2, 3 and Cooler's fifth. They're all meant to look scary and intimidating in a more straightforward way. Even if they sacriice common sense to do it. Third form Freeza looks freaky as hell but his massive head that's almost the size of his chest is nothing but a big ass target for a good opponent to exploit. Fuck, Krillin could probably leave him permanently brain damaged if he cut off half of it.

But thats the problem the form is too overly elaborate for its own good, it just borders on nauseating when you see it. All of it, its just so much, I decided to count how many spikes where on it, I stopped at twelve. Third form Freeza unfortunately got hit with the evolution stick, the massive head is actually meant to be intimidation. I like to imagine that his brain's the same size, its just the bone grows outwards.

Because it fits the theme they decided to go for the design: over the top monster.

*Drinks some beer* [spoiler][/spoiler] This is the problem they can go with over the top monster, all they like, and I would like it, but fuck, I just noticed an extra design detail only now, and I counted more than twelve spikes. In fact I'm a betting boy, and from what we've seen I'd like to make the bet that If King Cold wasn't going to fight against Bra, this form would never have existed, in fact even then it probably never would, but since Slagir's main character was so hated, he needed to find a way to make her likeable. Or at the very least tone down the spikes

Still an opinion. I get that you don't like it and that's fine but there's also no point in stating that it's ugly or looks bad as if it was a fact.

Yeah its my opinion, but fuck, and pardon me for swearing, but its just so overly designed, that when looking at it head on, I get so nauseated from how over the top it is.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Ugly and over the top is exactly what I like about it. It's definitely an asspull, but the design fits. The design is over the top because the form itself is over the top. Not only has he found a form stronger than their natural maximum, but another form even beyond that? The concept itself is so absurd that it merits an equally absurd design.
And the ugly appearance suits his character, it wouldn't fit for someone like say Goku, but for evil bastards like the Cold family that's about right.

I think it works also as a successor to forms like 2, 3 and Cooler's fifth. They're all meant to look scary and intimidating in a more straightforward way. Even if they sacriice common sense to do it. Third form Freeza looks freaky as hell but his massive head that's almost the size of his chest is nothing but a big ass target for a good opponent to exploit. Fuck, Krillin could probably leave him permanently brain damaged if he cut off half of it.

Maybe Frieza's third form actually dramatically increases his intelligence, which is why he realized he needed to transform as soon as possible. Also, transforming erases all damage he takes so he could probably just go to his final form if he got part of his head sliced off.