"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[kinisking]

I love his auras. Wish the animals had the same ssb effects.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I wonder if we'll get an explanation of what is exactly the Super Saiyan Rosé transformation in this chapter.

We did. It is the Super Saiyan Blue form of the gods. Black obtained it after getting a near-death power-up that made him stronger than SSB Vegeta, and his regular SS form became SSR.

[SaiyanGod117]

Wow Goku black looks like a badass in this[spoiler][/spoiler] [spoiler][/spoiler] a special thanks to white SDBH for posting these in his Twitter

Seeing as how the aura looks (similar to SSJB) and the shaded hair, I'm assuming this is Black already tapping into Super Saiyan Rose and kicking Vegeta's ass. Also, Zamasu stealing the Senzu Beans from Goku kinda reminded me how Gohan took back the Senzus from Cell.
It seems like the Mafuba is actually not just a Toei thing, but also a Toriyama thing. Interesting.
Gotta love how Trunks used the Taiyo-ken on Black and Zamasu. It's nice seeing that move return. Though I still kinda like how in the anime, the human resistance saved Goku and co.
since that did ended up making them relevant.

Flash bangs and Smoke bombs effecting Black and Zamasu is outright stupid, this is much better.

[The gr]

Wow Goku black looks like a badass in this[spoiler][/spoiler] [spoiler][/spoiler] a special thanks to white SDBH for posting these in his Twitter

Seeing as how the aura looks (similar to SSJB) and the shaded hair, I'm assuming this is Black already tapping into Super Saiyan Rose and kicking Vegeta's ass. Also, Zamasu stealing the Senzu Beans from Goku kinda reminded me how Gohan took back the Senzus from Cell.
It seems like the Mafuba is actually not just a Toei thing, but also a Toriyama thing. Interesting.
Gotta love how Trunks used the Taiyo-ken on Black and Zamasu. It's nice seeing that move return.

You can clearly tell toyble is a huge fanboy I mean look at Goku Black he looks like Majin Vegeta and there was similar scene to Goku kaioken against nappa in chapter 19

[Noah]

We did. It is the Super Saiyan Blue form of the gods. Black obtained it after getting a near-death power-up that made him stronger than SSB Vegeta, and his regular SS form became SSR.

Don't know if I like it, that could mean Rosé is not Black exclusive form?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Don't know if I like it, that could mean Rosé is not Black exclusive form?

It is exclusive to Saiyan gods, and Black is the only one so far. If Goku & Vegeta were to become Kami or Hakaishin (the only god positions mortals can take), their SSB would turn into SSR according to this.

[dbzfan7]

Man the manga did a bunch of changes I am all for. A lot of better things than how the anime handled it. The only question I have remaining, is how Trunks is gonna survive without Super Saiyan Asspull...I mean Super Saiyan Ragepull....I mean Super Saiyan AssRage...whatever. Much prefer the build up to rose here, the taiyoken even though I'm not sure if F. Gohan ever really learned that, and Goku stomping Zamasu instead of him being Super OP somehow. Also no Trunks tanking something that should have killed him.

Also adore how psychotic Goku Black looks.

Don't know if I like it, that could mean Rosé is not Black exclusive form?

It is exclusive to Saiyan gods, and Black is the only one so far. If Goku & Vegeta were to become Kami or Hakaishin (the only god positions mortals can take), their SSB would turn into SSR according to this.

Other than colour, I wonder if this really makes a difference or if it's just cosmetic.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Can I just say that I'm in love with what I've seen from chapter 20 so far? I think even the detractors will like this one, it's truly defying our expectations. This arc will go on for a few months longer, it seems.

[Noah]

...the taiyoken even though I'm not sure if F. Gohan ever really learned that...

He didn't need to learn to taught Trunks, Taiyoken seems to be easy technique like the Kamehameha, Goku did it (23rd TB) after seeing Tien doing once (22nd TB).

[Bansho64]

Wow Goku black looks like a badass in this[spoiler][/spoiler] [spoiler][/spoiler] a special thanks to white SDBH for posting these in his Twitter

Woah, Black's looking borderline devilish at this point. Seriously, the guy looks creepy. I can't believe Toyotarou pulled off, what I consider to be, an amazing design. In my opinion, out of all official modern Dragon Ball designs, this specific one is probably one of the best. It's definitely in my top 20 in regards to modern DB.

The manga and anime are the same story. Vegeta's SSJ2 surpassed Goku's SSJ3 in BOG arc.
Who ever said the manga is seperate from the anime movie is out right false. Hence why Vegeta was balling up Black in SSJ2.

They're two different stories man. Different events happen in both stories, which differentiates the two.

[Freeza9000]

Flash bangs and Smoke bombs effecting Black and Zamasu is outright stupid, this is much better

I don't mind the flashbangs much as it might have similar effects as the Taiyoken, but smoke grenades effecting Black and Zamasu were a bit contrived I must admit. Though somehow I don't mind it much since, like i said former, that made the humans relevant.

[Simere]

Don't know if I like it, that could mean Rosé is not Black exclusive form?

It is exclusive to Saiyan gods, and Black is the only one so far. If Goku & Vegeta were to become Kami or Hakaishin (the only god positions mortals can take), their SSB would turn into SSR according to this.

Whis said when Goku became a SSG that, though he might not be on their level, he was as much of a god as the Kaioshin or Gods of Destruction.

[Boo Machine]

From what I've seen of the recent chapter it looks like Goku is going back with the plan to learn the Mafuba. Good. I'm not one who usually praises the manga much, but I appreciate this small change. This should have been Goku's plan the first time they went back in the anime, instead of the second attempt where nothing was different except they hoped that maybe Black wouldn't be there anymore. With the manga it's always small changes, but a few of the small changes mean quite a bit. Like Zamasu destroying the beans instead of Goku forgetting them. I imagine something similar will happen with the mafuba jar.

I'm curious how trunks is going to survive without all the RAGE!!!

Also glad to see Rose is here. Love me those Pink locks.

[kinisking]

Man the manga did a bunch of changes I am all for. A lot of better things than how the anime handled it. The only question I have remaining, is how Trunks is gonna survive without Super Saiyan Asspull...I mean Super Saiyan Ragepull....I mean Super Saiyan AssRage...whatever. Much prefer the build up to rose here, the taiyoken even though I'm not sure if F. Gohan ever really learned that, and Goku stomping Zamasu instead of him being Super OP somehow. Also no Trunks tanking something that should have killed him.

Also adore how psychotic Goku Black looks.

Don't know if I like it, that could mean Rosé is not Black exclusive form?

It is exclusive to Saiyan gods, and Black is the only one so far. If Goku & Vegeta were to become Kami or Hakaishin (the only god positions mortals can take), their SSB would turn into SSR according to this.

Other than colour, I wonder if this really makes a difference or if it's just cosmetic.

Ss rage is coming, I guarantee it.

Gohan saw solar flare on namek i think, so he learnt it there probably. Techniques in Dragonball are usually extremely easy to learn.

Future Zamasu had 17 extra years of training, I don't mind him being stronger. Especially when it was clear that Goku was still stronger than him.

I don't know how I feel about goku thinking of the mafuba and controlling the time machine. Takes away roles from piccolo and bulma.

[TheSaiyanGod]

That of god in the body of a Saiyajin is more theory to try to explain Black's absurd Zenkais in the anime and manga. It was never said, we do not know if gods that become SSB get pink, in my view Zamasu was just arrogant saying that the form that surpasses the SSG is pink when in fact we know that the SSB already surpasses the SSG.

Funny that now everyone loves the manga because Black did something, but before they only knew how to complain without even seeing other good points, just for being Black's fans.
And that having reached the edge of Zenkais is also strange. It has never been said that there is limit of Zenkais that the body tolerates, it has only been said that Vegeta trained a lot.
But it still does not make sense to have Black Zenkais and Vegeta not. Vegeta then can not evolve anymore? Of course not

[Miracles]

Who ever said the manga is seperate from the anime movie is out right false. Hence why Vegeta was balling up Black in SSJ2.

They're two different stories man. Different events happen in both stories, which differentiates the two.

No, the slightly different; insignificant events, that don't effect the story, do NOT change the story. They are both the same.
You people are nitpicking.

[Doctor.]

Really continuing to absolutely despite Black's portrayal in the manga. It's like he's a completely different character.

[Beerus-sama]

- Roooooséeeee
*the manga has revived for me *
but still don't like so much how Toyotaro draws black with majin Vegeta like eyes
But I like he did draw the ahoge

-Black beated Vegeta and he was so menacing having Trunks face when Goku and Vegeta were going to the past

- And Rosé being explained as the gods ssjblue is still weird, I don´t buy it fully since its being said gods ki can't be sensed by mortals and SSJBlue ki can't be sensed... the form already was named SSJgod super saiyan but will change if you are a legit god? It doesn't make much sense unless its just Zamasu guessing since he hasn't heard about the SSJGSSJ name before it was renamed blue?
... although its not bad...

I need to read it entirely to have a full opinion on the chapter, but for now I'm happy with rosé

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Really continuing to absolutely despite Black's portrayal in the manga. It's like he's a completely different character.

We've barely seen any of the new chapter yet, even less of it has been translated. Sounds like you've made your mind up beforehand, not that I mind if you don't like it.

Or have I missed something?

[Doctor.]

Really continuing to absolutely despite Black's portrayal in the manga. It's like he's a completely different character.

We've barely seen any of the new chapter yet, even less of it has been translated. Sounds like you've made your mind up beforehand, not that I mind if you don't like it.

Or have I missed something?

It's not like Dragon Ball is hard to get. We've had multiple chapters with Black so far, plus Herms has been translating the most important parts of the chapter on his Twitter and most of the pages are out; I already know the relevant information, two or three untranslated speech bubbles aren't gonna make a big difference. All the interesting character traits I liked about him are gone, I already disliked him last chapter, this one is just an addendum.