Dead Z-Fighters in Future Trunks' timeline

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Dead Z-Fighters in Future Trunks' timeline

Post by ZPolk01 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:26 pm

Well, there are two Trunks' and two Mais and it's a point before Goku Black killed Future Bulma, so the stronger Trunks already dealt with Goku Black by now, and so, hopefully, somehow, Bulma will remember New Namek, so, both the Trunks' and both the Mai's will help her construct it, then they to New Namek, collect the Dragon Balls, and use Porunga to revive Future Gohan, as well as the future versions of Vegeta, Piccolo, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chaozu. I don't know if Goku can be revived due to him dying of a natural cause (a heart virus), cause I never knew if Porunga could do that despite being powerful than Shenlong (Shenron).

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Post by Nejishiki » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:30 am

Future Bluma & Future Trunks moved on from their deaths in their first ending (defeating Future Cell). I don't see why they would bother making the arduous trip to New Namek when they didn't in their first peace period. The same issues apply: They don't know its location & technology is stunted. Supposing civilization rebuilds itself sufficiently (in their prime lifespans), roughly 40-50 years will pass (about 30 years included in that figure from Future Trunks' birth-Zamasu's defeat) since their deaths. Putting that into perspective, that seems extremely unreasonable. The next generation of humanity will be older than them! :P

Yes, Future Goku died of natural causes so that will likely affect his revival. Future Vegeta isn't a decent person like the developed alternate present Vegeta is. Aside from that, Dragon Team is likely enjoying their heavenly training or rest. It's okay to let the dead remain dead at this point. We all have to go eventually & their deaths were honored all the same.

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Re: Dead Z-Fighters in Future Trunks' timeline

Post by jplaya2023 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:29 pm

dragon can only restore someone if they died in a year

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Re: Dead Z-Fighters in Future Trunks' timeline

Post by nato25 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:35 pm

jplaya2023 wrote:dragon can only restore someone if they died in a year
Tell that to mecha frieza...

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Re: Dead Z-Fighters in Future Trunks' timeline

Post by Nejishiki » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:43 pm

Shen Long won't revive groups of people who have been dead for more than one year. Reviving single souls, like Freeza, is okay.

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Re: Dead Z-Fighters in Future Trunks' timeline

Post by Slaythe » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:45 am

So how did 17 get resurrected exactly in the present ?

His body was blown up. Not only that, but he technically died in heaven when Cell exploded.

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Re: Dead Z-Fighters in Future Trunks' timeline

Post by LuckyCat » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:23 pm

Slaythe wrote:So how did 17 get resurrected exactly in the present ?

His body was blown up. Not only that, but he technically died in heaven when Cell exploded.
Maybe #17 was mostly digested by Cell already and couldn't come out the way #18 did. Either way, his fate's no different than the others absorbed by Cell who came back from the Dragon's wish.

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Re: Dead Z-Fighters in Future Trunks' timeline

Post by Slaythe » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:08 pm

Cell absorbed 18 2 hours after he absorbed 17.

If weeks left her alive, no reason to believe 17 would have died :p .

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Re: Dead Z-Fighters in Future Trunks' timeline

Post by ZPolk01 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:54 pm

Nejishiki wrote:Future Bluma & Future Trunks moved on from their deaths in their first ending (defeating Future Cell). I don't see why they would bother making the arduous trip to New Namek when they didn't in their first peace period. The same issues apply: They don't know its location & technology is stunted. Supposing civilization rebuilds itself sufficiently (in their prime lifespans), roughly 40-50 years will pass (about 30 years included in that figure from Future Trunks' birth-Zamasu's defeat) since their deaths. Putting that into perspective, that seems extremely unreasonable. The next generation of humanity will be older than them! :P

Yes, Future Goku died of natural causes so that will likely affect his revival. Future Vegeta isn't a decent person like the developed alternate present Vegeta is. Aside from that, Dragon Team is likely enjoying their heavenly training or rest. It's okay to let the dead remain dead at this point. We all have to go eventually & their deaths were honored all the same.
Yeah, Trunks got over Gohan's death, that's why he was crying about not being able to protect the world to him in the last ep of the Future Trunks Arc.

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Re: Dead Z-Fighters in Future Trunks' timeline

Post by Nejishiki » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:54 am

If that's what you took from my entire message, should I conclude that you aren't interested in what anyone has to say? I feel as if you deliberately took my words out of context & responded by taking another scene out of context for the sole purpose of shutting interpretation down. The fact remains that they deemed it unnecessary before Bobbidi & Goku Black's arrivals. At any rate, yes, Future Trunks was tearful at that moment. Let's not neglect that those feelings welled up when he saw Gohan face-to-face & it was an emotional reaction to recent events.

It would behoove you to recall that in the very same moment, present Gohan managed to encourage his spirit & reassured him that his actions weren't in vain, despite destruction of his original world. That's not quite the impression you were attempting to portray, that Future Bluma & Future Trunks felt bothered by Future Gohan's passing daily, now isn't it? It's possible to accept someone's death while reflecting on circumstances that revive unpleasant feelings. We do this in our everyday lives but you wouldn't claim we're emotionally wrecked in those brief moments of tragedy. The sarcastic reply devoid of substance wasn't warranted, thank you.

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