"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[ArchedThunder]

Cell was in the newtype description, so maybe you guys should calm down.

[namekiansaiyan]

I want them to be tag battles in episode 76
Goku and Buu vs Goku and Krillin and then Vegeta and Piccolo vs Goku and Krillin.

Maybe it could end up foreshadowing tag teams for the universal survival tournament.

[Ki Breaker]

So many people missed that cell indeed is there..
Quite surprising..

No toie, NO..
Krillin is not a coward..
Knowing toie, Krillin is shitting his pants like in rof arc.. That's not the Krillin who is loved..

If you can't show them powerup, just make up a shitty problem they never had and show them overcome it, great!
This was also done with goku dropping his guard, he was trained in that by popo in Dragonball itself..

[ArchedThunder]

No toie, NO..
Krillin is not a coward..
Knowing toie, Krillin is shitting his pants like in rof arc.. That's not the Krillin who is loved..

Krillin was visibly afraid many times in Z. Plus we have characters like Buu who actually killed him before and are much stronger than him and he has a family he has to worry about. Then there is also the fact that he doesn't train much at all anymore, in F he was way out of practice and here he probably isn't much stronger than in F if at all.

This was also done with goku dropping his guard, he was trained in that by popo in Dragonball itself..

Characters dropping their guard happened all the time in Z... if you want to get really close to F in timeline how about the time Goku dropped his guard against Vegeta in the Buu arc and got one shotted?

[DragonSkyX]

The epic journey of Kuririn, is because he is weak, but even weak he is there to battle with enemies.

I think if he get the fight spirit again, perhaps, he will more confindent in Survival Universe arc. I'm hope

[FortuneSSJ]

Knowing toie, Krillin is shitting his pants like in rof arc.. That's not the Krillin who is loved..

I'm curious, who is that Krillin you're talking about? In the last years, I only see people hate on him and Yamcha.
And ROF was not the first time Krillin was scared.

He was scared before his first fight in 21st Tenkaichi Budokai.
He was scared when he realized they weren't the only ones in Namek looking for the Dragon Balls.
He was scared of Dodoria.
He was scared of Zarbon.
He was scared of Ginyu Force.
He was scared of Freeza.
He was scared when Mecha Freeza came to Earth.
He was scared when Vegeta and the others were fighting C17 and C18.
He was scared of Cell Juniors.
He was scared of Majin Buu.

What makes Krillin's character great is that he never back off, if he really has to fight. Despite him being scared and knowing he can't win.
ROF arc just made him feel more human and what happened is more about psychological than power levels. Some people just see numbers in DB fights and then never understand characters behaviours.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Cell was in the newtype description, so maybe you guys should calm down.

Lol you're talking to the DB fanbase here Arched overrractions based on half information are what we're known for...!

[HeroR]

Cell was in the newtype description, so maybe you guys should calm down.

Lol you're talking to the DB fanbase here Arched overrractions based on half information are what we're known for...!

I do find Dragon Ball fans to be dense compared to most fandoms I visit. Only the game fandom is worst in this regard.

[Smilodon]

I'm curious, who is that Krillin you're talking about? In the last years, I only see people hate on him and Yamcha.
And ROF was not the first time Krillin was scared.

He was scared before his first fight in 21st Tenkaichi Budokai.
He was scared when he realized they weren't the only ones in Namek looking for the Dragon Balls.
He was scared of Dodoria.
He was scared of Zarbon.
He was scared of Ginyu Force.
He was scared of Freeza.
He was scared when Mecha Freeza came to Earth.
He was scared when Vegeta and the others were fighting C17 and C18.
He was scared of Cell Juniors.
He was scared of Majin Buu.

What makes Krillin's character great is that he never back off, if he really has to fight. Despite him being scared and knowing he can't win.
ROF arc just made him feel more human and what happened is more about psychological than power levels. Some people just see numbers in DB fights and then never understand characters behaviours.

I don't agree...In your list, all of them was much stronger than him (except his debut at 21st TB, but it was his first fight, he was a Kid and that guy was the one bullying him before...And he didn't realized his power).

The others on the list? Dodoria, Zarbon, Ginyu Force and Freeza? You can't compare with him. Even Vegeta was afraid of them...Vegeta also runned away when Freeza was fighting Piccolo;
When Freeza came back to earth he was really scared because Freeza killed him;
C17, C18, Cell Juniors he was scared too, but the gap between them is impossible for him!
Against Boo he fought trying to protect C18 and his daughter...

He also had another times when he was afraid of guys. But my point is....He was afraid when the enemy was too much stronger than him (almost all the time, I know). But in ROF he was afraid of those Freeza's minions. Those guys was crap against him. And he wasn't scared by guys like them before...In namek he fought those guys easily.

[kinisking]

Knowing toie, Krillin is shitting his pants like in rof arc.. That's not the Krillin who is loved..

I'm curious, who is that Krillin you're talking about? In the last years, I only see people hate on him and Yamcha.
And ROF was not the first time Krillin was scared.

He was scared before his first fight in 21st Tenkaichi Budokai.
He was scared when he realized they weren't the only ones in Namek looking for the Dragon Balls.
He was scared of Dodoria.
He was scared of Zarbon.
He was scared of Ginyu Force.
He was scared of Freeza.
He was scared when Mecha Freeza came to Earth.
He was scared when Vegeta and the others were fighting C17 and C18.
He was scared of Cell Juniors.
He was scared of Majin Buu.

What makes Krillin's character great is that he never back off, if he really has to fight. Despite him being scared and knowing he can't win.
ROF arc just made him feel more human and what happened is more about psychological than power levels. Some people just see numbers in DB fights and then never understand characters behaviours.

Krillin understandably got scared a lot but they never focused on if half as much as they do now. He usually got his fighting spirit immediately rather than him fighting his inner demons for a while. Super exaggerates this quality. I'll wait for the episode though.

[Boo Machine]

I'm curious, who is that Krillin you're talking about? In the last years, I only see people hate on him and Yamcha.
And ROF was not the first time Krillin was scared.

He was scared before his first fight in 21st Tenkaichi Budokai.
He was scared when he realized they weren't the only ones in Namek looking for the Dragon Balls.
He was scared of Dodoria.
He was scared of Zarbon.
He was scared of Ginyu Force.
He was scared of Freeza.
He was scared when Mecha Freeza came to Earth.
He was scared when Vegeta and the others were fighting C17 and C18.
He was scared of Cell Juniors.
He was scared of Majin Buu.

What makes Krillin's character great is that he never back off, if he really has to fight. Despite him being scared and knowing he can't win.
ROF arc just made him feel more human and what happened is more about psychological than power levels. Some people just see numbers in DB fights and then never understand characters behaviours.

I don't agree...In your list, all of them was much stronger than him (except his debut at 21st TB, but it was his first fight, he was a Kid and that guy was the one bullying him before...And he didn't realized his power).

The others on the list? Dodoria, Zarbon, Ginyu Force and Freeza? You can't compare with him. Even Vegeta was afraid of them...Vegeta also runned away when Freeza was fighting Piccolo;
When Freeza came back to earth he was really scared because Freeza killed him;
C17, C18, Cell Juniors he was scared too, but the gap between them is impossible for him!
Against Boo he fought trying to protect C18 and his daughter...

He also had another times when he was afraid of guys. But my point is....He was afraid when the enemy was too much stronger than him (almost all the time, I know). But in ROF he was afraid of those Freeza's minions. Those guys was crap against him. And he wasn't scared by guys like them before...In namek he fought those guys easily.

I suppose if you wanted to you could chalk it up to an irrational fear. Logically he shouldn't be afraid but a bad experience could make anyone afraid of anything that has a relation to that experience. That could be what makes him more human.

[FortuneSSJ]

But in ROF he was afraid of those Freeza's minions. Those guys was crap against him. And he wasn't scared by guys like them before...In namek he fought those guys easily.

Yeah before he got killed by Freeza, their leader...

Krillin's behaviour in that ROF scene it's not about power levels. He wasn't exactly scared of the soldiers.

The trauma of being killed by Freeza, who got revived, became stronger, and wanted to kill him again, is what made the not so brave Krillin lose all his confidence.
He wasn't already confident when he was wearing his Gi. But he's not a coward, so he decided to go and fight too anyway.

When a person gets scared, following logic is not an easy thing to do. And that's when Roshi stepped up and helped him in not letting fear take the best of him.
It's actually a well done scene and makes Krillin's character feel more human.

[kinisking]

Actually after reflection I'm not too upset about Krillin. I mean he did freeze up out of fear against the androids.

[precita]

So the episode description is based Goku smells weed and gets illusions of his past villains?

[gipset]

At the end of the day, Krillin needs to man up and do something different. No reason why some of the characters introduced aren't on his level. Not everybody coming in the next arc is going to be Hit.

[dbzfan7]

But in ROF he was afraid of those Freeza's minions. Those guys was crap against him. And he wasn't scared by guys like them before...In namek he fought those guys easily.

Not to mention everyone was randomly scared of him being swarmed by weak mooks, and Roshi had to literally tell him he is way stronger. And Krillin had to actually realize this after dodging one of them easily. Freeza wasn't even coming for him....at all. Piccolo even had to tell Krillin to run....from what? From those losers...really. I doubt they could hurt him...much less kill him. Nowhere do they mention it is about Freeza....at all.

And there's also the fact anyone could have bolted right over and covered Krillin at any moment, as the mooks may as well have been paper mache . They only didn't show up cause forced drama...which it was.

If you wanted his PTSD to be more justified. Have Freeza threaten to come over there if he moves. Then he has a reason to be terrified, and then have his bravery redemption when he fights on despite Freeza threatening to kill him if he moves.

[Lord Frieza]

I'm betting Goku and Kuririn find this "plant", eat it and start tripping which results in them seeing "phantoms" of their old foes.

[Chuquita]

I'm betting Goku and Kuririn find this "plant", eat it and start tripping which results in them seeing "phantoms" of their old foes.

This is the theory I think will be true. They'll either eat it or smell it and that's what'll cause the illusions.

[LightBing]

How likely are Babidi type shenanigans to happen at the tournament?
I mean to change the arena into X and Y planet. If combination attacks are possible everything is. The weird arena might work as a chaotic device to make the fights more entertaining and satisfy the Zeno-chan's sadistic nature.

[Freeza9000]

I'm liking what I'm hearing so far about Episode 76. It seems like Goku and Krillin are gonna be fighting against past enemies, even past evil versions of Vegeta, Boo, and Piccolo. As a fan of Krillin, I am quite interested in what has yet to come when he and Goku face these illusionary characters. I also see this as preparation for next tournament. BTW, I'm still very relieved it's not Goku and Vegeta....