The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:26 am

dragon boss z wrote:
RedShift wrote:Heres one you don't nomrally see...
Bojack vs Dabura
Bojack seemed to be weaker than Cell, and Dabura was compared to Cell plush he has stone spit and other magic.

Dabura wins.
When was that implied? Bojack was the Cell of the movies, there is no reason to be weaker than him. And btw, Dabura wins. I have him a bit weaker than Bojack, but he still win due to his magic.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:38 am

Namek First form Freeza V SSJ Bardock.

(If shit hits the fan Freeza can transform)

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Post by DanielSSJ » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:03 am

Gog wrote:Namek First form Freeza V SSJ Bardock.

(If shit hits the fan Freeza can transform)
As a Super Saiyan, Bardock is at least as strong as First Form Freeza, probably more so if he got a power-up from his near-death experience. If Freeza can't transform, he probably loses to Bardock. However, odds are is that Bardock's power boost wasn't as extreme as the ones Goku and the others were getting by the end of the Freeza Arc. Since I doubt that his strength even doubled, Second Form Freeza shouldn't have too much trouble taking out Bardock, even if he is a Super Saiyan.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:06 am

Fine DanielSSJ if you were capable of effortlessly figuring that out I've got another one for you.

Merged Zamasu V Whis.

The battle of the filthy white hairs

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Post by DanielSSJ » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:56 am

Gog wrote:Fine DanielSSJ if you were capable of effortlessly figuring that out I've got another one for you.

Merged Zamasu V Whis.

The battle of the filthy white hairs
I generally avoid Super match-ups for several reasons, but I would assume that Whis would be strong and skilled enough to be able to find some way of detaining Zamas or otherwise rendering him incapable of fighting even if he's (kinda) immortal. Beerus somehow sealed Old Kaioshin into a sword, so it's not totally out of the question.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by nickzambuto » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:19 am

Saiyans arc Vegetto vs 100% Freeza

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:39 am

nickzambuto wrote:Saiyans arc Vegetto vs 100% Freeza
Freeza rips him apart and eats him. Honestly, this isn't even fair

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Post by nickzambuto » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:09 pm

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nickzambuto wrote:Saiyans arc Vegetto vs 100% Freeza
Freeza rips him apart and eats him. Honestly, this isn't even fair
Well if we go by official power levels and that guide's comments about Potara multiplying battle powers, 8,000 multiplied by 18,000 is 144,000,000, higher than Freeza, and nearly Super Saiyan level already.

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Post by Khin » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:15 pm

nickzambuto wrote:Saiyans arc Vegetto vs 100% Freeza
Freeza tears Vegetto a new one. I don't believe to the incredibly vague ''Vegeta x Goku'' statement in the SEG. Even if the statement is true, that would only apply to Boo Arc Vegetto, where Goku and Vegeta are pretty much the perfect fusion. In the Saiyan arc, their fusion isn't perfect just by Vegeta being more than twice stronger than Goku alone.

Vegetto might have a chance if he's against Freeza's lower forms, especially with the Kaiō-ken in his arsenal, but anything beyond Freeza's initial final form will just be too much for him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:46 pm

Gog wrote:Namek First form Freeza V SSJ Bardock.

(If shit hits the fan Freeza can transform)
I'd say that Frieza would win after a long battle. Bardock would be 10K, multiplied by 50, it would be 500K. He might push Frieza to transform, just like how Vegeta did, so Frieza takes this hard with First Form, but easy with Second Form.
Gog wrote:Fine DanielSSJ if you were capable of effortlessly figuring that out I've got another one for you.

Merged Zamasu V Whis.

The battle of the filthy white hairs
Whis is just on a different level, he would win easily. If it was Beerus, then I'd go for Merged Zamasu.
nickzambuto wrote:Saiyans arc Vegetto vs 100% Freeza
To be fair, we shouldn't believe on the "Goku x Vegeta" multiplier here, it's a terribly high boost. I'd say he'd beat Initial Final Form Frieza (the one who fought Vegeta), but would be instantly one shooted by even 25% Final Form Frieza.

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Post by nickzambuto » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:09 pm

The Vegetto boost can't really be too high IMO, I think it's appropriate for him to just be as stupidly overpowered as possible. It's not like he showed any type of limits, so it can't be too high.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:12 pm

nickzambuto wrote:Saiyans arc Vegetto vs 100% Freeza
Given the power difference between Goku and Vegeta during the Saiyan Arc, I don't think that this Vegetto would get as big a boost as he got during the Boo Arc. Based on my arbitrary formula, Vegetto ends up around 2nd Form Freeza's strength and loses horribly to 100% Freeza.

Note: I don't really take the "Goku X Vegeta" thing literally.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:00 pm

Who is the weakest character who could successfully restrain, eat, and digest candy Vegito?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:33 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Who is the weakest character who could successfully restrain, eat, and digest candy Vegito?
I'd say Raging SSJ2 Vegeta in Super.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:42 pm

nickzambuto wrote:
Gog wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:Saiyans arc Vegetto vs 100% Freeza
Freeza rips him apart and eats him. Honestly, this isn't even fair
Well if we go by official power levels and that guide's comments about Potara multiplying battle powers, 8,000 multiplied by 18,000 is 144,000,000, higher than Freeza, and nearly Super Saiyan level already.
Okay, I'm going to show you a multiplication, that I use for potara.

8K + 18k = 26k x 30 = 790K

Veggeto gets ripped apart by Freeza

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by nickzambuto » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:31 pm

Gog wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:
Gog wrote:
Freeza rips him apart and eats him. Honestly, this isn't even fair
Well if we go by official power levels and that guide's comments about Potara multiplying battle powers, 8,000 multiplied by 18,000 is 144,000,000, higher than Freeza, and nearly Super Saiyan level already.
Okay, I'm going to show you a multiplication, that I use for potara.

8K + 18k = 26k x 30 = 790K

Veggeto gets ripped apart by Freeza
That's completely arbitrary and random though. I'd prefer if we save headcanon for story discussions and stick with just facts for versus debates.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:34 pm

nickzambuto wrote:
Gog wrote:
nickzambuto wrote: Well if we go by official power levels and that guide's comments about Potara multiplying battle powers, 8,000 multiplied by 18,000 is 144,000,000, higher than Freeza, and nearly Super Saiyan level already.
Okay, I'm going to show you a multiplication, that I use for potara.

8K + 18k = 26k x 30 = 790K

Veggeto gets ripped apart by Freeza
That's completely arbitrary and random though. I'd prefer if we save headcanon for story discussions and stick with just facts for versus debates.
Okay, I'm going to use two other sets of multiplications. First off Freeza would still have the slight edge over Veggeto if he was both of Goku's and Vegeta's powers together, and would still win if they didn't use kaio ken.

Fuck forgot the other one

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:28 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Who is the weakest character who could successfully restrain, eat, and digest candy Vegito?
I'd say Raging SSJ2 Vegeta in Super.
But... he'd be eating himself
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:31 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Who is the weakest character who could successfully restrain, eat, and digest candy Vegito?
I'd say Raging SSJ2 Vegeta in Super.
But... he'd be eating himself
Well... he is an alien and with a big appetite. :P

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:31 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Who is the weakest character who could successfully restrain, eat, and digest candy Vegito?
Finial form Freeza ROF, he'd probably enjoy it

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