"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[MyNiggaGoku]

The manga is out. It seems Goku and Vegeta return to the present even though Goku doesn't know how to operate the Time Machine.

Where can I find it?

Never mind I found it

[zamasu121]

Ssj2 trunks managed to hold off ssjr black in the manga

[MyNiggaGoku]

Ssj2 trunks managed to hold off ssjr black in the manga

Yeah he held his own but only for a few moments...He is in big trouble and he will possibly die

[alakazam^]

There are now 6 Time Rings, something Zamasu seems surprised. Does this change anything in the story?

[Will]

There are now 6 Time Rings, something Zamasu seems surprised. Does this change anything in the story?

Just like in the anime Trunks going back in time warning them about Black and thus Beerus killing Zamasu split the timeline and create another time ring.

[zamasu121]

ssj2 trunks holding ssjr black, is the same, if not worse than episode 57. I wonder how many people are gonna mention the fucked up power scaling.

[LightBing]

ssj2 trunks holding ssjr black, is the same, if not worse than episode 57. I wonder how many people are gonna mention the fucked up power scaling.

That's ridiculous. He landed a couple of punches to a distracted Black which dealt no damage. It's not comparable in the slightest.

[zamasu121]

ssj2 trunks holding ssjr black, is the same, if not worse than episode 57. I wonder how many people are gonna mention the fucked up power scaling.

That's ridiculous. He landed a couple of punches to a distracted Black which dealt no damage. It's not comparable in the slightest.

Here we go with the manga excuses. Black clearly noticed him when he stabbed zamasu, and he was clearly in pain from trunks punches.

[jplaya2023]

someone needs to tell TOTO he's drawing the hair wrong for ssj and ssj2 for goku and black's forms. Black is suppose to be ssj2 yet is drawn with ssj1 hair. then when he powers up the hair is still wrong/weird same for goku. I'm not sure what he's doing for that.

Also the power scaling is wacky. so black get's healed by zamazu and all of a sudden can destroy ssj blue vegeta? in what world? when black powers up is he ssj rose i can't really tell because he still being drawn with ssj2 sparks in his aura

[LightBing]

Here we go with the manga excuses. Black clearly noticed him when he stabbed zamasu, and he was clearly in pain from trunks punches.

He was still surprised by it, which reduces his reaction time making the scene believable. Anyway that wasn't my problem with what you said, you can dispute the scene still bends logic for it to work, which even if I disagree it's an argument to be discussed.

What I called ridiculous is that you call this even worse than episode 57, an episode where Trunks survived a direct hit Kamehameha from Rosé Black. Couple that with your "manga excuses" and you made your bias clear as day.
So I won't be continuing this conversation.

[zamasu121]

Here we go with the manga excuses. Black clearly noticed him when he stabbed zamasu, and he was clearly in pain from trunks punches.

He was still surprised by it, which reduces his reaction time making the scene believable. Anyway that wasn't my problem with what you said, you can dispute the scene still bends logic for it to work, which even if I disagree it's an argument to be discussed.

What I called ridiculous is that you call this even worse than episode 57, an episode where Trunks survived a direct hit Kamehameha from Rosé Black. Couple that with your "manga excuses" and you made your bias clear as day.
So I won't be continuing this conversation.

The scene in episode 57 is trash power scaling wise, there is no denying that, but if you don't accept the fact that both the manga and the anime are bad power scaling wise, you are the biased one.

[Khin]

Also the power scaling is wacky. so black get's healed by zamazu and all of a sudden can destroy ssj blue vegeta? in what world?

I don't see any problem with it — it's a near-death power up. We already have several instances of said power-ups in the original manga where the boost was massive. Goku becoming 33x stronger in the Freeza arc, for example.

[ekrolo2]

Also the power scaling is wacky. so black get's healed by zamazu and all of a sudden can destroy ssj blue vegeta? in what world?

I don't see any problem with it — it's a near-death power up. We already have several instances of said power-ups in the original manga where the boost was massive. Goku becoming 33x stronger in the Freeza arc, for example.

And those all stopped after Namek, the one that happened after it for Cell didn't even make sense as suicidal damage then healing doesn't yield a Zenkai.

The scene in episode 57 is trash power scaling wise, there is no denying that, but if you don't accept the fact that both the manga and the anime are bad power scaling wise, you are the biased one.

When the manga has Spirit Sword and Super Saiyan Rage Pull show up, then it's as bad as the anime when it comes to powers.

[zamasu121]

Also the power scaling is wacky. so black get's healed by zamazu and all of a sudden can destroy ssj blue vegeta? in what world?

I don't see any problem with it — it's a near-death power up. We already have several instances of said power-ups in the original manga where the boost was massive. Goku becoming 33x stronger in the Freeza arc, for example.

And those all stopped after Namek, the one that happened after it for Cell didn't even make sense as suicidal damage then healing doesn't yield a Zenkai.

The scene in episode 57 is trash power scaling wise, there is no denying that, but if you don't accept the fact that both the manga and the anime are bad power scaling wise, you are the biased one.

When the manga has Spirit Sword and Super Saiyan Rage Pull show up, then it's as bad as the anime when it comes to powers.

If super saiyan rage is not coming next chapter, then prepare for some garbage writing. How the fuck is trunks supposed to escape from black?

[ekrolo2]

If super saiyan rage is not coming next chapter, then prepare for some garbage writing. how the fuck is trunks supposed to escape from black?

Mai's Hax'd flash bang grenades probably.

[Khin]

And those all stopped after Namek, the one that happened after it for Cell didn't even make sense as suicidal damage then healing doesn't yield a Zenkai.

Well, it did stop, but only for our heroes. Trunks speculated in this chapter that it is due to Vegeta's training; The Daizenshuu likewise explained they simply become insufficient after the battle with Freeza with no further explanation why.

Why it still affects Black is I don't know, maybe Zamasu being in Goku's body opens up a lot of his potential. And unlike Vegeta, Black still have a very wide room for improvement hence why near-death power-ups still affects on him. (This could tie with the explanation Trunks gave.) Just my guess, though.

[Grimlock]

If super saiyan rage is not coming next chapter, then prepare for some garbage writing. How the fuck is trunks supposed to escape from black?

I'm pretty sure this part of the manga is when Super Saiyan Rage Trunks is blocking Goku Black and Zamasu in the anime. If I'm turned out to be correct, then Super Saiyan Rage is for the anime, while this "Mastered Super Saiyan 2" is for the manga. Or maybe Goku and Vegeta will run away one more time...

[LightBing]

This chapter might be the last we see of Future Trunks. Toyotarõ said his ending would be different than the anime. I would rather Trunks just died than a cop-out as living in another timeline, just to have a twisted happy ending.

[TheMikado]

ssj2 trunks holding ssjr black, is the same, if not worse than episode 57. I wonder how many people are gonna mention the fucked up power scaling.

That's ridiculous. He landed a couple of punches to a distracted Black which dealt no damage. It's not comparable in the slightest.

Here we go with the manga excuses. Black clearly noticed him when he stabbed zamasu, and he was clearly in pain from trunks punches.

I'll wait until I see the actual manga. I couple of other people said Trunks did basically nothing and then got wrecked which I expected.

[TheMikado]

This chapter might be the last we see of Future Trunks. Toyotarõ said his ending would be different than the anime. I would rather Trunks just died than a cop-out as living in another timeline, just to have a twisted happy ending.

I agree. Him dying but the future being saved would elevate Future Trunks for me and means there's an Earth without saiyans now.