The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragon boss z » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:49 pm

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:
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RedShift wrote:Heres one you don't nomrally see...
Bojack vs Dabura
Bojack seemed to be weaker than Cell, and Dabura was compared to Cell plush he has stone spit and other magic.

Dabura wins.
When was that implied? Bojack was the Cell of the movies, there is no reason to be weaker than him. And btw, Dabura wins. I have him a bit weaker than Bojack, but he still win due to his magic.
Bojack was one shot by ssj2 Gohan. At the very least Bojack was weaker than super perfect Cell.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:50 pm

Guldo V Saiyan Saga Vegeta

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:46 pm

Gog wrote:Guldo V Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Saiyan Saga Vegeta wins. He's much faster than Gohan and Krillin (remember Gohan and Krillin were 14K and 13K, and a Kaioken X2 Goku was 16K, who was loosing poorly to 18K Vegeta), and he knows about Guldo's telekinesis. Chances are that Vegeta would win the match.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:19 am

Gog wrote:Guldo V Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Vegeta's already about two or three times stronger than Ghurd and he knows about his psychic powers. Odds are Vegeta wins without too much trouble.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:33 am

Kibito vs Frieza (Gohan was expecting to be able to fight him in base, so Kibito can't be all that strong)

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Post by Zamasu55 » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:13 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Kibito vs Frieza (Gohan was expecting to be able to fight him in base, so Kibito can't be all that strong)
Frieza easily wins, we had confirmation that the Saiyans in base are below Namek Frieza.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:49 am

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TheUltimateNinja wrote:Kibito vs Frieza (Gohan was expecting to be able to fight him in base, so Kibito can't be all that strong)
Frieza easily wins, we had confirmation that the Saiyans in base are below Namek Frieza.
Man, until now I thought Kibito would at least be close to the androids but apparently he's shit tier.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:07 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Kibito vs Frieza (Gohan was expecting to be able to fight him in base, so Kibito can't be all that strong)
Kibito is apparently around the same level as base form Gohan, and Battle of Gods has confirmed than none of the Saiyans had surpassed him without Super Saiyan (excluding fusions and Ultimate Gohan). Kibito gets stomped into the dirt.
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Man, until now I thought Kibito would at least be close to the androids but apparently he's shit tier.
I don't think being equivalent to Freeza's 50% necessarily qualifies being "shit tier".
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:09 am

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TheUltimateNinja wrote:Man, until now I thought Kibito would at least be close to the androids but apparently he's shit tier.
I don't think being equivalent to Freeza's 50% necessarily qualifies being "shit tier".
It may have been impressive back in the Frieza Arc and maybe in the first part of the Androids Arc, but after that Frieza is a joke in terms of power, all the relevant characters have far surpassed him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:19 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:It may have been impressive back in the Frieza Arc and maybe in the first part of the Androids Arc, but after that Frieza is a joke in terms of power, all the relevant characters have far surpassed him.
Sure, in the context of the higher gods and cosmic entities like Majin Boo, Kibito doesn't amount to much, but he's probably stronger than 99% of the rest of the Universe.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:56 am

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TheUltimateNinja wrote:It may have been impressive back in the Frieza Arc and maybe in the first part of the Androids Arc, but after that Frieza is a joke in terms of power, all the relevant characters have far surpassed him.
Sure, in the context of the higher gods and cosmic entities like Majin Boo, Kibito doesn't amount to much, but he's probably stronger than 99% of the rest of the Universe.
Even Yamcha is stronger than 99% of the universe, and you could probably add a lot more 9s. Once you get past a few thousand you're already in the top tier. The Ginyu force who were only around 40,000 were considered the most elite in the universe besides freaks of nature like Frieza and his family and certain supernatural entities.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:33 pm

Android Vegeta vs SS2 goku buu arc..
Basically Vegeta being an Android instead of the majin form..
His power increase is the same as when he got majin form
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Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:03 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:Android Vegeta vs SS2 goku buu arc..
Basically Vegeta being an Android instead of the majin form..
His power increase is the same as when he got majin form
So this is essentially Majin Vegeta with no stamina loss? The two were dead even during their fight, so if Vegeta got something as useful as never ending stamina, that would push the odds heavily in Vegeta's favour. Vegeta wins six times out of ten.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:15 pm

Tien V Krillin.

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Post by The gr » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:17 pm

Manga hit vs golden frieza with killing technique
    -base goku Buu saga vs 100 ℅ frieza namek saga
      -yakon and pui pui vs Goten and trunks no fusion
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        Post by Gog » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:19 pm

        The gr wrote:Manga hit vs golden frieza with killing technique
          -base goku Buu saga vs 100 ℅ frieza namek saga
            -yakon and pui pui vs Goten and trunks no fusion
              1. Hit doesn't know where Freeza's heart is. Freeza shreds him.

              2. Goku gets shredded.

              3. Poor Pui Pui, and Yakon

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              Post by The gr » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:20 pm

              Gog wrote:
              The gr wrote:Manga hit vs golden frieza with killing technique
                -base goku Buu saga vs 100 ℅ frieza namek saga
                  -yakon and pui pui vs Goten and trunks no fusion
                    1. Hit doesn't know where Freeza's heart is. Freeza shreds him.
                    he has a thousand killing technique and is hard to believe frieza will counter the time skip
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                    Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

                    Post by Gog » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:22 pm

                    The gr wrote:
                    Gog wrote:
                    The gr wrote:Manga hit vs golden frieza with killing technique
                      -base goku Buu saga vs 100 ℅ frieza namek saga
                        -yakon and pui pui vs Goten and trunks no fusion
                          1. Hit doesn't know where Freeza's heart is. Freeza shreds him.
                          he has a thousand killing technique and is hard to believe frieza will counter the time skip
                          Where were those thousand killing techniques against Goku? Won't matter if Freeza can't even get damaged

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                          The gr wrote:Manga hit vs golden frieza with killing technique
                            -base goku Buu saga vs 100 ℅ frieza namek saga
                              -yakon and pui pui vs Goten and trunks no fusion
                                1. In the manga, Hit was unable to stop SSj Blue Goku with his time skip. While it's true that U6 Goku is stronger than RoF Goku, I don't think it's by so much that SSj God Goku was stronger than Golden Freeza. I'd say Freeza wins.

                                2. In my personal opinion, Goku kills him with zero difficulty.

                                3. If Goten and Trunks are allowed to use Super Saiyan, then both Pui Pui and Yakon will get obliterated, unless Yakon manages to suck up their auras. Without Super Saiyan, Yakon will slice the two up without much trouble.

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                                The gr wrote:Manga hit vs golden frieza with killing technique
                                  -base goku Buu saga vs 100 ℅ frieza namek saga
                                    -yakon and pui pui vs Goten and trunks no fusion
                                      1. I don't know, but I think I'll go with Frieza after a long battle.

                                      2. If we use the 50 times multiplier, Frieza takes it.
                                      If we use what they've given to us in the Buu Saga (kilis, Piccolo, Gotenks), then Goku takes it.

                                      3. Like the previous one, if Yakon is 800 in proportion to Goku's 3000, then Goten and Trunks would lose to Yakon. But if we use the 50 multiplier, then Goten and Trunks easily kill them.

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