Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Most people hate Yamamuro's designs thinking that this is the reason the show has off model moments (which it isnt).

Literally no one thinks that. We don't like Yamamuro's designs because they're okay at best, but also because they're unfriendly to the animators.

[SaiyanGod117]

Now that I think about it, did any veteran animator actually say his character design's aren't animator friendly. Or did the people just come up with that themselves, because you guys always talk about his designs being too simple and simplicity is post to be animation friendly. I will admit his designs now are a major downgrade of what came before.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Now that I think about it, did any veteran animator actually say his character design's aren't animator friendly.

We don't have to here it from them, it's obvious by the state of the episodes, but also just by using common sense. Yamamuro's sheets leave little room for the animators to express their own styles, and since Yamamuro's style itself is boring, it results in a bland looking show.

you guys always talk about his designs being too simple and simplicity is post to be animation friendly

No one who knows what they're talking about calls Yamamuro's designs too simple. Quite the opposite, he packs too much lighting and line work in without the talent to back it up.

[Ajay]

Now that I think about it, did any veteran animator actually say his character design's aren't animator friendly. Or did the people just come up with that themselves, because you guys always talk about his designs being too simple and simplicity is post to be animation friendly. I will admit his designs now are a major downgrade of what came before.

That stuff is just common-sense, really. The more mechanical and stiff the designs, the less they lend themselves towards movement.

As for the quality of the designs, we've had the likes of Hisashi Eguchi and Masaki Sato make negative comments about them.

[JulieYBM]

Now that I think about it, did any veteran animator actually say his character design's aren't animator friendly. Or did the people just come up with that themselves, because you guys always talk about his designs being too simple and simplicity is post to be animation friendly. I will admit his designs now are a major downgrade of what came before.

That stuff is just common-sense, really. The more mechanical and stiff the designs, the less they lend themselves towards movement.

As for the quality of the designs, we've had the likes of Hisashi Eguchi and Masaki Sato make negative comments about them.

And Kameda Yoshimichi mentioned on Twitter how he wished they would bring back Maeda Minoru. Kameda is basically the face of young animators, so his words are going to attract attention.

[Shreyas_Singh]

So,no leaked image for ep 76 preview yet?

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Now that I think about it, did any veteran animator actually say his character design's aren't animator friendly. Or did the people just come up with that themselves, because you guys always talk about his designs being too simple and simplicity is post to be animation friendly. I will admit his designs now are a major downgrade of what came before.

That stuff is just common-sense, really. The more mechanical and stiff the designs, the less they lend themselves towards movement.

As for the quality of the designs, we've had the likes of Hisashi Eguchi and Masaki Sato make negative comments about them.

And Kameda Yoshimichi mentioned on Twitter how he wished they would bring back Maeda Minoru. Kameda is basically the face of young animators, so his words are going to attract attention.

Minoru Maeda's character sheets certainly have simplicity to them and are more animator-friendly, but unless I've missed something important, Maeda's hasn't been in the industry for years now. They could certainly bring back his old model sheets, but due to the influx of new characters due to the infinite cours Super is on, they'd have to find someone within the industry who knows how to make the show look much better. Naoki Tate is a good candidate to replace Yamamuro.

[kinisking]

Now that I think about it, did any veteran animator actually say his character design's aren't animator friendly. Or did the people just come up with that themselves, because you guys always talk about his designs being too simple and simplicity is post to be animation friendly. I will admit his designs now are a major downgrade of what came before.

That stuff is just common-sense, really. The more mechanical and stiff the designs, the less they lend themselves towards movement.

As for the quality of the designs, we've had the likes of Hisashi Eguchi and Masaki Sato make negative comments about them.

Didn't sato just say that it was a different Dragonball than he was used to?That statement isn't inherently negative.

[Bansho64]

Didn't sato just say that it was a different Dragonball than he was used to?That statement isn't inherently negative.

That was a different comment from the Spanish that got translated back in December. This one's from at least a year ago. About a year back, Ajay went into more specifics about what was said.

It's not like this is some Kanzenshuu animation fan exclusive distaste for Yamamuro's work. Two animators from the Z day's have publicly criticised his work. Hisashi Eguchi and Masaki Sato said that he's a "big fish in a small pond, stuck in one franchise, making no progress". Even animators outside of Dragon Ball have gone on record to criticise his work. Yoshimichi Kameda tweeted during the release of Battle of Gods that he hated the look Yamamuro brought to the film.

[JulieYBM]

Didn't sato just say that it was a different Dragonball than he was used to?That statement isn't inherently negative.

That was a different comment from the Spanish that got translated back in December. This one's from at least a year ago. About a year back, Ajay went into more specifics about what was said.

It's not like this is some Kanzenshuu animation fan exclusive distaste for Yamamuro's work. Two animators from the Z day's have publicly criticised his work. Hisashi Eguchi and Masaki Sato said that he's a "big fish in a small pond, stuck in one franchise, making no progress". Even animators outside of Dragon Ball have gone on record to criticise his work. Yoshimichi Kameda tweeted during the release of Battle of Gods that he hated the look Yamamuro brought to the film.

This was, I should add, right after Eguchi learned that Yamamuro had completely changed his key animation, despite being promised that he could do whatever he wanted and even ignore the storyboard.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Here's Kameda's tweets. Someone like Kameda who is a fan of Dragon Ball and an animator who belongs to the club of supremely talented animators expressed disappointment in Yamamuro's designs. As mentioned, Eguchi and Satou also indirectly criticized him. So, Yamamuro isn't just criticized by fans.

[Alee9977]

Didn't sato just say that it was a different Dragonball than he was used to?That statement isn't inherently negative.

That was a different comment from the Spanish that got translated back in December. This one's from at least a year ago. About a year back, Ajay went into more specifics about what was said.

It's not like this is some Kanzenshuu animation fan exclusive distaste for Yamamuro's work. Two animators from the Z day's have publicly criticised his work. Hisashi Eguchi and Masaki Sato said that he's a "big fish in a small pond, stuck in one franchise, making no progress". Even animators outside of Dragon Ball have gone on record to criticise his work. Yoshimichi Kameda tweeted during the release of Battle of Gods that he hated the look Yamamuro brought to the film.

This was, I should add, right after Eguchi learned that Yamamuro had completely changed his key animation, despite being promised that he could do whatever he wanted and even ignore the storyboard.

Well they have a reason to do it, it is like you create a new product but somebody else puts his name on it telling he is the creator. Thankfully we haven't seen anything from Yamamuro since Black Arc's character design, Vegito's character sheet was made by Tsuji and he hasn't done any of the EDs or key animation in any episode, maybe he is finally ready to step aside

[Sodhi]

I don't think absence of Yamamuro means he is ready to step aside. It probably means he is busy doing designs for the next arc or other side projects. Unfortunately I don't think we will have yamamuro free db for a long time.

[iAnimationLover_]

So guys, how about that episode frame leak?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

So guys, how about that episode 1 frame leak?

I'm dumb and don't keep up with things. Explain.

[Sodhi]

Do you mean leak image for #77?. If so, then it may leak before next sunday.

[iAnimationLover_]

So guys, how about that episode 1 frame leak?

I'm dumb and don't keep up with things. Explain.

I didnt word that properly, i meant to ask for the image leak for 76 (Or has it already been shown? And sorry if i got this all wrong xD)


This is an example of what i mean


[spoiler]

Image leak for #75[/spoiler]

[Sodhi]

#76 image has not been leaked yet. I think Fuji tv did not put it in the link yet.

[Nejishiki]

Generally speaking, leaks aren't supposed to happen anyway. So when there's a lack of any early surprises, you should recall that's business as intended instead of "as usual". We're getting spoiled!

[Mazingerdestro]

Most people hate Yamamuro's designs thinking that this is the reason the show has off model moments (which it isnt).

Literally no one thinks that. We don't like Yamamuro's designs because they're okay at best, but also because they're unfriendly to the animators.

Saying "not friendly to the animators" and lead to off model moments it's the same thing. If you can't/don't draw them correctly and it takes you a lot of time then it leads to off model moments. Not that the super staff is following/cares to follow the designs provided 100%. Most people due to schedule are just drawing how they want. Most of the time whOLE episodes are corrected by Shuji as an attempt to look closer to the character designs of Yamamuro.
In terms of esthetics I doubt new character designs would improve anything in the series. We see some of the animators drawing their own interpretations of the characters and nobody stated something spectacular