I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon'sekrolo2 wrote:There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.ABED wrote:Do you mean Namek's core?ekrolo2 wrote:Wasn't the Earth's core dangerous to Goku? I can't imagine an exploding sun is something he could just shrug off.
Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
There is no such thing as Dragon Ball canonicity, especially not in Super. That the show that only cares about pseudo-consistency and pseudo-continuity actually cares about an absolute canoncity is an urban myth.Gog wrote: I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon's
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
B-b-b-but I believe that there's a canon, I still believe....Cetra wrote:There is no such thing as Dragon Ball canonicity, especially not in Super. That the show that only cares about pseudo-consistency and pseudo-continuity actually cares about an absolute canoncity is an urban myth.Gog wrote: I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon's
Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
I won't shit my pants laughing at the absurdity of using canon and Super in the same thought process when someone figures out wtf we're supposed to take as "canon" from that between the movies, show and manga.Gog wrote:I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon'sekrolo2 wrote:There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.ABED wrote: Do you mean Namek's core?
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
No one says you cannot. It is just an important difference.Gog wrote: B-b-b-but I believe that there's a canon, I still believe....
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Its simple, you pick and choose at will... I think I'm the only person still desperately holding onto that phrase still having meaningekrolo2 wrote:I won't shit my pants laughing at the absurdity of using canon and Super in the same thought process when someone figures out wtf we're supposed to take as "canon" from that between the movies, show and manga.Gog wrote:I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon'sekrolo2 wrote: There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.
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Just be aware that this has no impact on what is and that you cannot actually use it while talking to people except for something like "I think".
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Yeah, I knowCetra wrote:Just be aware that this has no impact on what is and that you cannot actually use it while talking to people except for something like "I think".
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Because they would... freeze to death and die?
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
I can't really think of a situation where blowing up the sun would be massively beneficial, and the sun would have a far greater effect than just Earth specifically.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Speaking of "filler", I haven't watched GT but heard Goku say something like "When I'm a SS4, even 6000 degrees won't hurt me" in Xenoverse 2.Gog wrote:I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon'sekrolo2 wrote:There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.ABED wrote: Do you mean Namek's core?
How hot is Earth's core anyways?
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Wasn't that due to the lack of oxygen? Beerus and Whis teleported to him and were pretty chill down there.ekrolo2 wrote:There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.ABED wrote:Do you mean Namek's core?ekrolo2 wrote:Wasn't the Earth's core dangerous to Goku? I can't imagine an exploding sun is something he could just shrug off.
Earth's core should be nothing to Goku at this point in terms of temperature.
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Gt, we speak nothing of it, also that's in Dragon ball Xenoverse 2.DBZ Macky wrote:Speaking of "filler", I haven't watched GT but heard Goku say something like "When I'm a SS4, even 6000 degrees won't hurt me" in Xenoverse 2.Gog wrote:I'm sorry Ekrolo2 your getting your filler's confused, with the canon'sekrolo2 wrote: There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.
How hot is Earth's core anyways?
Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Well, in case anyone missed it, and attempting (probably in vain) to get back on topic here, ABED mentioned on page one that the Vampire Lucifer tried to blow up the sun in Dragonball Movie 2: The Sleeping Princess in Devil's Castle. It was his main ambition, and he even had a megalithic cannon set up to do just that. Just as he prepared to fire, Goku blew the platform out from under him with a Kamehameha. The cannon fell into the pit below, now vertical, and aimed away from the sun, it fired into outer space and subsequently vaporized Lucifer in the process. It really is a cool movie, and one of my favorites.
Question asked and answered, I guess you can go back to your "canon" arguments, even though the "Cannon" in question has been now answered in a bit more detail.
Question asked and answered, I guess you can go back to your "canon" arguments, even though the "Cannon" in question has been now answered in a bit more detail.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Do you not understand the effects of blowing up the moon would have on the Earth?ABED wrote:I still don't see a big difference. Okay, you didn't say that, but the effect of blowing up the moon is competely different than blowing up a sun.Kanassa wrote:I didn't say that, my point was that it's unlikely they' take in to account the effects of blowing up the sun when they never took into account the effects of losing the moon.ABED wrote: You don't need a moon to sustain life. You need a sun.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
It wouldn't be nearly as devastating as losing the source of life in this solar system. My guess is we wouldn't have tides anymore if the moon was gone.Gonstead wrote:Do you not understand the effects of blowing up the moon would have on the Earth?ABED wrote:I still don't see a big difference. Okay, you didn't say that, but the effect of blowing up the moon is competely different than blowing up a sun.Kanassa wrote: I didn't say that, my point was that it's unlikely they' take in to account the effects of blowing up the sun when they never took into account the effects of losing the moon.
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https://www.spaceanswers.com/solar-syst ... -the-moon/ABED wrote:It wouldn't be nearly as devastating as losing the source of life in this solar system. My guess is we wouldn't have tides anymore if the moon was gone.Gonstead wrote:Do you not understand the effects of blowing up the moon would have on the Earth?ABED wrote:I still don't see a big difference. Okay, you didn't say that, but the effect of blowing up the moon is competely different than blowing up a sun.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Seeing as how the Moon has been destroyed in DB not once, but TWICE, and these things didn't happen, your point is null and void.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
THAT is my point.ABED wrote:Seeing as how the Moon has been destroyed in DB not once, but TWICE, and these things didn't happen, your point is null and void.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
I'm confused. What does destroying the moon have to do with the sun? Yes, in real life it would be devastating if either happened, but in fiction, it doesn't have to be. If blowing up the sun is more disasterous, then it is. It's a story, not an astronomy lecture. One does not have anything to do with the other. We're dealing with a world where real life physics has no basis. Characters fall for miles, crash into the ground, and nothing happens to them.Kanassa wrote:THAT is my point.ABED wrote:Seeing as how the Moon has been destroyed in DB not once, but TWICE, and these things didn't happen, your point is null and void.
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