"Dragon Ball Super" Bang Zoom Dub Official Discussion Thread

[noham-el]

Regarding the French dub I'll wait for the uncut airing.

WTF you guys pay 10€/16€ for one channel, That's like legal robbery lol!!! How is show lineup? at least that should justify the price!!!

Oh no, no, French operators are not that sadistic
10/16€ is the "Bouquet", an offer/pack of some channels. But except on the operator "Free", you can't buy a channel by unit unfortunately... And many people are not on "Free"... (and many people are not interested in channels of cartoons, often made for really young kids...)

And Toonami France's lineup is, um... Well, you have Dragon Ball Super... and X-Men Evolution (2000), Justice League (2001), Superman (1996), The Batman (2004), Teen Titans (2003), Ben 10 (2005) and some new things like Iron Man Armored Adventures (2008), Young Justice (2010) and Fantastic Four (2006... But it was rarely broadcast in France...).
In short, unless if you're a nostalgic of DC/Marvel 2000's cartoons, you only pay for Dragon Ball Super as a fan or as a viewer wanting new programs (The new program. in this case).

Impatient to hear Vegeta... Brutal like Christopher Sabat (i hope not) or something else?!

like Christopher Sabat (i hope not)

Well... are we sure that is not Sir Sabat? Incredible impersonator
I prefer Christopher Sabat. I do not like his Vegeta, BUT by principle, we must applaud the original performer of this... tone... not the imitator. I'm disappointed.

I don't like Beerus too... i dunno... why that British/Irish/kinda French forced accent? And... yeah, too flat... I need to see more.
Same with Goku... The light/childish tone is interesting, but... It seems a bit forced. In the EP3 trailer for exemple, he sounds really sad, not very energetic... The complete opposite of Masako Nozawa... The basics are there, It must be worked a little bit more now. (but, this is original! You have all my support, Sir Lex Lang!)

Bulma is good. Whis, good but a bit stiff

(Oh, and the pork was cut. Certainly for religious reasons. Understandable.)

[NitroEX]

Oh dear, Vegeta sounds worse than I was expecting. It's pretty similar to what Sabat is doing, he's even adopted a slight rasp to his voice which makes it all the more grating. I was worried when Kaiji Tang started swooning over Sabat on Twitter and it seems like my worries were made true, he just doesn't seem to be making this role his own and the performance is disappointing as a result. The brief glimpse of his angry Vegeta didn't sound too promising either.

Wendee Lee's Bulma is good as usual, her voice is fitting for an older version of Bulma but I couldn't picture it working for any other version of the character. It just sounds too wise and mature for anything other than a motherly figure. I also noticed that the script for the shopping scenes generally felt worse in the BZ dub, from Trunks exclaiming the bags are "heavy" to the rather awkward exchange between Bulma and Vegeta, it just wasn't written or delivered as naturally as the Funimation scene.

The comedy wasn't handled great here either, the octopus scene felt stilted and the decision to have the crowd chant "old guy" during the celebration was bizarre to say the least.

On the bright side, Trunks' VA still sounds great despite the rigid script weighing her down, Erica Mendez (assuming that's her) is a real pro.

I still much prefer this Beerus (John Demita?) to Jason Douglas, I just think Jason often sounds more like a lazy hobo or thug than a God. That being said, Funimation's script generally does give Beerus superior dialogue which helps Jason's performance greatly, this episode made that very clear. In spite of the script issues though, still love BZ Beerus, it's a great voice.

Whis sounds just as vanilla in both English dubs, I could go with either voice for this character. Ian Sinclair sounds a little bit more masculine but overall there isn't a huge difference.

BZ Elder kai is very high pitched, seems like an irritating voice if I'm honest. I don't understand why they're casting so closely to Funimation's dub. A lower, more natural elderly voice would've been fine.

King kai sounds alright, albeit a little too evil (then again he was yelling...). I'll still take it over Schemmel's King Kai though, that voice has always been terrible.

Overall this is a step down from their first episode but hopefully they get better. The script and direction seem to be the main thing lacking in this dub. The actors involved are certainly talented.

[NintendoBlaze53]

A couple pages back I said Kaiji had a similar voice to Sabat. Guess I was right. This dub is such an oddball. I freaking love Erica Mendez so her work on Trunks alone makes me want to watch this entire thing. But some actors are just......blehhh. I mean it could be A LOT worse.

[NitroEX]

A couple pages back I said Kaiji had a similar voice to Sabat. Guess I was right.

He didn't have to though, he's used a higher pitched voice in the past and he could have done something similar here. Unfortunately he's gone with a deeper approach like Sabat, probably because he's already a fan of Sabat's Vegeta or because the director told him to. Either way, the Funimation influence in this dub is part of the problem in my opinion.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Sigh... Kaiji's Vegeta really isn't doing anything for me. It's just Chris Sabat 2.0, nothing distinctive about it. I don't think it's Kaiji's fault, its the direction he's been given but Vegeta has had far fewer English voices than Goku, I don't know why Bang Zoom didn't try to come up with something unique.

Beerus, Whis, Trunks, and Goku all still sound bland and uninteresting. Again I blame the directors because the voices themselves could have been handled better.

King Kai and Bulma were pretty good though, the former I think could be a suitable alternative to Schemmel's version but I'll wait until I hear more.

Overall, the dub is still a step down from Funimation but I'm grateful we're getting to see it after all.

[Lord Beerus]

I think it's safe to say that Wendee Lee's Bulma fits like a glove. But Kaiji Tang's Vegeta was just... awful. It reminded too much of when Sabat performed Vegeta like he always had as cold and a sore throat. Far too deep and raspy for my liking. I hate to say it but Lanipator does a better job as voicing Vegeta than he does. I've also officially turned on Beerus. I thought that hearing more of his VA change my tune of the voicing of the character, but the faux British/India accent they've given to the character just doesn't work. The more I hear from Whis, the more I don't like it as well. There's just no "oomph" to his voice.

So far, I don't like the voicing of Beerus, Goku and Vegeta. Three of my favourite characters in all of Dragon Ball. I'm sorry but that pretty much makes the dub a dud for me, unless something radically changes.

[8000 Saiyan]

I'm disappointed in Tang's Vegeta since it's just an imitation of Sabat's Z voice.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Yeah, this dub still isn't doing it for me. Kaiji sounded too much like your average Sabat impression and the script is still WAY too literal. I'd expect quality like this from a fan dub, not an official one, this dub is honestly pretty bad. I've tried to give it a chance and some voices like Trunks, Videl, Gohan and Bulma sound fine but when your main characters are horrifically miscast and the director for the dub directs everyone to act as flat as piece of wood, you've really screwed up. Beerus isn't ANYTHING like what his character should be in terms of the script and the voice. People will complain about the tiniest changes for lipflaps in the FUNi dub or little line changes in that dub to not make it 100% literal and sound awkward but as soon as a different dub totally changes how a character IS its fine? I'm sorry but this dub is a dud and I'm not even looking forward to Frieza because, and we've all never really thought of this, it's likely going to be a Linda Young impression rather than an Ayres one. I respect the talent involved but the execution with the dub is awful especially with that horrendous sound mixing

[hulkedoutdude]

Expect the fact that he is trying to sound like sabat's Vegeta his performance isn't bad at all, infact it's very good for guy who is voicing such important character for first time!!! Some guys here are way too much overreacting lol...

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Expect the fact that he is trying to sound like sabat's Vegeta his performance isn't bad at all, infact it's very good for guy who is voicing such important character for first time!!! Some guys here are way too much overreacting lol...

No, people can not like what they don't want to like. We're not sugarcoating it just because it's a new dub. We heard it and most of us don't care for it aside from some voices and that's reality

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I think it's safe to say that Wendee Lee's Bulma fits like a glove. But Kaiji Tang's Vegeta was just... awful. It reminded too much of when Sabat performed Vegeta like he always had as cold and a sore throat. Far too deep and raspy for my liking. I hate to say it but Lanipator does a better job as voicing Vegeta than he does. I've also officially turned on Beerus. I thought that hearing more of his VA change my tune of the voicing of the character, but the faux British/India accent they've given to the character just doesn't work. The more I hear from Whis, the more I don't like it as well. There's just no "oomph" to his voice.

So far, I don't like the voicing of Beerus, Goku and Vegeta. Three of my favourite characters in all of Dragon Ball. I'm sorry but that pretty much makes the dub a dud for me, unless something radically changes.

Yeah Beerus has been an incredible disappointment they cast him on the regal aspect being a God and all but they completely missed the the mark on the actual character and sadly from the promo of the big battle doesn't sound like he changes much, I was also worried when they had Nozawa in that promo instead of Lang, and now I'm even more worried given Lang as been pretty bad thus far. Even Bulma looks like they tried adding an accent of sorts when she says Vegeta after he gets squirted. This dub is sadly a hot mess. So excitement for a second dub just drained away.

Also what was Lang on about saying they weren't trying to imitate FUNi? It was painfully obvious when the clips dropped now there is absolutely no denying it. /;

Expect the fact that he is trying to sound like sabat's Vegeta his performance isn't bad at all, infact it's very good for guy who is voicing such important character for first time!!! Some guys here are way too much overreacting lol...

It's just we have the FUNi dub and it's disappointing we're getting a basically copy version that is inferior too.

[sangofe]

I've recorded the AUDIO of the whole episode connecting the TV to my PC.

Yes, I've pm'd you.

[ConfusedPhantom]

Kaiji Tang is really veering close to a Sabat impression. : ( I hope he improves in the future, because that was really disappointing. Wendee Lee as Bulma is fantastic. Or at least it works for where Bulma's character is in Super. Michael McConnohie as King Kai sound promising. Trunks, Gohan and Videl are very good, too. Whis and Goten have nice voices. But, overall the dub just sounds really, really plain, even the comedy falls kinda flat. It's pretty much on the direction, really. Goku really needs to amp up the energy. It's too laid back and normal. Beerus has a nice voice, but he's not doing anything with his other personality quirks.

[LexVO]

Make sure to have him record all future episodes because I'm interested in hearing the voices for the other characters

they really screwed up the main cast in terms of casting as they just don't sound very good especially Lex Lang as Goku. I respect the man as an actor but his Goku just isn't good, it's nowhere near a Schemmel impersonation either.

Just watch the Funimation dub. PS: you write really shitty posts. How does it feel?

[LexVO]

If we are all just posting our notes, I'll throw mine out.
DB Super Bang Zoom 1
Notes: This script, it's not very good.
Narrator- Sounds like Trunks trying to do a Kyle Hebert impression. Not a fan.
First Impression of Goku- His voice, it's too low. Also, he held back on those yells. I'll come back to him when the episode ends, but for now I'm not a fan unfortunately
Goten- HOLY SHIT SO CUTE FUCKING PERFECT.
Beerus- Sounds more like a Champa to me, and I'm liking it less and less the more I hear it.
Whis- That's similar to the Japanese voice, so I like it a lot.
Hercule- Rager, eat your fucking heart out, this is amazing.
Buu- I actually think I like this more than the Funimation, he sounds more childish.
Gohan : I totally dig it, but I admit I have one hell of a bias, cause I love Kyle Hebert as a person and as Gohan. It's good enough as a replacement, but it isn't as distinct.
Trunks: That is definitely Ryuko, Erica Mendez has a distinct voice, and it shows. It's a good casting choice though, I like it.
Videl: Yes. Just, yes. It's a good fit, and sounds more like Videl than most dubs out there.
Bulma: Wendee Lee knocked it out of the park.
Old dude with Dentures: I know it isn't but that sounds like Sean Schemmel and that made me laugh.
Snake- The true MVP of this dub.
Trunks Again- Satisfying Punching noises and grunts.
Goku Final- Lex takes me out of the immersion, I'll give it another episode, but I dunno. Also, if you wanna talk about Super-Hero Goku, this script makes him that. "Love-Ya Both" is not something Goku would say.
Chi-Chi: It works.
Master Roshi- I'm not sure what it is about it, but I hate it.

Final Conclusion: Perhaps with time and experience this dub could be good, but with the Funimation dub rolling along with it time is something it doesn't have. Regardless of Super's over-acting problem in Funi's Dub, we know that once that cast settles back in to the groove we will almost definitely see this dub end.

do you live in southeast Asia or India?

[LexVO]

Just watched the dub and I though it pretty decent.

Pros:
- Goten sounded excellent. I mean, I think this may the best English VA of Goten we've had yet.
- Michelle sounded alright. Not better or Cynthia Cranz.
- Whis was pretty good. Although, I prefer Ian Sinclair's Whis.
- Videl sounds alright. No better or worse than Kara Edwards.
- Gohan's VA is without a doubt the highlight so far. So age appropriate and just wonderful to listen to. I think it may be as good as Kyle Hebert's rendition of the character, but we'll have to wait and see how things pan out.
- Trunks was very good. It had great mixture of youth and maturity.
- Bulma sounded very promising. I hope Wendee Lee can nail the range of the character, but she's a very talented VA so I think she can pull it off.
- Kaioshin sounded alright from what I've hard so far. So that's good.

Cons:
- Lex Lang's Goku is just not good. Like... at all. The guy tries his best to capture the man-child like mannerisms of Goku, which Schemmel has nailed over the years, but just comes across as quite half arsed. Just a horrible miscast.
- The narrator was awful. I mean, good God. Talk about phoning it and half arsing it. Without a shadow of the doubt the weakest link in the whole dub.
- Majin Boo sound terrible. But Josh Martin never set the bar high, either.
- Not a an of Mr Satan. Just sound like Rager's rendition of the character but lest hammy. And I adore Mr Satan when he's hamming it up. But there are some instances where it sound passable, so I'd say there is room for improvement as episodes go by.
- Roshi didn't sound all that promising.
- Beerus. Oh man, am I conflicted on this one. I don't know how to pinpoint this voice. It sound a bit too British and regal for my liking, but it also manages to also get a decent scope of how deep and menacing Beerus should sound, especially considering how Beerus sound when Yamadera voices him. I got some major vibes of Adam Croasdell's rendition of Ignis from Final Fantasy XV when listening to Beerus. I need to hear more of it to come to a proper conclusion, but I'm a huge fan of what I heard so far and I feel Jason Douglas did the voicing of the character more justice.

Overall, a pretty mixed bag so far, but there is definitely room for improvement.

Love you, too!!

[hulkedoutdude]

Make sure to have him record all future episodes because I'm interested in hearing the voices for the other characters

they really screwed up the main cast in terms of casting as they just don't sound very good especially Lex Lang as Goku. I respect the man as an actor but his Goku just isn't good, it's nowhere near a Schemmel impersonation either.

Just watch the Funimation dub. PS: you write really shitty posts. How does it feel?

You know the drill Mr.Lang...

This is pretty much cons of dubbing popular series especially when 2 or more companies are involved at same time (especially if one is already popular) lol...

I am pretty damn sure people reacted same way when current Funimation cast started out and before that too, personally think apart from all the comparisons you guys are doing awesome job, not going to lie there is some room for improvement and I know this is not last episode you guys would be dubbing, so keep it up!! Looking forward for new episodes...

[DB_Fan1991]

Lex, unlike some people here I am liking your Goku. It sounds different than both Masako Nozawa & Sean Schemmel. It has this aww shucks tone which fits Goku perfectly. Cannot wait to hear you in the later episodes.

[Dbzfan94]

Goten was so cute!... kinda girly sometimes, but in view of the original JP voice, it's not a bad thing. (and between a +-girly, but cute voice and Stephanie Nadolny... well ).

Nadolny isnt the voice of Goten.

[8000 Saiyan]

Make sure to have him record all future episodes because I'm interested in hearing the voices for the other characters

they really screwed up the main cast in terms of casting as they just don't sound very good especially Lex Lang as Goku. I respect the man as an actor but his Goku just isn't good, it's nowhere near a Schemmel impersonation either.

Just watch the Funimation dub. PS: you write really shitty posts. How does it feel?

Is it really necessary for you to insult the people who don't like your performance, Lex? I expected better from you. Let me ask you something. Were there any other actors who auditioned for Goku?