Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[Shreyas_Singh]

Wow ,interesting observations as always. Maybe Tate is the animation supervisor for the OP and that Cabbe and Frost transformations could be Ken Otsuka.

[Mazingerdestro]

BTW: Ajay, where did you get that HD screenshots of the Trailer?

Sorry to butt in but I saw the teaser in HD on facebook around 7 hours ago. There is an HD version. Check youtube.

[Gashif Aldi]

BTW: Ajay, where did you get that HD screenshots of the Trailer?

Sorry to butt in but I saw the teaser in HD on facebook around 7 hours ago. There is an HD version. Check youtube.

Got it. Now I can see that gorgeous Tate. Thanks.

[Wezenheim]

Some cool hand painted BGs in #75. Good stuff!

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Who was in charge of the backgrounds? I love the first one for the atmosphere it creates, the second for being full of life and the third has some smart use of lighting and it feels rich. Credit to the director there for his understanding of lighting.

It's quite good and since most of the series has been bland as hell it feels even better. I highly doubt the Universe survival stuff will have anywhere near as good as BGs as this episode or #71. I'll be more than happy to be wrong though.

On a side note, Shida returned to PreCure and did some cool shit in the latest episode. Here's hoping he'll do just as good work in the Super OP.

Miyuki Sato was credited as the art director. Coincidently, she was also the AD of the fantastic episode 71. She's fantastic, and she's competing with Bun-sun Lee for my favorite regular art director on Super right now.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Miyuki Sato was credited as the art director. Coincidently, she was also the AD of the fantastic episode 71. She's fantastic, and she's competing with Bun-sun Lee for my favorite regular art director on Super right now.

Thank you! No wonder why this episode had good backgrounds. She did good stuff for #71 as well. I want to see more of her.

If I remember correctly, Bun-sun Lee is the episode #13 guy? I maybe wrong, but #13 had some nice space BGs on display during the Beers Gokuu fight.

[Wezenheim]

Miyuki Sato was credited as the art director. Coincidently, she was also the AD of the fantastic episode 71. She's fantastic, and she's competing with Bun-sun Lee for my favorite regular art director on Super right now.

Thank you! No wonder why this episode had good backgrounds. She did good stuff for #71 as well. I want to see more of her.

If I remember correctly, Bun-sun Lee is the episode #13 guy? I maybe wrong, but #13 had some nice space BGs on display during the Beers Gokuu fight.

Bun-sun Lee is indeed the episode 13 guy! He was also AD for #50, which is another great one.

[Psykomatik]

Bun-sun Lee is by far the best to me.
I believe the worst AD Super has are Sei’ichiro Sugiura & Shinji Saito...

[iAnimationLover_]

i dont think so. why would that specific style appear on episodes under Itai's supervision? i could he completely off though. correct me if I'm wrong

Alright then my bad xd

Because Higashide happened to work on that episode and Ide was a CAD on the other.

You've posted two different styles. You will find the third on literally every episode Ide has been CAD for.

Higashide's style can be found everywhere. Rewatch #69 and you'll find similar stuff in the short section he did. It's easy to tell it's him in what you've posted based on the smoke effects.


If you're curious about Itai himself, I actually posted a giant image showcasing my guess a few pages back.

I know that it was Higashide, but those close-ups stood out a lil bit for me (now that I look at the third one, it really is Ide xD) I already saw your Itai guess, I even replied to it

At least I tried

i thought I hit the jack pot for a minute there..

[dhaval_dongre]

With Yammamuro being apparently gone for quite a while now, with no contribution to Vegetto's design, no key animation in the Trunks arc (since he did pop up here and there in all the previous ones), no apparent corrections to the new intro and no contribution to the last two EDs, do you think it's possible he might doing some solo episodes in the new arc in order to buy even more time to for the production? Nothing really fancy, but just some on-model episodes with at best a few moments of animation. I mean, other than that or him being sick, I can't imagine why he would be kept away from pretty much everything that's been going on. As much as I dislike his work, we know he is in good terms with the people at Toei, so I can't imagine they would just get rid of him outright, so he must still be there in some capacity. Not to mention that if we are supposed to get on model art, I would take his own, rather than that of his copycats. Phasing his designs out slowly is very good, but if he's there he should be taken advantage of.

I feel that he might be on his way out. That OP doesn't have any Yamamuro traits, moreover there is such a drastic difference between the first OP and this one. We haven't seen him work directly on Super after #39, even the Vegito design wasn't his own, plus in the promotional image for the FT arc finale he even drew Trunks sword wrong. This whole scenario regarding him has been really, really confusing, tbh.

Update: Also happy that Miuma Kenji is a regular now !!

[Mazingerdestro]

With Yammamuro being apparently gone for quite a while now, with no contribution to Vegetto's design, no key animation in the Trunks arc (since he did pop up here and there in all the previous ones), no apparent corrections to the new intro and no contribution to the last two EDs, do you think it's possible he might doing some solo episodes in the new arc in order to buy even more time to for the production? Nothing really fancy, but just some on-model episodes with at best a few moments of animation. I mean, other than that or him being sick, I can't imagine why he would be kept away from pretty much everything that's been going on. As much as I dislike his work, we know he is in good terms with the people at Toei, so I can't imagine they would just get rid of him outright, so he must still be there in some capacity. Not to mention that if we are supposed to get on model art, I would take his own, rather than that of his copycats. Phasing his designs out slowly is very good, but if he's there he should be taken advantage of.

I feel that he might be on his way out. That OP doesn't have any Yamamuro traits, moreover there is such a drastic difference between the first OP and this one. We haven't seen him work directly on Super after #39, even the Vegito design wasn't his own, plus in the promotional image for the FT arc finale he even drew Trunks sword wrong. This whole scenario regarding him has been really, really confusing, tbh.

Update: Also happy that Miuma Kenji is a regular now !!

I think Ajay stated that he corrected some of the dragonball heroes openings. I doubt he is gone but he is surely doing some side jobs regarding the series. If he was gone I am pretty sure that they were gonna stated somewhere. Him been silent maybe implies that is working on something else or he out of commission (maybe he is sick)

[kinisking]

I think I just realized why I was super unimpressed with the Gohan vs Goku fight compared to everyone else. I had watched broly second coming (ironic considering the news) the same day. Shouldn't have done that.

[iAnimationLover_]

I think I just realized why I was super unimpressed with the Gohan vs Goku fight compared to everyone else. I had watched broly second coming (ironic considering the news) the same day. Shouldn't have done that.

Ya dun goof'd.

.. Ya shouldnt'a did that.



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Update: Also happy that Miuma Kenji is a regular now !!

I think Ajay stated that he corrected some of the dragonball heroes openings. I doubt he is gone but he is surely doing some side jobs regarding the series. If he was gone I am pretty sure that they were gonna stated somewhere. Him been silent maybe implies that is working on something else or he out of commission (maybe he is sick)

When? where?

[dhaval_dongre]

I think Ajay stated that he corrected some of the dragonball heroes openings. I doubt he is gone but he is surely doing some side jobs regarding the series. If he was gone I am pretty sure that they were gonna stated somewhere. Him been silent maybe implies that is working on something else or he out of commission (maybe he is sick)

He is the main guy but only on paper now. Granted he did the character designs for 69 but still he has been mainly absent from the show. It really is shocking when the head of the show is missing for such a long time. Its not that he is seriously ill. He was the AD for Xenoverse 2. If he was very ill, he would not have been given that position. But his absence has really helped others work shine through. Compare Tate's and Manabe's work from the BoG anime arc and the FT arc, there's such a noticeable difference. Mainly Tsuji and Takeo Ide to a certain extent are handling things as of now. I like Tsuji though. She does a lot of important corrections but also lets the important staff do their own work. 72 was such a good example. She did some important corrections in that episode but she didn't overcorrect Tate's work, not even the wonky ones. I really liked what we saw of the new OP, Tate's work really shines through, unlike the first OP. Even Shida's Vegito was pretty original. It didn't resemble the OG character design. Shida's BoG cut in the movie was overcorrected by Yamamuro, but that wasn't the case when it came to Shida's cuts in 57 and 66, primarily because Yamamuro has been missing from this series.
Sorry for the huge reply, I really can't help it when the topic is about Yamamuro.

[ArchedThunder]

How do people feel about Yamamuro's corrections in the new OP? They don't seem as horrific as usual to me, but maybe I'm just wowed by the movement. The fact that we can even spot Tate in there says something though, doesn't it?

[Lord Beerus]

How do people feel about Yamamuro's corrections in the new OP? They don't seem as horrific as usual to me, but maybe I'm just wowed by the movement. The fact that we can even spot Tate in there says something though, doesn't it?

Was is confirmed that Yamamuro did some corrections in the new OP? Or did the eagle eyes of our Dragon Ball animation experts catch something I missed?

[dhaval_dongre]

How do people feel about Yamamuro's corrections in the new OP? They don't seem as horrific as usual to me, but maybe I'm just wowed by the movement. The fact that we can even spot Tate in there says something though, doesn't it?

Was is confirmed that Yamamuro did some corrections in the new OP? Or did the eagle eyes of our Dragon Ball animations catch something I missed?

Same here. But I am not an expert at it though.

[ArchedThunder]

How do people feel about Yamamuro's corrections in the new OP? They don't seem as horrific as usual to me, but maybe I'm just wowed by the movement. The fact that we can even spot Tate in there says something though, doesn't it?

Was is confirmed that Yamamuro did some corrections in the new OP? Or did the eagle eyes of our Dragon Ball animations catch something I missed?

Pretty sure that the second frame here is a full Yamamuro correction.
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And Vegeta vs that large woman looks Yamamuro corrected.

[dhaval_dongre]

How do people feel about Yamamuro's corrections in the new OP? They don't seem as horrific as usual to me, but maybe I'm just wowed by the movement. The fact that we can even spot Tate in there says something though, doesn't it?

Was is confirmed that Yamamuro did some corrections in the new OP? Or did the eagle eyes of our Dragon Ball animations catch something I missed?

Pretty sure that the second frame here is a full Yamamuro correction.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
And Vegeta vs that large woman looks Yamamuro corrected.

If that's Yamamuro, then I am surprised. What about Tsuji ? It can be her too right ? Also her corrections are pretty similar, they don't overshadow the animator's work usually.

[Alee9977]

How do people feel about Yamamuro's corrections in the new OP? They don't seem as horrific as usual to me, but maybe I'm just wowed by the movement. The fact that we can even spot Tate in there says something though, doesn't it?

Was is confirmed that Yamamuro did some corrections in the new OP? Or did the eagle eyes of our Dragon Ball animations catch something I missed?

Pretty sure that the second frame here is a full Yamamuro correction.
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And Vegeta vs that large woman looks Yamamuro corrected.

Too many facial expressions to be Yamamuro...

[Ajay]

I suppose I jumped the gun a bit saying Yamamuro so definitively.

There are definitely shots that look particularly on-model, but that's about as far as it goes. Some of the later stuff is on-model, but definitely not 'perfect' like your typical Yamamuro correction. I think what throws me off is that Tate's Grand Priest is left untouched; it's not on screen for particularly long before it's covered up by the effects, but it's definitely not in line with the rest of the OP's visuals -- it seems like the type of thing Yamamuro would correct.

I wonder if it's supervised by someone we wouldn't expect, and the inconsistencies we're seeing are just a result of 2nd key animators?

I'm not seeing any Tsuji so I probably wouldn't have her name on the table. I dunno, really. My rule lately has been not to overthink things, which is why I jumped straight to Yamamuro. We'll see!