Why isn't Zamasu in Episode 75/76?

[Merged Zamasu]

I figured i'd make a thread just to discuss this, because it's pretty disappointing to be honest, and there's no valid reason not to have Zamasu (or Black) in that forest.

The main counter argument you could use is that Goku himself did not defeat Zamasu, but then again, why is Cell in that forest then? He was defeated by Gohan, not by Goku. Furthermore, aren't Goku and Krillin supposed to overcome their fears by facing their old enemies in that forest? Zamasu did quite a lot of awful things to Goku and even went as far as to steal his own body. Besides, Zamasu really deserved a little more screentime. Zamasu appeared for about 20 episodes, which is a mediocre amount of screentime. Meanwhile, Freeza came back for like the third time. They put Vegeta in that forest, obviously because he had been a great foe of Goku, so why not put Zamasu as well? What Vegeta has done to Goku doesn't even come close to what Zamasu did to him.

The impression i got from these filler episodes is that the writers have completely forgotten about Zamasu. He is not even mentioned for a moment, and that's just annoying for someone like me who really likes Zamasu. They brought back villains from Dragon Ball. They brought back villains from DBZ. They brought back one of the villains of Super (Freeza). Next arc, they'll basically make Female Broly. But how dare they give Zamasu a brief cameo in a filler episode.

I am sure everyone would have preferred Black/Merged Zamasu instead of Nappa.

[successoroffate]

I'll tell you why I think there's no Zamasu. The place where Goku and Kuririn are right now, I don't know if you noticed that the atmosphere changed once Kuririn set foot in. Well, I think those phantoms, holograms or whatever represent fears (current and past probably) that Kuririn subconsciously has. In other words, previous enemies including those who he directly interacted with and two of them in particular ended Kuririn's life. Zamasu doesn't fit anywhere in Kuririn's subconscious and does not represent a fear.
This is a test for Kuririn, not for Goku.

[Ki Breaker]

I'll tell you why I think there's no Zamasu. The place where Goku and Kuririn are right now, I don't know if you noticed that the atmosphere changed once Kuririn set foot in. Well, I think those phantoms, holograms or whatever represent fears (current and past probably) that Kuririn subconsciously has. In other words, previous enemies. Including those who he directly interacted with and two of them in particular ended Kuririn's life. Zamasu doesn't fit anywhere in Kuririn's subconscious and does not represent a fear.
This is a test for Kuririn, not for Goku.

Goku is actually excited to see them, the one scared is Krillin.. it does make sense..
Goku dosen't fear anything it seems, good on you goku

[successoroffate]

I'll tell you why I think there's no Zamasu. The place where Goku and Kuririn are right now, I don't know if you noticed that the atmosphere changed once Kuririn set foot in. Well, I think those phantoms, holograms or whatever represent fears (current and past probably) that Kuririn subconsciously has. In other words, previous enemies. Including those who he directly interacted with and two of them in particular ended Kuririn's life. Zamasu doesn't fit anywhere in Kuririn's subconscious and does not represent a fear.
This is a test for Kuririn, not for Goku.

Goku is actually excited to see them, the one scared is Krillin.. it does make sense..
Goku dosen't fear anything it seems, good on you goku

wow, your profile avatar is going places...fast.

[Ki Breaker]

I'll tell you why I think there's no Zamasu. The place where Goku and Kuririn are right now, I don't know if you noticed that the atmosphere changed once Kuririn set foot in. Well, I think those phantoms, holograms or whatever represent fears (current and past probably) that Kuririn subconsciously has. In other words, previous enemies. Including those who he directly interacted with and two of them in particular ended Kuririn's life. Zamasu doesn't fit anywhere in Kuririn's subconscious and does not represent a fear.
This is a test for Kuririn, not for Goku.

Goku is actually excited to see them, the one scared is Krillin.. it does make sense..
Goku dosen't fear anything it seems, good on you goku

wow, your profile avatar is going places...fast.

Well, now that broly with boobs is canon, why not

[TheMathemagician]

Didn't Kuririn step on that weird water which I thought was a reflection of Kuririn's fears from past opponents. All of these past opponents have some connection to Kuririn, as opposed to Zamasu.

[Merged Zamasu]

I'll tell you why I think there's no Zamasu. The place where Goku and Kuririn are right now, I don't know if you noticed that the atmosphere changed once Kuririn set foot in. Well, I think those phantoms, holograms or whatever represent fears (current and past probably) that Kuririn subconsciously has. In other words, previous enemies including those who he directly interacted with and two of them in particular ended Kuririn's life. Zamasu doesn't fit anywhere in Kuririn's subconscious and does not represent a fear.
This is a test for Kuririn, not for Goku.

Technically, wasn't Krllin scared by Black Goku, and later on by Merged Zamasu?

I remember that Krillin was very scared when Black first came to Present Earth. Later on in the arc, Krillin was also worried by Merged Zamasu's power, which was able to reach the Present timeline as well. Krillin did have a few interactions with Zamasu, and he was clearly terrified by what Zamasu had become in Ep.67.

[dbgtFO]

Didn't Kuririn step on that weird water which I thought was a reflection of Kuririn's fears from past opponents. All of these past opponents have some connection to Kuririn, as opposed to Zamasu.

That could be an interesting take, showing Goku not fearing anyone and Krillin rightly fearing all those guys as they each did something bad to him.
He never interacted wit Zamasu after all, so it makes sense and it also makes that it is Super Buu, instead of Kid Buu (unless the art was off) as he got turned into chocolate by the former and only interacted with the latter in filler.
Obviously though we just had an arc with Zamasu, it makes sense not to include so soon after.

[Lord Frieza]

Because only Goku met him and he's not afraid of Zamasu.

All these guy are here because both Goku and Kuririn met them and fear them at some point. I say that because Kuririn never met King Piccolo so he must be generated solely by Goku.

[Merged Zamasu]

He never interacted wit Zamasu after all,

I mean, you don't really have to interact with a character to fear said character. None of those worthless Earthlings from Trunks' timeline directly interacted with Merged Zamasu, yet they clearly feared him.

Obviously though we just had an arc with Zamasu, it makes sense not to include so soon after.

Absolutely, but i wasn't asking for like an entire episode dedicated to Zamasu. I simply wanted Zamasu to make a cameo for something like 5/10 minutes, that's all.

Characters in the series still mentioned Freeza, Cell and Buu years after their defeat, yet it seems everyone has forgotten about Zamasu, which is just...disappointing to say the least.

Because only Goku met him and he's not afraid of Zamasu.

You sure about that? Ah, i could see the fear in Goku's eyes when he was overpowered by Merged Zamasu's ultimate form.

[TheMathemagician]

Because only Goku met him and he's not afraid of Zamasu.

All these guy are here because both Goku and Kuririn met them and fear them at some point. I say that because Kuririn never met King Piccolo so he must be generated solely by Goku.

But Goku never feared most if at all any of these guys. Goku did have a lot of hatred for Piccolo Daimao though, as he is pretty much the cause for Kuririn's death (not directly but you know what I mean).

[Chuquita]

My answer is the boring "they're mining nostalgia again" one and that Zamasu isn't there (Nor Gokû Black) because they're from Super and not the original DB or Z.

[successoroffate]

My answer is the boring "they're mining nostalgia again" one and that Zamasu isn't there (Nor Gokû Black) because they're from Super and not the original DB or Z.

That also explains why Freeza is not in his Golden Form.

[successoroffate]

Goku is actually excited to see them, the one scared is Krillin.. it does make sense..
Goku dosen't fear anything it seems, good on you goku

wow, your profile avatar is going places...fast.

Well, now that broly with boobs is canon, why not

Yeah, but it's kinda spoilery....don't you think?

[Ki Breaker]

wow, your profile avatar is going places...fast.

Well, now that broly with boobs is canon, why not

Yeah, but it's kinda spoilery....don't you think?

Oh boy, did you not see today's episode?
Since you commented in a thread about episode 75 and 76, I assumed you saw the whole episode with preview

[successoroffate]

Well, now that broly with boobs is canon, why not

Yeah, but it's kinda spoilery....don't you think?

Oh boy, did you not see today's episode?
Since you commented in a thread about episode 75 and 76, I assumed you saw the whole episode with preview

Oh, yeah not for me...I meant "others"

[sintzu]

Maybe it's because he's not dead.

[Ki Breaker]

Maybe it's because he's not dead.

Dude, please don't say this, otherwise "you know who" will come out of the woodwork again..
And that really isn't the case, buu is there, buu has already been reincarnated, so them being alive isn't the issue here

[Akyon]

He never interacted wit Zamasu after all,

I mean, you don't really have to interact with a character to fear said character. None of those worthless Earthlings from Trunks' timeline directly interacted with Merged Zamasu, yet they clearly feared him.

True, but Zamasu never really affected Krillin's life at all, as he was in another dimension for most the arc destroying some alternative Earth and killing the loved ones of THOSE Earthlings. Krillin clearly doesn't fear 17(or 18) either despite the android killing him in that dimension. Didn't happen to HIM as such, just an alternative Krillin.

Krillin only really saw Zamasu's face in the sky, and frankly after all the shit Krillin's seen through his messed up life, you have to do better than just be a creepy face to make an impact on him.

King Piccolo however is the one that throws me off. If you removed him, these were all the people who caused him the most trauma. He never actually met King Piccolo so it's a bit weird he showed up instead of Raditz or someone else like Zarbon, Dodoria, Gero, 19, Dabura or the Cell Jrs.

[sintzu]

Maybe it's because he's not dead.

Dude, please don't say this, otherwise "you know who" will come out of the woodwork again..
And that really isn't the case, buu is there, buu has already been reincarnated, so them being alive isn't the issue here

It's probably just a classic villains reunion which would explain why he isn't there.

Keep in mind that this show is always bringing fan favorites back so if he's popular enough then we could end up seeing him again.