"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by KinguKurimuzon » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:40 am

Grimlock wrote:Characters from Dragon Ball Heroes? No. Characters from Dragon Ball Fusions? No.
Why do you assume that? You've got SSJ3 Bardock and DBO characters in XV2, and there's Fusions characters in Dokkan battle. Heck, even Fusions has Budokai 2 Tiencha, weird crossover stuff like that happens all the time.
Grimlock wrote:I don't understand the complaining, as it is the most reasonable route to distribute the characters the way they're doing it.
Because these DLC packs don't have enough content to justify their price. The first DLC alone costs a sixth of the base game's price. The base game has sixty-eight characters, and the DLC pack has two, which is a whopping thirty-fourth of XV2's characters, and there's even more attacks and parallel quests than that. Now I'm not saying it should be worth little more than a dollar, that's a bit ridiculous, but eight dollars for half a set of content is absurd. If both U6 DLCs were in the same pack, I'd say it might be worth closer to five, maybe six dollars, but not eight. Compare to games like New Vegas and Saints Row 4 where you can buy multiple full missions in one pack for little more than five dollars. Though I'll admit, XV2's DLC is a little better than XV1's, only because those ones cost ten dollars for the same amount of content.
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Post by Grimlock » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:43 am

TekTheNinja wrote:I mean why not? Those characters would be awesome. Maybe DBO characters too. Possibly an original DB pack since the fact we don't even have DB Goku is fucking stupid.
Only Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Online characters have a chance to be added, but we know this isn't gonna happen. The DLCs are already mostly set by now, pack 3 will have Zamasu and Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black and pack 4 will have Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan with the probable Merged Zamasu. Maybe they surprise us with the free DLCs by adding more variations like Hit and Goku or even new characters but I wouldn't put my hopes too high.
KinguKurimuzon wrote:Why do you assume that? You've got SSJ3 Bardock and DBO characters in XV2, and there's Fusions characters in Dokkan battle. Heck, even Fusions has Budokai 2 Tiencha, weird crossover stuff like that happens all the time.
Dragon Ball Heroes: Because identity. They said they want to make Xenoverse to have its own and Super Saiyan 3 Bardock doesn't harm that. He was given a proper context to be there. A person who doesn't know about Dragon Ball Heroes would be okay with him there, but no one would be okay if a Baby Hatchiyack appears out of nowhere. Also, Super Saiyan 3 Bardock is the only one from Heroes, for a game to lose its identity, it'll take more than one for that to happen.

Dragon Ball Fusions: One single character from there would harm Xenoverse's identity. I don't really need to say much but c'mon... Fusions characters simply don't work in Xenoverse lore. Dokkan Battle is an empty game, I mean... I don't know if I can put it better but Dokkan Battle is a totally different matter, it doesn't have its own atmosphere, it's a plain game... Thus characters from other games to appear there would be "natural". Many characters from other games appearing in Xenoverse wouldn't feel so natural. I hope you get my point.

Xenoverse doesn't have any characters from Dragon Ball Online aside from Mira, Towa and Time Breaker Bardock.

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Post by Kanassa » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:14 pm

KinguKurimuzon wrote: Heck, even Fusions has Budokai 2 Tiencha, weird crossover stuff like that happens all the time.
The game that's entire selling point is fusions has a popular fusion within it? How surprising.

Ii'd say nay to getting more existing characters in the roster, give us more NEW characters. I want more wacky time patrollers or time breakers.
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Post by TekTheNinja » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:35 pm

Xenoverse is ABOUT what if scenarios and has failed in making many decent what if characters. I don't see how what ifs "don't fit with xenoverse lore". That's insane.

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Post by Grimlock » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:07 pm

Because there's a limit to those what-ifs, you can't do whatever you want. You can't simply add EX Gohanks in Xenoverse games, but you can add Future Gohanks. It has to feel natural, it has to fit with everything else, with its surrounding. None of EX fusions work in Xenoverse, but the ones logical, the ones that are a truly what-if without being exaggerated, without being out of place, those ones can work, but even that has to be limited, as I said, a Baby Hatchiyack for example would be far-fetched.

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Post by ZeroDio » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:37 pm

Since we are going on the What-if character stuff

I rather get Super Android 18 in a Future Xenoverse Game/DLC then See Super 17(18 absorbed) in a Xenoverse game/DLC

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Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:06 am

I really loved this post from a little over a month ago, as it pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter (minus the strikethrough):
NintendoBlaze53 wrote:Why do people with anime games constantly want character's who are in other games of the series? Personally for a DLC especially I want progression. Not pay $30AUD to get a bunch of characters from Sparking Meteor. The old DB games exist (And most of them play better then XV2). If I buy XV2 it's not gonna be to play as old characters again, it's to play as all the new stuff from Super. All this potential new content it'd be stupid to ignore it for old rehashes. It's why Raging Blast was so cool. Tarble, Neiz, Dore, 14, 15 and Hatchiyack were all new to the games and interesting. Battle of Z gave us Godku, Beerus and Whis. XV1 SSjBlue and Golden Freeza. Now it's only logical for XV2 to go with Super content. What will sell DLC more? Zamasu or Android 13?
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Post by Grimlock » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:14 am

Yeah, buying DLC to get old characters is bullshit. Even though XV2 is giving two per pack, at least they're new, hot characters.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:39 am

Grimlock wrote:Because there's a limit to those what-ifs, you can't do whatever you want. You can't simply add EX Gohanks in Xenoverse games, but you can add Future Gohanks. It has to feel natural, it has to fit with everything else, with its surrounding. None of EX fusions work in Xenoverse, but the ones logical, the ones that are a truly what-if without being exaggerated, without being out of place, those ones can work, but even that has to be limited, as I said, a Baby Hatchiyack for example would be far-fetched.
Yeah, I call absolute bullshit. The entire concept is people fucking with time. Literally ANYTHING could happen, and crazy shit like Baby Hatchiyack SHOULD happen but Xenoverse plays it too damn safe. Do you REALLY enjoy the whole, "Oh no the exact same thing as usual is happening but now the villain has evil purple energy around them" thing? That's boring as fuck. When Xenoverse and Xenoverse 2 were advertised they made it seem like Towa and Mira would seriously fuck up the timeline, but that NEVER happens.

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:32 am

TekTheNinja wrote:Yeah, I call absolute bullshit. The entire concept is people fucking with time. Literally ANYTHING could happen, and crazy shit like Baby Hatchiyack SHOULD happen but Xenoverse plays it too damn safe. Do you REALLY enjoy the whole, "Oh no the exact same thing as usual is happening but now the villain has evil purple energy around them" thing? That's boring as fuck. When Xenoverse and Xenoverse 2 were advertised they made it seem like Towa and Mira would seriously fuck up the timeline, but that NEVER happens.
Well...Towa did erase your XV1 avatar from existence in XV2 for a short amount of time. That has to count for something.

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Post by Kanassa » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:36 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
Grimlock wrote:Because there's a limit to those what-ifs, you can't do whatever you want. You can't simply add EX Gohanks in Xenoverse games, but you can add Future Gohanks. It has to feel natural, it has to fit with everything else, with its surrounding. None of EX fusions work in Xenoverse, but the ones logical, the ones that are a truly what-if without being exaggerated, without being out of place, those ones can work, but even that has to be limited, as I said, a Baby Hatchiyack for example would be far-fetched.
Yeah, I call absolute bullshit. The entire concept is people fucking with time. Literally ANYTHING could happen, and crazy shit like Baby Hatchiyack SHOULD happen but Xenoverse plays it too damn safe. Do you REALLY enjoy the whole, "Oh no the exact same thing as usual is happening but now the villain has evil purple energy around them" thing? That's boring as fuck. When Xenoverse and Xenoverse 2 were advertised they made it seem like Towa and Mira would seriously fuck up the timeline, but that NEVER happens.
Xenoverse 2 had plenty of changes, Nappa going great ape, Ginyu switching with Trunks, Turles and Slug fighting over the Dragonballs and helping out the Ginyu Force,the Metal Coolers entering the Cell games, 16 going after F!Gohan, ect.
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Post by TekTheNinja » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:03 am

BlazingBarrrager wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:Yeah, I call absolute bullshit. The entire concept is people fucking with time. Literally ANYTHING could happen, and crazy shit like Baby Hatchiyack SHOULD happen but Xenoverse plays it too damn safe. Do you REALLY enjoy the whole, "Oh no the exact same thing as usual is happening but now the villain has evil purple energy around them" thing? That's boring as fuck. When Xenoverse and Xenoverse 2 were advertised they made it seem like Towa and Mira would seriously fuck up the timeline, but that NEVER happens.
Well...Towa did erase your XV1 avatar from existence in XV2 for a short amount of time. That has to count for something.
That part was pretty badass, yeah. The story was definitely better than XV1's at least.

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Post by Gog » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:28 am

Kanassa wrote: Xenoverse 2 had plenty of changes, Nappa going great ape, Ginyu switching with Trunks, Turles and Slug fighting over the Dragonballs and helping out the Ginyu Force,the Metal Coolers entering the Cell games, 16 going after F!Gohan, ect.
Xenoverse's 2 changes were laughable, even besides its terrible story. The changes in history, were only minor. Nappa going great ape didn't have any consequences. Ginyu switching with Trunks was hilarious, but their was no consequences. No fucking consequnces, besides proving Trunks is a sue, even in this game. NO FUCKING CONSEQUENCES.

In fact being a Time patroller is the most boring thing ever, as all the interesting stuff, never happens. We never get to see anything interesting, or see anything interesting happening. As we are only shown the most boring scenarios, and even when they have the potential to be interesting we come and fuck it all up.

Honestly the next game should make us into time travelers, traveling around, changing time, and fighting the time patrollers. We get to see the what if scenario's play out, and even protect them from being destroyed

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Post by Kanassa » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:32 am

Gog wrote:No fucking consequnces, besides proving Trunks is a sue, even in this game.
You know, every time I've seen the claim that Trunks is a sue, the people saying so never know what a sue actually is.
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Gog wrote:No fucking consequnces, besides proving Trunks is a sue, even in this game.
You know, every time I've seen the claim that Trunks is a sue, the people saying so never know what a sue actually is.
No, I know what a sue is but I'm just using that word to phrase how I nearly ripped off my testicles and ate them, while systematically tearing out my liver to not focus on the fact that Trunks had just stated that a supremely technologically advanced machine known as the big Geti Star, capable of cloning thousands of meta Coola's stronger than the androids.

Was not very technologically advanced. In fact Trunks is so amazing he was capable of hacking into the Big geti star, even though we never know how. And sending out a signal that would kill all the Coola's in a few minutes. Honestly Xeno Trunk's real hair color must be blue.

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Post by MCDaveG » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:06 am

I still didn't get the gist in this game's gameplay... I can win with my CaC, because he is overpowered, but when I go into versus, I always get my ass handed over with all other characters. Those stamina breaks and stuff are retarded. XV1's gameplay was broken on hit detection, but I had more fun with it.
Yeah, I can't play the game, like at all. I suck at it.
So I am boycotting the DLCs as the game is dead to me and bought remaster of Injustice on PS4 during the wait for sequel rather than this :((
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:35 pm

They will probably save DB and the newest arc in Super for XV3 in 2018. By 2018, the Universal Survival arc will be over and will give them time to add new characters and better gameplay.
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Post by Gog » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:51 pm

MCDaveG wrote:I still didn't get the gist in this game's gameplay... I can win with my CaC, because he is overpowered, but when I go into versus, I always get my ass handed over with all other characters.
The game is all about skill, and for those cheap casual fucks who spam the most Op broken moves. You already know the reason to why your getting your but kicked.
MCDaveG wrote:Those stamina breaks and stuff are retarded. XV1's gameplay was broken on hit detection, but I had more fun with it.
I actually like the stamina break system, its a risk reward type of thing, you either get it and manage to get massive damage, or you don't get it, and take massive damage, what else is retarded? I had more fun with Xenoverse 2, until the slowness arrived.
MCDaveG wrote:Yeah, I can't play the game, like at all. I suck at it.
I can't play it at all as well, I literally cannot play the game. As my game is slower, and even the biggest noob can hand my ass back to me.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:10 pm

Despite the games flaws I'm really looking forward to Champa, I've always liked him more then Beerus and even if they have to make up movies for him I'm cool with it.

Making up moves like they did with Whis is fine, as long as there in keeping with their character.

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Post by Noah » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:52 pm

I wonder how they'll do Vados moveset? She was barely show to do something (fighting) in Super
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